I don't really know what to make of this game. Perhaps it may not live up to it's billing being the first exclusive Saturday night streaming Peacock game. Just put it on channel 3 it's nothing special....
It's a shame that we will get the banged up Dolphins at maybe 60% strength yet at the same time Mahomes and company could goof around with some silly drops and keep this game from being a runaway. There will be enough distractions, and drama as is to keep us glued for almost 60 minutes while seeing Taylor Swift's obnoxious face 20 times. Anyway onto the game...
This match will have a similar premise as the earlier Saturday playoff match. It's a rematch of an earlier regular season game, and we'll have a first time playoff starting QB going against established playoff QB. Only difference here is Tua isn't a rookie and he'll be on the road in the cold confines of Arrowhead stadium an even more daunting task than being at home. There's no need to regurgitate the trend but it'll be an even taller order for the Dolphins than the game in Munich.
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I don't really know what to make of this game. Perhaps it may not live up to it's billing being the first exclusive Saturday night streaming Peacock game. Just put it on channel 3 it's nothing special....
It's a shame that we will get the banged up Dolphins at maybe 60% strength yet at the same time Mahomes and company could goof around with some silly drops and keep this game from being a runaway. There will be enough distractions, and drama as is to keep us glued for almost 60 minutes while seeing Taylor Swift's obnoxious face 20 times. Anyway onto the game...
This match will have a similar premise as the earlier Saturday playoff match. It's a rematch of an earlier regular season game, and we'll have a first time playoff starting QB going against established playoff QB. Only difference here is Tua isn't a rookie and he'll be on the road in the cold confines of Arrowhead stadium an even more daunting task than being at home. There's no need to regurgitate the trend but it'll be an even taller order for the Dolphins than the game in Munich.
Surprised u didn't mention Tyreke Hill returning to KC...
Also a deeper dive into KC....They have beaten noone other than the Dolphins 21-14 in Germany and it was a very close game.... 1-4 vs playoff teams this season...Lots of posts about Maholmes and KC's past history, which they had great SB winning teams.. vs the reality of their current team this season thinking the past will get them a win by default vs the Dolphins.....All the talk is about the Dolphins injuries on defense but the offense will be nearly 100% with Waddle and Monstert... Waddle back is HUGE..
They you have the opening line..Last time they threw out a screw ball line was when the Ravens Beat the 49ers and they opened -3 at home vs the Dolphins with no Waddle and all the marbles on the line for the #1 seed. Now Dolphins off a heart break loss to the Bills and they open the line -3/-3.5 with 7-8 Defensive starters out for the Dolphins....Linemakers have a lot of respect for the Dolphins with that soft line..Fool me once..shame on me..fool me twice shame on you.....Dolphins all day with Waddle playing...Offense will carry them this game...
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Surprised u didn't mention Tyreke Hill returning to KC...
Also a deeper dive into KC....They have beaten noone other than the Dolphins 21-14 in Germany and it was a very close game.... 1-4 vs playoff teams this season...Lots of posts about Maholmes and KC's past history, which they had great SB winning teams.. vs the reality of their current team this season thinking the past will get them a win by default vs the Dolphins.....All the talk is about the Dolphins injuries on defense but the offense will be nearly 100% with Waddle and Monstert... Waddle back is HUGE..
They you have the opening line..Last time they threw out a screw ball line was when the Ravens Beat the 49ers and they opened -3 at home vs the Dolphins with no Waddle and all the marbles on the line for the #1 seed. Now Dolphins off a heart break loss to the Bills and they open the line -3/-3.5 with 7-8 Defensive starters out for the Dolphins....Linemakers have a lot of respect for the Dolphins with that soft line..Fool me once..shame on me..fool me twice shame on you.....Dolphins all day with Waddle playing...Offense will carry them this game...
There is prevalent wisdom since Mahomes came into the league that in order to beat the Chiefs you have to play ball control offense and sustain these drives for as long as possible to keep the Chiefs offense off the field. It was almost impossible to go punch for punch with Mahomes so a team needed to be able to run the ball effectively and play solid defense while praying Mahomes doesn't score and hope to get the ball back again but even if they did all that it still wasn't a guaranteed win.
That was then and this is now. This year's Chiefs offense is a far cry from that 2018 offense or even last year's offense with a lesser-accomplished recieving core. How they were able to put up numbers similar to 2018 last season is beyond me because the offensive roster in 2023-24 is largely the same minus Eric Bienemy, Juju Schuster, and the two starting tackles. That being said, for as potent as the Dolphins are on offense, they will still need to pump the breaks a bit if they are to have a chance. Putting their defense out there too soon could be a hindrance especially considering how beat up they are on the defensive side of the ball. If there is a positive I can say about the Dolphins from 2022 to 2023, it's there willingness to run the ball more this year. Last season they were last in rushing attempts and preferred to outgun their opponent in the passing game with Hill and Waddle. This year they're still airing the ball out but also utilizing the ground game far better with Raheem Mostert and promising rookie back Devon Achane. As a result, this rushing tandem is an effective 5.1 ypc on the ground and have added an extra dimension to their offense. Now Chiefs run defense has usually never been their strongest suit allowing the typical 4.5 ypc under Andy Reid. Mike McDaniels will need to recognize that this is the way to go, in these possibly sub zero temps, but also not leave it up to chance to let Mahomes do his thing despite their struggles on offense. The Chiefs pass defense is far more active and stingier than past KC defenses so the Dolphins will need to be deliberate on when to strike downfield to Hill or Waddle.
On the flipside, Miami Dolphins have shown some noticeable improvement in their defense this season especially in the secondary by getting guys like Jalen Ramsey and Deshon Elliot. However, the main concern now is in their defensive front losing their best pass rusher Bradley Chubb and a few others. Dolphins still got some dogs up front, Zach Sieler has come along nicely for them and Christian Wilkins too will need to bring the heat against Mahomes and the running game against Pacheco. Losing all pro Xavien Howard for this game is another bad hit for this defense which brings me back to my point that the Dolphins defense is still a liability and will need to limit their exposure. Mahomes has cooked Vic Fangio's defenses in the past and there's no telling if we will see the old Mahomes come alive in the playoffs. Also Miami's redzone defense is terrible, why take a chance?
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There is prevalent wisdom since Mahomes came into the league that in order to beat the Chiefs you have to play ball control offense and sustain these drives for as long as possible to keep the Chiefs offense off the field. It was almost impossible to go punch for punch with Mahomes so a team needed to be able to run the ball effectively and play solid defense while praying Mahomes doesn't score and hope to get the ball back again but even if they did all that it still wasn't a guaranteed win.
That was then and this is now. This year's Chiefs offense is a far cry from that 2018 offense or even last year's offense with a lesser-accomplished recieving core. How they were able to put up numbers similar to 2018 last season is beyond me because the offensive roster in 2023-24 is largely the same minus Eric Bienemy, Juju Schuster, and the two starting tackles. That being said, for as potent as the Dolphins are on offense, they will still need to pump the breaks a bit if they are to have a chance. Putting their defense out there too soon could be a hindrance especially considering how beat up they are on the defensive side of the ball. If there is a positive I can say about the Dolphins from 2022 to 2023, it's there willingness to run the ball more this year. Last season they were last in rushing attempts and preferred to outgun their opponent in the passing game with Hill and Waddle. This year they're still airing the ball out but also utilizing the ground game far better with Raheem Mostert and promising rookie back Devon Achane. As a result, this rushing tandem is an effective 5.1 ypc on the ground and have added an extra dimension to their offense. Now Chiefs run defense has usually never been their strongest suit allowing the typical 4.5 ypc under Andy Reid. Mike McDaniels will need to recognize that this is the way to go, in these possibly sub zero temps, but also not leave it up to chance to let Mahomes do his thing despite their struggles on offense. The Chiefs pass defense is far more active and stingier than past KC defenses so the Dolphins will need to be deliberate on when to strike downfield to Hill or Waddle.
On the flipside, Miami Dolphins have shown some noticeable improvement in their defense this season especially in the secondary by getting guys like Jalen Ramsey and Deshon Elliot. However, the main concern now is in their defensive front losing their best pass rusher Bradley Chubb and a few others. Dolphins still got some dogs up front, Zach Sieler has come along nicely for them and Christian Wilkins too will need to bring the heat against Mahomes and the running game against Pacheco. Losing all pro Xavien Howard for this game is another bad hit for this defense which brings me back to my point that the Dolphins defense is still a liability and will need to limit their exposure. Mahomes has cooked Vic Fangio's defenses in the past and there's no telling if we will see the old Mahomes come alive in the playoffs. Also Miami's redzone defense is terrible, why take a chance?
When I think of all the dropped passes and miscues by Mahomes and the Chiefs offense this season, it makes me wonder.. if their recievers had trouble catching balls in ideal conditions then what makes me think they'll have an easy time catching a block of ice? This harkens back to the pre-Mahomes days when Andy Reid's Chiefs would come out flat on offense and go one and done at home. The more I think about it, the more I think the Dolphins have a chance not only to cover but pull an outright upset. Dolphins defense is opportunistic and capable of forcing a few turnovers quite the recipe for pulling an upset on the road. I also think back to last year's playoffs when the Dolphins went up to Buffalo in the frigid temps with Skylar Thompson down 17-0, took the lead for a moment and almost pulled off a comeback win. This has to be on their minds when they play again on Saturday Night. It's just a matter of the Dolphins being able to be consistent for a full 60 minutes against a calibur opponent which they've mostly failed to do all year. If Tua doesn't turn the ball over, then I see this game being close
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When I think of all the dropped passes and miscues by Mahomes and the Chiefs offense this season, it makes me wonder.. if their recievers had trouble catching balls in ideal conditions then what makes me think they'll have an easy time catching a block of ice? This harkens back to the pre-Mahomes days when Andy Reid's Chiefs would come out flat on offense and go one and done at home. The more I think about it, the more I think the Dolphins have a chance not only to cover but pull an outright upset. Dolphins defense is opportunistic and capable of forcing a few turnovers quite the recipe for pulling an upset on the road. I also think back to last year's playoffs when the Dolphins went up to Buffalo in the frigid temps with Skylar Thompson down 17-0, took the lead for a moment and almost pulled off a comeback win. This has to be on their minds when they play again on Saturday Night. It's just a matter of the Dolphins being able to be consistent for a full 60 minutes against a calibur opponent which they've mostly failed to do all year. If Tua doesn't turn the ball over, then I see this game being close
getting all their offensive playmakers back will be huge. but still worried about the dolphins on the defensive side. looks like Deshon Elliot is a DNP again their secondary starting to get thin too but like i said if the Dolphins can come up with a game plan to keep their defense out of harm's way and let their offense be on the field for long periods and dictate the pace they'll be in good shape. I think for one round Dolphins could be the biggest upset winner on wildcard weekend.
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getting all their offensive playmakers back will be huge. but still worried about the dolphins on the defensive side. looks like Deshon Elliot is a DNP again their secondary starting to get thin too but like i said if the Dolphins can come up with a game plan to keep their defense out of harm's way and let their offense be on the field for long periods and dictate the pace they'll be in good shape. I think for one round Dolphins could be the biggest upset winner on wildcard weekend.
Hope Miami wins but nfl needs to knock off having teams from Florida/warm weather teams playing in subzero weather as well west coast teams playing at east coast at 10am pst
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Hope Miami wins but nfl needs to knock off having teams from Florida/warm weather teams playing in subzero weather as well west coast teams playing at east coast at 10am pst
Hope Miami wins but nfl needs to knock off having teams from Florida/warm weather teams playing in subzero weather as well west coast teams playing at east coast at 10am pst
How do you propose they prevent this? Move Miami to Toronto? Construct a 100 yard long radiator to install in Arrowhead field?
Seriously one of the dumbest posts I've seen on here recently.
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Quote Originally Posted by Moose6836:
Hope Miami wins but nfl needs to knock off having teams from Florida/warm weather teams playing in subzero weather as well west coast teams playing at east coast at 10am pst
How do you propose they prevent this? Move Miami to Toronto? Construct a 100 yard long radiator to install in Arrowhead field?
Seriously one of the dumbest posts I've seen on here recently.
It's very easy to overreact to the Phins last game but the fact is the Bills just own them. And KC has been so mediocre I imagine this one will be down to the wire.
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It's very easy to overreact to the Phins last game but the fact is the Bills just own them. And KC has been so mediocre I imagine this one will be down to the wire.
It's very easy to overreact to the Phins last game but the fact is the Bills just own them. And KC has been so mediocre I imagine this one will be down to the wire.
Fins played Bills competitive for most of the game so I know they will be up for this game. They are about evenly matched with the Chiefs. I trust Mike McDaniels will coach smarter to win and respect Mahomes despite his offensive struggles
Just the first time playoff QB angle , warm weather team going into cold, the injuries and the Arrowhead mystique and their struggle beating good teams is whats keeping bettors from being on the dolphins and be on the Chiefs. Can't blame them. No way Mahomes loses at home etc etc.
We might get a lot of upset Swifties after the game they'll probably cry fixed and never watch football again lol that will be the day
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Quote Originally Posted by NutinButtLove:
It's very easy to overreact to the Phins last game but the fact is the Bills just own them. And KC has been so mediocre I imagine this one will be down to the wire.
Fins played Bills competitive for most of the game so I know they will be up for this game. They are about evenly matched with the Chiefs. I trust Mike McDaniels will coach smarter to win and respect Mahomes despite his offensive struggles
Just the first time playoff QB angle , warm weather team going into cold, the injuries and the Arrowhead mystique and their struggle beating good teams is whats keeping bettors from being on the dolphins and be on the Chiefs. Can't blame them. No way Mahomes loses at home etc etc.
We might get a lot of upset Swifties after the game they'll probably cry fixed and never watch football again lol that will be the day
Weather will affect both teams. It will be the coldest game KC has played as well. Chiefs players have never played in this cold temperature as well. You think the chiefs players go home and set their house temperature to -5 degrees? Lol. When was the last game the chiefs played this cold? What is the coldest game the chiefs played this year? A lot of fans will not even go to the game. U think young children and elderly will be in negative degree weather for 3.5 hours? Let alone the average aged human being. At least the players will have warmers on the field and can move around and do mini sprints etc. if u are a fan that has to sit in their seat for that long.. it is brutal. A lot of tickets available. Home field/crowd may not be a factor for the chiefs
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Weather will affect both teams. It will be the coldest game KC has played as well. Chiefs players have never played in this cold temperature as well. You think the chiefs players go home and set their house temperature to -5 degrees? Lol. When was the last game the chiefs played this cold? What is the coldest game the chiefs played this year? A lot of fans will not even go to the game. U think young children and elderly will be in negative degree weather for 3.5 hours? Let alone the average aged human being. At least the players will have warmers on the field and can move around and do mini sprints etc. if u are a fan that has to sit in their seat for that long.. it is brutal. A lot of tickets available. Home field/crowd may not be a factor for the chiefs
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