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Quote Originally Posted by able:

Yeah newmarket, best part was when the camera was on Ben, he seemed pissed that his team was scoring a TD then when he realized the camera was on him he was all smiles.

You saw that game too didn't you.. I play second half but ended up pushing.. But that was mind blowing.. Even Bob Costas after the game was like WTF!!! 
 
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Anyone watch the Western Kentucky game that just finished.. I want to hear comments on that.. just a simple melt down?

Up 35 in the 4th quarter then win by 1 on a missed 2 pt convert after an 80 yard pass and 3 laterals with 1 second left.. 

Yup just coincidence..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by moneyfloyd:

This argument reminds me of the back in the day when a small group of people claimed online poker was rigged in the sense there were people cheating.  Through multi accounting and super users.  They were laughed at for years and pegged as bad players who were just complaining.  Funny when the truth finally became uncovered for all to see.  

It's pretty simple, whenever a lot of money is involved, don't think for a second the man isn't making damn sure he is getting his.  

Remember Tim Dohgnahy?
The same idiots, morons, slugs and sheep, swore for years the NBA wasnt fixed, then came our vindication and proof in a form of a referree with a gambling issue.
LOL
Still to this day, I laugh my A$$ Off

 
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It's interesting to see how some people keep using the same "examples" for their theory. If "fixes" are as widely spread as they describe, shouldn't there be more cases being revealed through the years, particularly in the NFL? Sure, there are proven cases of point-shaving but they aren't NEARLY as common as some people suggest. It simply defies logic that a few would surface but not more would.

Take SD State last night, that's probably as iffy as it gets, but if I were the coach that was "in", I would be damn sure not to put myself in that position that the whole world could see. Isn't the key to any conspiracy is to remain as un-noticeable as possible?

There might be some validity to their point, but for one reasonable person with the theory out there, there are at least thousands of them crying "fix" on every single call, like a 7-foot center making a last second shot in mid-court to cover the spread.

This is the most common conservation:

A(Fixer): This game is fixed, there is no way this isn't and I KNEW it for a long time. This is garbage...

B: So why didn't you bet on the "right" side then?

A: I don't know which way Vegas is going beforehand and now I do.

B: Thought you knew they were fixing the games and you could "think outside the box". Well, it's rather pointless at this point.....

 

 

 
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A couple things come to mind with this discussion... 

Those of you who don't or can't believe that there might be something happening behind the scenes that may affect the outcome of the contest are like the Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz, when exposed by Toto, demanding "Pay no attention to the Man Behind the Curtain!"

Those of us who know that there can be something happening behind the scenes are like the Rodney Dangerfield character Al Czervik in Caddyshack slipping a few bills to Lou while saying "Keep it fair, keep it fair."

Merry Christmas fellow degenerates.

 
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One other important item of note, in the above Caddyshack example, Lou kept the money.  We presume he kept it fair.
 
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I find it funny, and sad in a way, that people who think games are fixed continue to bet games... 

Anyone claiming games are fixed, particularly in the NFL, say dumb things like "the man behind the curtain"... Ominous and entertaining, but ignorant and uneducated. 

Can anyone provide real evidence that an NFL game has been fixed...?

And just because you're a perennial degenerate loser, doesn't mean game are fixed....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GordoPockets:

I find it funny, and sad in a way, that people who think games are fixed continue to bet games... 

Anyone claiming games are fixed, particularly in the NFL, say dumb things like "the man behind the curtain"... Ominous and entertaining, but ignorant and uneducated. 

Can anyone provide real evidence that an NFL game has been fixed...?

No, You provide proof its on the up and up.
Enough has been said going back to the late 70s proving something isnt right.
I think we have provided you ignorant sheep with enough proof that you gawk at.
Your turn stumpy

And just because you're a perennial degenerate loser, doesn't mean game are fixed....
 
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The NFL has been around for quite a while now.  Thousands of players, coaches, refs etc..... Have been involved. 

1. Can anyone name someone who has come out and said they fixed a game?  
2.  If your answer is no then how do you explain thousands of people keeping a secret?  The odds are astronomical.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

The NFL has been around for quite a while now.  Thousands of players, coaches, refs etc..... Have been involved. 

1. Can anyone name someone who has come out and said they fixed a game?  
2.  If your answer is no then how do you explain thousands of people keeping a secret?  The odds are astronomical.


frontline reporter Jessica Savage reported a special NFL and the MOB 
Her car was found in a ditch, She was murdered.

Investigative reporter 
Daniel E. Moldea wrote one of the best books i have ever read in my entire life
INTERFERENCE "How Organized crime influences Professional Football"
then there was the so called mob bust where NFL Officials were sitting down with mobsters when the cops busted in, quietly swept under the rug ofcourse.
NBA we had the the NBA would lead you to believe was one rogue official
If Joey Crawford, Bennet Salvatore and Ron Garratson arent fixing games then Iv seen nothing in my 41 years of life.
I am supposed to believe like a blind sheep it was just Tim Donaghay?

countless youtube videos detailing missed calls that affect the point spreads and this is coincidence?

Why is the NFL, NBA, and MLB opperating under an entertainment licence?
You know that gives them the right to fix games as they see fit right?
What ? whats was that, You dont believe it?
Its all in Brian Tuohy's website www.thefixisin.net
See, operating under that licence means they only need to provide you with a game, like wrestling it can be scripted and lawsuits would be thrown out of court.

I waste my time with you sheep only when one of you idiots and make no mistake, from where I sit you are utter morons, i am compelled to come here anddo this when one of you disingenuous dumbasses call us WHO BELIEVE its fixed out.
Who the f*** do you think you are?
You yuppie sheltered still sucking on your mamas nipple nimrods.
You provide nothing of value whatsoever to the discussion only stupid remarks.
Pull your GodDanm heads out your a$$es for a change, I sure cant do it for you. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by moneyfloyd:

This argument reminds me of the back in the day when a small group of people claimed online poker was rigged in the sense there were people cheating.  Through multi accounting and super users.  They were laughed at for years and pegged as bad players who were just complaining.  Funny when the truth finally became uncovered for all to see.  

It's pretty simple, whenever a lot of money is involved, don't think for a second the man isn't making damn sure he is getting his.  

ya like u and I played in fixed games online

it affected 0.0000003 % of the poker community

get real

 
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Doesnt matter if it affected 0.000000000000000001%
It still happened, end of story
 
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I guarantee you within any billion dollar industry there is at least some form of corruption going on at some level.

And no i don't think it's all fixed, but some games make you shake your head no doubt.
 
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Mafioso, you want me to prove that it's on the up and up? That logic is insane!!!

That's like saying prove to me that you are innocent of every crime possible.... Is that how it works now? Guilty and sentenced with you can prove your innocents?

You are a compete idiot. You have no understanding of what it would take to fix a game. The amount of people and money involved are extremely high. 

The most insane thing you have said is that leagues have the right to fix games. That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You are so dumb it's amazing. Fixing games is a federal crime you moron... 

If leagues started fixing games they would go to jail. 

Believe what you want though. I don't know why you would bet if you think it's fixed.... Or even be interested at all in something that's fixed. Some people have zero common sense....
 
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I can't match socks ??
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GordoPockets:

Mafioso, you want me to prove that it's on the up and up? That logic is insane!!!

That's like saying prove to me that you are innocent of every crime possible.... Is that how it works now? Guilty and sentenced with you can prove your innocents?

You are a compete idiot. You have no understanding of what it would take to fix a game. The amount of people and money involved are extremely high. 

The most insane thing you have said is that leagues have the right to fix games. That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You are so dumb it's amazing. Fixing games is a federal crime you moron... 

If leagues started fixing games they would go to jail. 

Believe what you want though. I don't know why you would bet if you think it's fixed.... Or even be interested at all in something that's fixed. Some people have zero common sense....

Firstly dummy, I described that these leagues are under an entertainment licence didnt I? 
that removes the federal crime angle now doesnt it Genius?

Secondly, You sheep as I also described after the Tim Donaghay situation do not have a leg to stand on when you claim we are idiots when we claim its fixed, so sit in the corner and shut the F**** up until I tell you to come out of there.

thirdly,its a billion dollar a year industry, if you ran a billion dollar company, "With your lack of thinking skills you couldnt run a lemonade stand"  but for amusements sake if you did run a billion dollar company with sponsors spending billions per year, Would you leave it to chance to a have superbowls like the Browns vs Panthers or would you ensure premium matchups?

I have owned and run businesses, successful ones at that for the last 21 years, I know a thing or 2.

What have you accomplished sheep?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GordoPockets:

This is a ranting message to anyone that thinks games are fixed...

I'm not sure whether these people actually believe games are fixed or they are just bitter that they can't pick any winners. First of all,
virtually all of this "fixed game" nonsense is posted by people that are claiming the game they just bet was fixed. They then move on to their next bet... Try to follow that logic.

Some people who believe games are fixed continue to bet games. Why? Some people continue to bet because they have a problem, for which those people I feel bad for. Some continue betting using paradoxical logic for which I will never understand and simply complain when they lose, these are the most childish and annoying. I've even heard people saying that they know games are fixed but continue to bet because they think they can pick the correct "fixed" side, that is just arrogance.

People that believe this are a joke... Go ahead and keep betting "fixed games" if you wish. Just don't cry that games are fixed when you lose, because in reality you are just terrible handicappers. 

 The fact is, they're just degenerate gamblers that needs to bet regardless of what they think they know. If you're getting that emotional to claim games are fixed, you clearly don't have the money to be betting. 

I'm all for adding insight and perspective but crying "fix" is amateurish... Let the adults bet for now and come back when you can handle what you're getting into. 

I would seriously recommend picking games without actually betting them and see how you do. You may find it more enjoyable or just come to the realization that you are not good at this. 

There are lots of things I can't do, like skateboard, draw pictures, speak other languages, or match clothes very well. But I'm aware of that, so I don't do those things. Maybe betting sports is something that you can't do. You're good at complaining, so you have that going for you.

For all of you claiming that games are fixed, I sincerely hope you take this advice and I wish you good luck in your soul searching experience. 

For me, I must get back to doing grown up things.

Sincerely,
GordoPockets


Are you really serious with this post?
Or maybe this is what you know how to do, write forum posts that make no sense

How in hell will you say "some" games are not fixed
I think you the one who is the amateur..if you bet not considering a game can be fixed..then am sure you have lost than you have won

Also in this world we live..everything is fixed to certain degrees.
I mean is this post a joke?
 
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Firstly dummy, I described that these leagues are under an entertainment licence didnt I? 
that removes the federal crime angle now doesnt it Genius?

Secondly, You sheep as I also described after the Tim Donaghay situation do not have a leg to stand on when you claim we are idiots when we claim its fixed, so sit in the corner and shut the F**** up until I tell you to come out of there.

thirdly,its a billion dollar a year industry, if you ran a billion dollar company, "With your lack of thinking skills you couldnt run a lemonade stand"  but for amusements sake if you did run a billion dollar company with sponsors spending billions per year, Would you leave it to chance to a have superbowls like the Browns vs Panthers or would you ensure premium matchups?

I have owned and run businesses, successful ones at that for the last 21 years, I know a thing or 2.

What have you accomplished sheep?

Tim Donaghey, the only person in the last 30 years to do any manipulating. And that's not the NFL. 

And just because you can read an article in the internet about a clause doesn't mean you are right. Any gain the leagues made by fixing games would fall under a conspiracy to profit from fixing games. This would include the media and sponsoring contracts. So you are wrong. 

So games are fixed because the best teams go to the Super Bowl?

As for what I have accomplished... I own a business as well. 
 
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So you offer nothing more than your opinion?
If it happened in the nba it is ludicrous or blind to think it hasn't happened to the other leagues.
You should read Dan moldeas book, very eye opening.
Think we're done here.
Believe what you wish, and I will continue to profit on my method.
But call people who believe what I do out again, and we will have another go at it.

 
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 IT'S ONLY FIXED WHEN YOU LOSE
 
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Maybe when you lose buddy.
It's fixed regardless
 
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Maybe when you lose buddy.
It's fixed regardless
 
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NFL games are very  easy to manipulate. If a ref needs to slow down an offence,he throws a holding flag. Holding happens on every play in the NFL, so no one would ever question a holding flag 

 
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you guys leave the dummy alone
as he said this is what he is best for...make stupid forum posts
 
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by GordoPockets]

Tim Donaghey, the only person in the last 30 years to do any manipulating. And that's not the NFL. 

You know Gordo, when you make statements of fact, and don't want to appear stupid, you should have your facts straight.  Tim Donaghy manipulated absolutely nothing.  He knew how his fellow refs would call the game they were assigned to work, based solely on their individual like or dislike for the players.  He then bet this "inside" information and transmitted it to others for wagering purposes.  Again, he manipulated NOTHING.
 
Finally, as others have said, there is simply too much money sloshing around the system for there not to be a little (or in some cases quite a lot) siphoned off.  You can do what you want with your money, I presume you are a big boy, but when I get down, I use all the information I can get. 
 
Look at the recent scams in the stock markets and subprime loan markets.  There is similar chicanery in the NFL.  I promise you.
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