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Wilson was 9-18 for a 100 yd's and this nuts saying the Saints were dominated 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

Wilson was 9-18 for a 100 yd's and this nuts saying the Saints were dominated 

They were up 16-0, in the rain/wind with the best defense in the last 20 years. Russell Wilson was not needed to make plays.

Actually thinking back the Saints did cover the final number of 9, but it opened at 7.5, which is what I got (which is irrelevant)
 
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i watched the game  Seattle had 13 first downs the whole game and couldn't move the ball, two missed field goals and a fumble and Brees play bad,  after that first half i thought Saints should have had the lead so your domination thing is not correct and the stats that show the Saints moved the ball much better than Seattle is not misleading  but true to what actually took place  

Saints looked like the better team to me  so to say they were dominated is ridiculous  and just because you supposedly got  7.5 you come on and say they didn't cover come on 
 
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Team Stats

 SaintsSeahawks
First downs2513
Rushes-Yards26-10835-174
Passing Yards301103
Sacked-Yards lost1-83-0
Return Yardage4326
Passing24-43-09-18-0
Punts-Average4-38.86-36.7
Fumbles-Lost2-10-0
Penalties-Yards8-746-52
Field Goals0-23-3
Red Zone Efficiency2-2-100%1-2-50%
Goal To Go Efficiency1-1-100%0-1-0%
Time of Possession30 : 3029 : 30

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Saints were down 16-0 at halftime, and Brees had 45 passing yards. In what aspect is that not being dominated.

I didn't '"supposedly" get 7.5, I did because thats what the game opened at. Most people got +8, few got +9

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Quote Originally Posted by SukMyVickNoRomo:

THIS IS A NO BRAINER PEOPLE - Strike 1 

DO NOT OVER THINK THIS GAME - Strike 2

TAKE IT TO THE BANK - STRIKE THREE!!!!! YER OUUUUUUT!!!!!!


Falcons win this game outright - this is the reason why......
 
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Get your money back on the same team.

 

 

TAMPA BAY BUCS  -1 

Did you see the first half of the Bucs/ Bills game in Buffalo ?  when all the starters played ?   Wow, the Buc's defense looked like the 2002 defense. The Bill's offense could not do squat. E.Manuel could not scramble anywhere.  It was 24 -0 at halftime

DT Gerald McCoy reminds me of Warren Sapp, Linebacker Foster, looks like Aaron Brooks, and Barron is a Great Safety.

They are strong on offense too, QB McCown is a veteran 6'5"  

Vincent Jackson is 6'6 inches. . # 1 draft WR Mike Evans ( who made Johnny Manziel look great )  is from Texas AM at 6'6" .... TE Jenkins is 6'6" too.. Lot of size and speed.  And just today they acquired Pro Bowl OG Mankins from the Patriots.

RB Doug Martin is back from injury last year.

Meanwhile, Carolina Panthers is having injury problems. Especially Cam Newton who would was a running threat last year. But now he is not in good shape. He even said that his foot is not totally 100 percent. and add a cracked rib this week.  So he is not going to be running too much in the 4th quarter, like he always does. The reliable Steve Smith is gone.

Tampa opened as a + 2.5 dog, now they are a 1- point favorite for this Division game home opener.

 

A Great Bet  Tampa Bay -1  over Carolina next week before the line goes up any further.

 
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don juan I agree not to mention CAm has fractured ribs which is going to make it tough for him to be effective.
 
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Sorry earth I guess what i should have said the Saints COVERED at Philly with rel. ease, that was really never in Q. and the game outcome was not far behind. The saints pushed around the eagles for the most part as a 439 to 256 total yards showed and the eagles were fortunate to be in a pos. to take the lead late and even after the saints fell behind by 1 or 2 pts. with a few min. left, (still covering) not too many were thinking that brees and company were not going to move 40 yards or so with 4 downs on every drive to do it in, to kick a fg. to win outright, so i slightly backoff on my rel. ease outright win statement, but very little frankly. Saints were full value for that win.

As far as the Sea. game the line was mostly 8 all week with some 7.5s the first day or 2 then about 18 hours before KO went between 9 and 10 so sorry the saints did cover for probably 80 to 90% of the bettors cause any book offshore or in vegas will tell us thats the % of action they get on these games late and the closing line always determines an ats win or loss off.

As far as the game went neither off. did much in the 1st half in terrible playing conditions but Sea. got a TO deep they turned into a td and got 2x3rd down saint Def. pen. to keep drives alive for another 6 pts. so a lot of breaks went their way in the 1st. and in the second the Saints got a few back and out played the Seahawks (when the weather got a little better) much more than the Seahawks outplayed the saints in the 1st half as 409 to 277 total yards would atest to,remembering the saints had about 100 yards total off. at the half.

So again justice was served in both playoff games for the saints last year and i can just imagine if the Saints get to host the Seahawks in the NFC championship game this year in perfect weather conditions. Wow saint nervana.

As i said earlier the Saints are a factor on the road and a juggernaught at home. See ya in ARZ Payton and CO.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

Get your money back on the same team.

 

 

TAMPA BAY BUCS  -1 

Did you see the first half of the Bucs/ Bills game in Buffalo ?  when all the starters played ?   Wow, the Buc's defense looked like the 2002 defense. The Bill's offense could not do squat. E.Manuel could not scramble anywhere.  It was 24 -0 at halftime

DT Gerald McCoy reminds me of Warren Sapp, Linebacker Foster, looks like Aaron Brooks, and Barron is a Great Safety.

They are strong on offense too, QB McCown is a veteran 6'5"  

Vincent Jackson is 6'6 inches. . # 1 draft WR Mike Evans ( who made Johnny Manziel look great )  is from Texas AM at 6'6" .... TE Jenkins is 6'6" too.. Lot of size and speed.  And just today they acquired Pro Bowl OG Mankins from the Patriots.

RB Doug Martin is back from injury last year.

Meanwhile, Carolina Panthers is having injury problems. Especially Cam Newton who would was a running threat last year. But now he is not in good shape. He even said that his foot is not totally 100 percent. and add a cracked rib this week.  So he is not going to be running too much in the 4th quarter, like he always does. The reliable Steve Smith is gone.

Tampa opened as a + 2.5 dog, now they are a 1- point favorite for this Division game home opener.

 

A Great Bet  Tampa Bay -1  over Carolina next week before the line goes up any further.

Love it....my second best bet behind the Broncos.

A hammer shot TB 27-10

GL

 
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Sorry earth I guess what i should have said the Saints COVERED at Philly with rel. ease, that was really never in Q. and the game outcome was not far behind. The saints pushed around the eagles for the most part as a 439 to 256 total yards showed and the eagles were fortunate to be in a pos. to take the lead late and even after the saints fell behind by 1 or 2 pts. with a few min. left, (still covering) not too many were thinking that brees and company were not going to move 40 yards or so with 4 downs on every drive to do it in, to kick a fg. to win outright, so i slightly backoff on my rel. ease outright win statement, but very little frankly. Saints were full value for that win.

As far as the Sea. game the line was mostly 8 all week with some 7.5s the first day or 2 then about 18 hours before KO went between 9 and 10 so sorry the saints did cover for probably 80 to 90% of the bettors cause any book offshore or in vegas will tell us thats the % of action they get on these games late and the closing line always determines an ats win or loss off.

As far as the game went neither off. did much in the 1st half in terrible playing conditions but Sea. got a TO deep they turned into a td and got 2x3rd down saint Def. pen. to keep drives alive for another 6 pts. so a lot of breaks went their way in the 1st. and in the second the Saints got a few back and out played the Seahawks (when the weather got a little better) much more than the Seahawks outplayed the saints in the 1st half as 409 to 277 total yards would atest to,remembering the saints had about 100 yards total off. at the half.

So again justice was served in both playoff games for the saints last year and i can just imagine if the Saints get to host the Seahawks in the NFC championship game this year in perfect weather conditions. Wow saint nervana.

As i said earlier the Saints are a factor on the road and a juggernaught at home. See ya in ARZ Payton and CO.



For the record, I think the Saints are going to have a monster year, and would not surprise me if they go to/win the superbowl. They absolutely need to avoid playing the Seahawks on the road in the playoffs though. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

Get your money back on the same team.

 

 

TAMPA BAY BUCS  -1 

Did you see the first half of the Bucs/ Bills game in Buffalo ? 

 when all the starters played ?   Wow, the Buc's defense looked like the 2002 defense. The Bill's offense could not do squat. E.Manuel could not scramble anywhere.  It was 24 -0 at halftime

DT Gerald McCoy reminds me of Warren Sapp, Linebacker Foster, looks like Aaron Brooks, and Barron is a Great Safety.

They are strong on offense too, QB McCown is a veteran 6'5"  

Vincent Jackson is 6'6 inches. . # 1 draft WR Mike Evans ( who made Johnny Manziel look great )  is from Texas AM at 6'6" .... TE Jenkins is 6'6" too.. Lot of size and speed.  And just today they acquired Pro Bowl OG Mankins from the Patriots.

RB Doug Martin is back from injury last year.

Meanwhile, Carolina Panthers is having injury problems. Especially Cam Newton who would was a running threat last year. But now he is not in good shape. He even said that his foot is not totally 100 percent. and add a cracked rib this week.  So he is not going to be running too much in the 4th quarter, like he always does. The reliable Steve Smith is gone.

Tampa opened as a + 2.5 dog, now they are a 1- point favorite for this Division game home opener.

 

A Great Bet  Tampa Bay -1  over Carolina next week before the line goes up any further.


Yet thus time last year when I took the bucs -2.5 everyone called me crazzy.... NOPE NO SIR! not again I will not lose all my winnings on the same damn team not again... 
 
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Saints are terrible on the Road
 
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Saints are terrible on the Road

they didn't stink last year they were 3-5  controled the whole game at New England really should have won that game and that's out doors,  who else played tough on the road  vs Seattle ? they looked good to me shuting down Seattle offense in that divisional playoff game . letting up just 274 and 13 first downs , if all the breaks don't go against them two missed field goals and a fumble while moving the ball ,they had 25 first downs and over 400 yd's of offense who does that at Seattle?

 Your also  forgetting Atlanta is a dome,  what the Saints do well in   and New Orleans has won 5 out of the last 6 games SU vs the Falcons so that goes back to when Atlanta was actually good .
 
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,they had 25 first downs and over 400 yd's of offense who does that at Seattle?

 

Seahawks played the Saints twice last year. Through the first 7 quarters, the Saints had a total of 300 yards of offense, and 7 points.

Not sure why you are trying to get off on pushing the point they played so well in Seattle last year. They didn't.

They had one solid drive all game that resulted in a TD...Their second TD was a garbage time TD because the Saints got the ball down 23-8 with 2:40 left.
 
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Seahawks played the Saints twice last year. Through the first 7 quarters, the Saints had a total of 300 yards of offense, and 7 points.

Not sure why you are trying to get off on pushing the point they played so well in Seattle last year. They didn't.

They had one solid drive all game that resulted in a TD...Their second TD was a garbage time TD because the Saints got the ball down 23-8 with 2:40 left.
 
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Regardless of all you say the Saints played very well in that divisional playoff game good enough to win the score don't tell the story . 

But the bottom line  is we are talking about them playing Atlanta and they have beaten  Atlanta 5 out of the last 6 times will be playing in a dome against a team they have  had much suscess against and the poster has a winner ,

 forget the public crap the line was like it was cause brees was yet to appear healthy now that he has,  the line movement 

Why shouldn't they be favored over a 4 win Atlanta team that they handle easy Atlanta will have another horrible year and Mike Smith will be fired 
 
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Damn, you have your outfit picked out 2 weeks in advance?.. You sir, are on point.

As for the game, I think it will be close because the Falcons offense is very solid, their defense is garbage so I lean the over 51.5...Feels like a 30-27 type game for the Saints.

cant even begin to side on a team that only won 4 the year prior and losing tony... Saints D is only getting stronger with Ryan there... I love this match up breez is going to light that building on FIRE come Sunday.... 
 
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Yet thus time last year when I took the bucs -2.5 everyone called me crazzy.... NOPE NO SIR! not again I will not lose all my winnings on the same damn team not again... 

 

OKAY, I can understand that you don't want the same team, TB again.. But why in the world would you take another team on the road for the second straight year ?

When clearly, the records show that the Saints have only 6 wins AND 10 loses on the road, over the last two years ?

Meanwhile, the Falcons have 10 WINS and only 6 LOSES at Home over the last 2 year !

Seems to me that there are better teams to choose from.

But Good luck to you, I'll be pulling for you, but I don't like your chances.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

 

OKAY, I can understand that you don't want the same team, TB again.. But why in the world would you take another team on the road for the second straight year ?

When clearly, the records show that the Saints have only 6 wins AND 10 loses on the road, over the last two years ?

Meanwhile, the Falcons have 10 WINS and only 6 LOSES at Home over the last 2 year !

Seems to me that there are better teams to choose from.

But Good luck to you, I'll be pulling for you, but I don't like your chances.



Atlanta was 3-5 SU at home last year and won 4 games all year their a horrible team now , why would you go back two years 
 
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Because injuries make a huge difference, so it's smarter to average it out !  WR Julio Jones was injured much of last year, which was a tremendous difference.

When Atlanta play finally got to play their Division HOME games against Carolina and New Orleans, their # 1 receiver was out for the year.

Furthermore, Brees is not 100% healthy, and may I remind you, New Orleans is only 3-5 on the road last year.   And 3-5 on the road the previous year !

I'm just saying his HUGE bet is too risky taking a road team, again !

 
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:

Because injuries make a huge difference, so it's smarter to average it out !  WR Julio Jones was injured much of last year, which was a tremendous difference.

When Atlanta play finally got to play their Division HOME games against Carolina and New Orleans, their # 1 receiver was out for the year.

Furthermore, Brees is not 100% healthy, and may I remind you, New Orleans is only 3-5 on the road last year.   And 3-5 on the road the previous year !

I'm just saying his HUGE bet is too risky taking a road team, again !



Although i see your point and from going back at last years week 1 opener only 7 teams on the road won ther games... that being said This line is too low and even tho Julio is back the fact the saints are coming in town with what they have to prove from last year with  a better D... and offence still intact -2 is a great pick and If ther is one game i could bet to get my 4 gs i lost on tampa last year its this game... not one other better game out ther to pick.. just plain simple..
 
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Although i see your point and from going back at last years week 1 opener only 7 teams on the road won ther games... that being said This line is too low and even tho Julio is back the fact the saints are coming in town with what they have to prove from last year with  a better D... and offence still intact -2 is a great pick and If ther is one game i could bet to get my 4 gs i lost on tampa last year its this game... not one other better game out ther to pick.. just plain simple..

 

Okay, I wish you luck.  Now remember, I'm not saying Atlanta will win.  I'm saying there are better choices. Because this game is coming down to the wire. 

 

 I like the Tampa Bay Bucs  game better !

 
 
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Saints were 3-5 on the road last 2 years

but

2 years ago no head coach Payton and bounty gate.....season mailed in somewhat

Last year should have been 5-3 and were more than fine on the road in the playoffs

Like you though said and i agree, there are better games out there like TB agreed and for me Den, but i still put this one at # 3 or 4

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