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Giants -3 over Jaguars. I don't care how square you think that pick is.There is good reason 2takeit.

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Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

  Love these morons who keep saying, "the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road.
Another idiot who doesn't know the meaning of the word value - I would love to hear your definition!
   'the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance, worth, or usefulness of something.'   as in, "The Giants have no value as a road favorite."
 
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this thread should be bumped every sunday in the fall until the end of time, case study in how NOT to handicap

A) Giants had zero mathematical value as a 3 win team favored on the road.

B)  The game was meaningless anyway and subject to high variance, i.e. a coin flip of a game with a coinflip line.

C) It was a late season game between two teams eliminated from the playoffs with 4 weeks to go, one of the only times in the NFL you need to decipher the motivations of the teams (almost always a no play for me.

D) The motivation angle was read completely wrong. Giants obviously threw the game.

E) Betting with your heart and not your head. If you can't be unbiased with your favorite team, lay off their games

F) putting all your eggs in one basket, playing only one game on an entire card means you haven't handicapped a thing, handicap them all and find your value imo. If you can't find enough games on the card to smooth your variance then perhaps you need a new hobby
 
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G) Ignoring the RLM angle.

I normally hate this angle as a sole basis for your selections but everyone who's handicapped for long enough respects it. The house has professionals with more inside information than the public, so reading the set line is sometimes a good angle (not as good as it used to be but I digress).

H) Insisting you were right when you were clearly wrong. Giants were NOT the right play. The only value in the game was Jax, Jax ML, Jax over and nothing else and the value was tiny anyway and probably didn't cover juice. If you don't acknowledge that you can't get better, it's a learning curve

too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar
 
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"too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar"
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All you guys slamming him are doing it after the game's over.  A game where the Giants had the game well in hand and lost it.  It could have gone either way.

That pretty much sums up what you comics are saying.  Why don't you move on and bully someone else already.  You obviously hurt the guy-congrats.
 
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not all of us were. reread the whole thread. oh a oakland fan, no pics, so just trust me, not all of us did.
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nobody wants to read this thread any more it's a mess.  I don't want to hear any more of this bs.

You might have scared him away.  Like it or not, he provided analysis for me to take or not, which I appreciated, and you're just providing after-the-game horse8*(*, on a pick'em game, spread-wise.

He's probably gone-congrats-now I can read your bull**** analysis on the Vikes, which amounts to 0 analysis.  I could have picked up that analysis on the bathroom floor.
 
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Go out get some fresh air and take a breath, and recognize a *les are born every day.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

nobody wants to read this thread any more it's a mess.  I don't want to hear any more of this bs.

You might have scared him away.  Like it or not, he provided analysis for me to take or not, which I appreciated, and you're just providing after-the-game horse8*(*, on a pick'em game, spread-wise.

He's probably gone-congrats-now I can read your bull**** analysis on the Vikes, which amounts to 0 analysis.  I could have picked up that analysis on the bathroom floor.

The devil himself could hold me over the burning coals of Hades before I let these p ricks 'scare me away'.




And Urz, you REALLY don't know how to cap a game, especially one with the competitors being of inferior quality.

Do you really think Giants Titans next week can't be capped and shouldn't be bet on because the two teams are so lousy? That's beyond misguided if not at the level of threatening your identity as a capper (you can cap, you're just terrible at it given your statements above).


I just printed out post 282 and 283 and wiped my as s with it. At least it served a purpose.
 
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Posted: #285
Quote Originally Posted by Julespussy:

  Love these morons who keep saying, "the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road.
Another idiot who doesn't know the meaning of the word value - I would love to hear your definition!

how much you lose this week?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

"the Giants had value".  No, they did not have value.  If they are favored on the road they do not have value.  They are 3-9, a very bad football team. Doesn't matter if they are playing Jax or Oakland or any other team.  They can't have "value" if they're favorite on road."

^^^^ this is true, same as miami last night, a decent rd tm laying 7 on mnf is insane. no value...plenty on jets.!   hm tm, cold, mnf etcetc whole world on miami..gd lk, 

the fact that you correlate the miami/jets and gmen/jags games tells me you lose alot more then you win, both ny teams were the correct side
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bonchie123:


And you'd lose more then 50% of the time. 

The right side was the Jags. They covered. 

That line stayed at -2.5 even as everyone and their mother bet the Giants. That should of tipped anyone off to go Jags or no play. The Giants were nowhere near the "right side." They were a road favorite with only three wins.

giants were the obvious right side...its not up for debate...the fact that you think the end result justifies the jags being the correct side makes me wish i was your bookie
 
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Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

this thread should be bumped every sunday in the fall until the end of time, case study in how NOT to handicap

A) Giants had zero mathematical value as a 3 win team favored on the road.

B)  The game was meaningless anyway and subject to high variance, i.e. a coin flip of a game with a coinflip line.

C) It was a late season game between two teams eliminated from the playoffs with 4 weeks to go, one of the only times in the NFL you need to decipher the motivations of the teams (almost always a no play for me.

D) The motivation angle was read completely wrong. Giants obviously threw the game.

E) Betting with your heart and not your head. If you can't be unbiased with your favorite team, lay off their games

F) putting all your eggs in one basket, playing only one game on an entire card means you haven't handicapped a thing, handicap them all and find your value imo. If you can't find enough games on the card to smooth your variance then perhaps you need a new hobby
 
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Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

G) Ignoring the RLM angle.

I normally hate this angle as a sole basis for your selections but everyone who's handicapped for long enough respects it. The house has professionals with more inside information than the public, so reading the set line is sometimes a good angle (not as good as it used to be but I digress).

H) Insisting you were right when you were clearly wrong. Giants were NOT the right play. The only value in the game was Jax, Jax ML, Jax over and nothing else and the value was tiny anyway and probably didn't cover juice. If you don't acknowledge that you can't get better, it's a learning curve

too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar
 
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Quote Originally Posted by URZ262:

G) Ignoring the RLM angle.

I normally hate this angle as a sole basis for your selections but everyone who's handicapped for long enough respects it. The house has professionals with more inside information than the public, so reading the set line is sometimes a good angle (not as good as it used to be but I digress).

H) Insisting you were right when you were clearly wrong. Giants were NOT the right play. The only value in the game was Jax, Jax ML, Jax over and nothing else and the value was tiny anyway and probably didn't cover juice. If you don't acknowledge that you can't get better, it's a learning curve

too bad I can't write like scal tho, beautiful prose and good grammar
  You may not be able to write like him, but you make way more sense than him Urizzi. Be looking forward to your selections this weekend.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

nobody wants to read this thread any more it's a mess.  I don't want to hear any more of this bs.

You might have scared him away.  Like it or not, he provided analysis for me to take or not, which I appreciated, and you're just providing after-the-game horse8*(*, on a pick'em game, spread-wise.

He's probably gone-congrats-now I can read your bull**** analysis on the Vikes, which amounts to 0 analysis.  I could have picked up that analysis on the bathroom floor.
  "You might have scared him away."  Are you f*cking serious??!!  He couldn't live without this attention!
 
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Very true,  i think if we looked closer,  now lets get ready for the next turgid game analysis that we can fade,  scal is 3-6 right now
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


The devil himself could hold me over the burning coals of Hades before I let these p ricks 'scare me away'.


Alrite good to hear.  Always enjoy your analysis to go w/the picks and don't want to miss out

Do me a favor win the next few games you'll have your own legion of followers both good and bad going crazy
 
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Posted: #294
Good luck tonight guys

UCF +7.5   bought hook

BEARS +4.5  bought hook

UNDER 52  Bears
 
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Posted: #295
I hear that both the Jets and the Giants never lay down...they never give up. 
 
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Heres one of the greatest hits
 
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You're still here...good lord...

 

Again, tell he forum in one coherent paragraph why the Jags were the right side beyond, "They won didn't they?".

 
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heres a classic
 
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Man get over it.  
 
 
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Yes yes. If you had Jax in this game, boy did you cap a great one....spot on that they wouldn't show up and have nothing to play for.

Keep bumping this one. It's an indictment against you and understanding the depth of a play and write-up. 
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