ESPN (Adam Shefter) is reporting that he has been dealt to the Patriots.
Now we know what Bill Belichick was doing buried in the bowels of Gillette Stadium during the lockout. He was changing his defense.
The Patriots' stunning theft (5th-round draft choice in 2013) of Haynesworth from the Redskins must mean that New England is switching its defense from a linebacker-oriented 3-4 to a 4-3, with Vince Wilfork and Haynesworth in the middle. Haynesworth made life miserable for Mike Shanahan when he refused to adapt to Washington's 3-4, and there is no other explanation for the trade to New England unless the Pats are now going to the 4-3 as their basic package.
Something had to be done. The linebacking corps, already mediocre, was weakened earlier this week when the only pass-rusher of note, Tully Banta-Cain, was released. With Haynesworth in a suddenly-powerful D-line, linebackers play a lesser role, and Jerrod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Rob Ninkovich and Jermaine Cunningham now look more than serviceable.
Depending, of course, on whether Haynesworth behaves like a human being and produces anywhere near the way Randy Moss did when he fell in line in his first year in Foxboro. If he does the 11.5 win total on the Pats could be covered by Game 13 or 14.
Things just got a lot more interesting in the AFC East.
Your move, Jets.
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Albert Haynesworth.
ALBERT HAYNESWORTH???!!!$$$???
ESPN (Adam Shefter) is reporting that he has been dealt to the Patriots.
Now we know what Bill Belichick was doing buried in the bowels of Gillette Stadium during the lockout. He was changing his defense.
The Patriots' stunning theft (5th-round draft choice in 2013) of Haynesworth from the Redskins must mean that New England is switching its defense from a linebacker-oriented 3-4 to a 4-3, with Vince Wilfork and Haynesworth in the middle. Haynesworth made life miserable for Mike Shanahan when he refused to adapt to Washington's 3-4, and there is no other explanation for the trade to New England unless the Pats are now going to the 4-3 as their basic package.
Something had to be done. The linebacking corps, already mediocre, was weakened earlier this week when the only pass-rusher of note, Tully Banta-Cain, was released. With Haynesworth in a suddenly-powerful D-line, linebackers play a lesser role, and Jerrod Mayo, Brandon Spikes, Rob Ninkovich and Jermaine Cunningham now look more than serviceable.
Depending, of course, on whether Haynesworth behaves like a human being and produces anywhere near the way Randy Moss did when he fell in line in his first year in Foxboro. If he does the 11.5 win total on the Pats could be covered by Game 13 or 14.
Things just got a lot more interesting in the AFC East.
Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
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Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
well i dont know, maybe because he will want to win a superbowl and play for the greatest coach ever
Good luck on your 2-14 season with John Beck
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Quote Originally Posted by PASA818:
Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
well i dont know, maybe because he will want to win a superbowl and play for the greatest coach ever
Scsiegel - The skins do have many issue going way back when Dan Snyder bought the team. Yea we will suck once again, but getting rid of Fat Albert is a good thing for our team. $$ or Superbowl, that fatso doesn't care.
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Scsiegel - The skins do have many issue going way back when Dan Snyder bought the team. Yea we will suck once again, but getting rid of Fat Albert is a good thing for our team. $$ or Superbowl, that fatso doesn't care.
He better remain a fat load. A motivated, in shape Albert Haynesworth next to Wilfork would be insane.
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
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Quote Originally Posted by djcfl1:
He better remain a fat load. A motivated, in shape Albert Haynesworth next to Wilfork would be insane.
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
Not sure how you can say this considering all of the head-cases that Bill Belicick has dealt with throughout his tenure of head coach of the Patriots. He has taken chances on these head-cases, and they have all made a huge difference on their season (Corey Dillon, Randy Moss). a 5th round draft pick for someone who could potentially be a game-changer for their defense is a pretty insignificant price.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
Not sure how you can say this considering all of the head-cases that Bill Belicick has dealt with throughout his tenure of head coach of the Patriots. He has taken chances on these head-cases, and they have all made a huge difference on their season (Corey Dillon, Randy Moss). a 5th round draft pick for someone who could potentially be a game-changer for their defense is a pretty insignificant price.
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
How well was Randy Moss playing for the Raiders before he came to NE?And if Haynesworth turns out to be useless, big deal they wasted a 5th round choice.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
they have a better chance of having a motivated, in shape aretha franklin playing next to wilfork. if the patriots paid more than a $25 gift card to tom and jerry's, they paid too much for this guy.
How well was Randy Moss playing for the Raiders before he came to NE?And if Haynesworth turns out to be useless, big deal they wasted a 5th round choice.
Scsiegel - The skins do have many issue going way back when Dan Snyder bought the team. Yea we will suck once again, but getting rid of Fat Albert is a good thing for our team. $$ or Superbowl, that fatso doesn't care.
He cared when he was ripping it up in TN.
This is a no brainer. Pats are one team that commands respect. And you know BB will basically sit him down and say, "you need us more than we need you.....so here's the deal. You fall in line and work hard or you're out on the street."
And he can say that with a straigh face because everyone knows he'll kick him to the curb if he's disruptive or doesn't stay in shape.
No brainer for NE to pull off this move.
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Quote Originally Posted by PASA818:
Scsiegel - The skins do have many issue going way back when Dan Snyder bought the team. Yea we will suck once again, but getting rid of Fat Albert is a good thing for our team. $$ or Superbowl, that fatso doesn't care.
He cared when he was ripping it up in TN.
This is a no brainer. Pats are one team that commands respect. And you know BB will basically sit him down and say, "you need us more than we need you.....so here's the deal. You fall in line and work hard or you're out on the street."
And he can say that with a straigh face because everyone knows he'll kick him to the curb if he's disruptive or doesn't stay in shape.
Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
I don't believe NE is switching to a 4-3 like the article states (may be wrong but can't see them doing this). The reason Haynesworth didn't want to play in the 3-4 in WASH was because he was asked to play strictly nose guard (straight over the center) which he didn't want to do. In NE, Vince Wilfork already plays that role and Haynesworth will be asked to play one of the end positions (over the guard and tackle) like Richard Seymour used to do for them. Who knows if it will work out, but for a 5th round draft pick (NE always has extra picks anyways) to possibly have Wilfork and Haynesworth up the middle could be a HUGE DL for teams to deal with.
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Quote Originally Posted by PASA818:
Have you guys seen this fatso play. He will slow your defense down in the 2nd half. He will stop the clock late in the 4th qrt cause he's out of breath and for the other team offense to have time to get back on the line. Plus he never did wanted to play the 3 - 4 defense in Washington, so why would he want to do it in NE. Good luck and thank you for taking him from Wash.
I don't believe NE is switching to a 4-3 like the article states (may be wrong but can't see them doing this). The reason Haynesworth didn't want to play in the 3-4 in WASH was because he was asked to play strictly nose guard (straight over the center) which he didn't want to do. In NE, Vince Wilfork already plays that role and Haynesworth will be asked to play one of the end positions (over the guard and tackle) like Richard Seymour used to do for them. Who knows if it will work out, but for a 5th round draft pick (NE always has extra picks anyways) to possibly have Wilfork and Haynesworth up the middle could be a HUGE DL for teams to deal with.
i agree with you that if anyone can turn this fat slob around, the patriots can. i just don't think they can. i think hayneswroth is in a different category than moss and dillon. we shall see.
and i do think there is a big downside to moves like this if it doesn't go well, more than just losing a mid round draft pick.
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i agree with you that if anyone can turn this fat slob around, the patriots can. i just don't think they can. i think hayneswroth is in a different category than moss and dillon. we shall see.
and i do think there is a big downside to moves like this if it doesn't go well, more than just losing a mid round draft pick.
i agree with you that if anyone can turn this fat slob around, the patriots can. i just don't think they can. i think hayneswroth is in a different category than moss and dillon. we shall see.
and i do think there is a big downside to moves like this if it doesn't go well, more than just losing a mid round draft pick.
And the way NE stock-piles picks, it's not too much to give up.
I do think they will put in some 4-3 packages for him.
Since my Vikings look to be crappy to mediocre, this is going to be one of the more entertaining things for me to watch this year.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i agree with you that if anyone can turn this fat slob around, the patriots can. i just don't think they can. i think hayneswroth is in a different category than moss and dillon. we shall see.
and i do think there is a big downside to moves like this if it doesn't go well, more than just losing a mid round draft pick.
And the way NE stock-piles picks, it's not too much to give up.
I do think they will put in some 4-3 packages for him.
Since my Vikings look to be crappy to mediocre, this is going to be one of the more entertaining things for me to watch this year.
Albert Haynesworth is a fat, unmotivated pig. And that's insulting to a pig to mention them in the same sentence. The only people that will benefit from this is anyone who owns a restaurant within a 25 mile radius around training camp. This guy is a disgrace to all the NFL players that go out there and bust their ass as part of an NFL team. He'll be cut before the first game of the season.
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Albert Haynesworth is a fat, unmotivated pig. And that's insulting to a pig to mention them in the same sentence. The only people that will benefit from this is anyone who owns a restaurant within a 25 mile radius around training camp. This guy is a disgrace to all the NFL players that go out there and bust their ass as part of an NFL team. He'll be cut before the first game of the season.
Albert Haynesworth is a fat, unmotivated pig. And that's insulting to a pig to mention them in the same sentence. The only people that will benefit from this is anyone who owns a restaurant within a 25 mile radius around training camp. This guy is a disgrace to all the NFL players that go out there and bust their ass as part of an NFL team. He'll be cut before the first game of the season.
Is that you Mike? Or is it Kyle Shanahan?
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Quote Originally Posted by lovesoccer:
Albert Haynesworth is a fat, unmotivated pig. And that's insulting to a pig to mention them in the same sentence. The only people that will benefit from this is anyone who owns a restaurant within a 25 mile radius around training camp. This guy is a disgrace to all the NFL players that go out there and bust their ass as part of an NFL team. He'll be cut before the first game of the season.
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