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    goff is tom brady

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 12:20 PM ET #1

    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat peace_5

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    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 12:22 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 12:24 PM ET #3

    the year before brady went to the bucs he was mr. pick 6

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    the year before brady went to the bucs he was mr. pick 6

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 12:25 PM ET #4

    brady didn't win a sb with randy moss 

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 12:26 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by theMatrix24:

    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat

    Well perhaps Jared Goff isn't Tom Brady, but Brady has high remark on Goff and the Lions. Brady ranks Detroit #2 in the NFL power rankings. 

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    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat

    Well perhaps Jared Goff isn't Tom Brady, but Brady has high remark on Goff and the Lions. Brady ranks Detroit #2 in the NFL power rankings. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 1:06 PM ET #6

    He really isn't.

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    Posted: Jan. 3, 2025 - 3:03 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by theMatrix24:

    brady didn't win a sb with randy moss

     

    Goff hasn't win one with anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theMatrix24:

    brady didn't win a sb with randy moss

     

    Goff hasn't win one with anyone.

     
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    More like a donkey when he loses to the Vikings on Sunday! an_roll_laugh

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    More like a donkey when he loses to the Vikings on Sunday! an_roll_laugh

     
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    You could say Goff is better than Brady on balls thrown 20 yards in the air or longer. not even debatable Brady was always 0 -10 yards horizontal Tom. 

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    You could say Goff is better than Brady on balls thrown 20 yards in the air or longer. not even debatable Brady was always 0 -10 yards horizontal Tom. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by theMatrix24:

    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat

    Horrible take. You make it sound like he was awful with Sean McVay and the Rams. 

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    what you guys are seeing from goff is pretty much tom brady's career. the right situation makes you look like the goat

    Horrible take. You make it sound like he was awful with Sean McVay and the Rams. 

     
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    Goff has 61 completions of 20 yards or more which is amazing. Darnold has thrown 62 completions of 20 yards or more this year too. The Detroit D has given up over 50 pass completions of 20 yards or more this year. That doesn't bode well for this game does it? 

    Here is a Jon Gruden analysis of the big game that I found enlightening: 

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    Goff has 61 completions of 20 yards or more which is amazing. Darnold has thrown 62 completions of 20 yards or more this year too. The Detroit D has given up over 50 pass completions of 20 yards or more this year. That doesn't bode well for this game does it? 

    Here is a Jon Gruden analysis of the big game that I found enlightening: 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverstones:

    You could say Goff is better than Brady on balls thrown 20 yards in the air or longer. not even debatable Brady was always 0 -10 yards horizontal Tom.

    You could make that argument.  But, you would simply be wrong.

    Last several years of throws of 20 yards or more:

     

    Goff ratings:  86.3, 105, 55.3, 71.5, 96.1, 100.1, 93.8, 109.4

    Median: 89.68

    Brady ratings:  95.8, 119.3, 77.1, 89.7, 104.3, 98.8, 94.2, 94.8

    Median:  96.75

     

    Goff WAR:  .6, .6, 0, 0, .1, .2, .4, .3 

    Median:  .275

    Brady WAR:  0, .7, .9, .3, .5, .7, .6, .4 

    Median:  .513

     

    Goff PE/Play:  .391, .367, .045, .038, .153, .165, .363, .301

    Median:  .228

    Brady PE/Play:  .461, .389, .188, .287, .329, .298, .249

    Median .298

     

    Goff is even know as somewhat of a good long-ball thrower and Brady is not.

    But it is simply incorrect.  Brady was just better and more efficient, period.  No matter what the situation.

    People simply believe this because they want to and enough anti-Brady folks keep repeating it enough that it almost seems true.

    Until you actually watch the games or examine the underlying numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverstones:

    You could say Goff is better than Brady on balls thrown 20 yards in the air or longer. not even debatable Brady was always 0 -10 yards horizontal Tom.

    You could make that argument.  But, you would simply be wrong.

    Last several years of throws of 20 yards or more:

     

    Goff ratings:  86.3, 105, 55.3, 71.5, 96.1, 100.1, 93.8, 109.4

    Median: 89.68

    Brady ratings:  95.8, 119.3, 77.1, 89.7, 104.3, 98.8, 94.2, 94.8

    Median:  96.75

     

    Goff WAR:  .6, .6, 0, 0, .1, .2, .4, .3 

    Median:  .275

    Brady WAR:  0, .7, .9, .3, .5, .7, .6, .4 

    Median:  .513

     

    Goff PE/Play:  .391, .367, .045, .038, .153, .165, .363, .301

    Median:  .228

    Brady PE/Play:  .461, .389, .188, .287, .329, .298, .249

    Median .298

     

    Goff is even know as somewhat of a good long-ball thrower and Brady is not.

    But it is simply incorrect.  Brady was just better and more efficient, period.  No matter what the situation.

    People simply believe this because they want to and enough anti-Brady folks keep repeating it enough that it almost seems true.

    Until you actually watch the games or examine the underlying numbers.

    peace_5

     
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    Just stopping by so I can check on this thread after this game Sunday. If he is big time, he will beat the Vikings with that horrible defense. I don’t think he will do it.  

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    Just stopping by so I can check on this thread after this game Sunday. If he is big time, he will beat the Vikings with that horrible defense. I don’t think he will do it.  

     
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