I have $200 to win $4000 on the Colts and $200 to win $3200 on the Packers. Placed right after the Super bowl last season.
My book is offering the Seahawks at -330 and the Patriots at -265. Someone mentioned to me that I could do a money line parlay with the Seahawks and Pats to bring the juice down and if I lose that means one or both of my teams went through to the Super bowl. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not too good with this hedging stuff.
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I have $200 to win $4000 on the Colts and $200 to win $3200 on the Packers. Placed right after the Super bowl last season.
My book is offering the Seahawks at -330 and the Patriots at -265. Someone mentioned to me that I could do a money line parlay with the Seahawks and Pats to bring the juice down and if I lose that means one or both of my teams went through to the Super bowl. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not too good with this hedging stuff.
Colts have a very legit shot at winning sunday. this patriot team isn't any more talented than they are, and lucks the best player on the field sunday.
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Colts have a very legit shot at winning sunday. this patriot team isn't any more talented than they are, and lucks the best player on the field sunday.
I don't think that is a position that you can hedge. Hedging works best when you have locked in good payouts on wagering interests that have relatively low odds. When you have the big dogs it's a lot tougher.
The best example is horse racing. If you are live to five horses out of eight in the last leg of a Pick Four, Five, Six, etc. for good payouts, it's easy to hedge if the three you don't have are 11-1, 16-1, and 30-1. Small win bets on the longshots give you great hedge coverage. But if you were trying to beat the 9/5 favorite in the last leg and the other two spoilers are 9/2 and 7-1 it is a lot tougher because you have to bet so much on your "hedge" plays that you significantly cut out your potential profits and you do so by betting on interests you wanted to play against anyway.
I hope this helps. No hedge for me. BOL.
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I don't think that is a position that you can hedge. Hedging works best when you have locked in good payouts on wagering interests that have relatively low odds. When you have the big dogs it's a lot tougher.
The best example is horse racing. If you are live to five horses out of eight in the last leg of a Pick Four, Five, Six, etc. for good payouts, it's easy to hedge if the three you don't have are 11-1, 16-1, and 30-1. Small win bets on the longshots give you great hedge coverage. But if you were trying to beat the 9/5 favorite in the last leg and the other two spoilers are 9/2 and 7-1 it is a lot tougher because you have to bet so much on your "hedge" plays that you significantly cut out your potential profits and you do so by betting on interests you wanted to play against anyway.
If you don't want to lose any money and possibly win some, this is what you can do. Get on five dimes and do an open 6 point teaser for 1000. Take Seattle in the 1st game at -2. If Seattle wins then include NE in the second part of the tease at pickem. If Seattle loses then you won your money, minus a grand.
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If you don't want to lose any money and possibly win some, this is what you can do. Get on five dimes and do an open 6 point teaser for 1000. Take Seattle in the 1st game at -2. If Seattle wins then include NE in the second part of the tease at pickem. If Seattle loses then you won your money, minus a grand.
If you don't want to lose any money and possibly win some, this is what you can do. Get on five dimes and do an open 6 point teaser for 1000. Take Seattle in the 1st game at -2. If Seattle wins then include NE in the second part of the tease at pickem. If Seattle loses then you won your money, minus a grand.
What if Seattle win by 1 or 2? I don't see the point in leaving the parlay open. If Seattle covers it, you are adding NE anyway, so might as well just do the ML parlay to begin with. If Seattle loses, then you are out 1k and still have hedge more on the Pats in the SB, assuming they win as well.
These tickets are for winning the Super Bowl, right? That's my assumption at those prices.
You could do the ML parlay, but you'll have to hedge again in the Super Bowl, unless Colts and Pack both win.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
If you don't want to lose any money and possibly win some, this is what you can do. Get on five dimes and do an open 6 point teaser for 1000. Take Seattle in the 1st game at -2. If Seattle wins then include NE in the second part of the tease at pickem. If Seattle loses then you won your money, minus a grand.
What if Seattle win by 1 or 2? I don't see the point in leaving the parlay open. If Seattle covers it, you are adding NE anyway, so might as well just do the ML parlay to begin with. If Seattle loses, then you are out 1k and still have hedge more on the Pats in the SB, assuming they win as well.
These tickets are for winning the Super Bowl, right? That's my assumption at those prices.
You could do the ML parlay, but you'll have to hedge again in the Super Bowl, unless Colts and Pack both win.
I thought the tickets were for winning the division. But you are right BK, no need for an open tease. Also, betonline offers the best tease option for these games as you can tease Seattle to -1 and Denver to -.5 at --110 (I believe) for a 6 point tease. 5 dimes has Seattle at -8.5.
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I thought the tickets were for winning the division. But you are right BK, no need for an open tease. Also, betonline offers the best tease option for these games as you can tease Seattle to -1 and Denver to -.5 at --110 (I believe) for a 6 point tease. 5 dimes has Seattle at -8.5.
I'm pretty much in the same situation...Before the playoffs I put in a future that the SB matchup would be Colts vs Packers 100 to win 5000. I also put in a separate bet Colts to win AFC 100 to win 1400.
I've thought about ways to hedge, but I don't think I'm going to. If I change my mind and decide to hedge, it will probably be a ml parlay. Don't do a teaser like the other guy mentioned unless you can get a 7pt teaser for better than -130 (at that point it would actually give you better odds than the parlay). The way I look at it is that it's only $200, and hedging is never a good move mathematically.
Now, if GB wins the early game I will probably look to catch a live bet on Pats ml for a good price (hopefully Indy gets a lead at some point in the game). That's what I did for my Indy ml + Ohio st ml parlay the other day. I got Ore ml +170 in game for a very small hedge (only covered the cost of my wager).
Good luck with whatever you decide...I think GB and Indy both have a great chance of winning
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I'm pretty much in the same situation...Before the playoffs I put in a future that the SB matchup would be Colts vs Packers 100 to win 5000. I also put in a separate bet Colts to win AFC 100 to win 1400.
I've thought about ways to hedge, but I don't think I'm going to. If I change my mind and decide to hedge, it will probably be a ml parlay. Don't do a teaser like the other guy mentioned unless you can get a 7pt teaser for better than -130 (at that point it would actually give you better odds than the parlay). The way I look at it is that it's only $200, and hedging is never a good move mathematically.
Now, if GB wins the early game I will probably look to catch a live bet on Pats ml for a good price (hopefully Indy gets a lead at some point in the game). That's what I did for my Indy ml + Ohio st ml parlay the other day. I got Ore ml +170 in game for a very small hedge (only covered the cost of my wager).
Good luck with whatever you decide...I think GB and Indy both have a great chance of winning
I thought the tickets were for winning the division. But you are right BK, no need for an open tease. Also, betonline offers the best tease option for these games as you can tease Seattle to -1 and Denver to -.5 at --110 (I believe) for a 6 point tease. 5 dimes has Seattle at -8.5.
Yeah, I thought based on the prices they were SB odds, but I could be wrong. Obviously a different approach for each.
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
I thought the tickets were for winning the division. But you are right BK, no need for an open tease. Also, betonline offers the best tease option for these games as you can tease Seattle to -1 and Denver to -.5 at --110 (I believe) for a 6 point tease. 5 dimes has Seattle at -8.5.
Yeah, I thought based on the prices they were SB odds, but I could be wrong. Obviously a different approach for each.
You're better off doing a 6 point teaser w/ just the Pats & the Seahawks. It pays better & I'd put a boat load on it to hedge. Rodgers is hurt & hobbled or GB would have a chance. They'll have no answer for Seattle's running game. Green Bay isn't a physical defense, especially without BJ Raji. Green Bay is a great matchup for Seattle. Carolina wasn't. Rodgers looked very uncomfortable in the pocket & it will be worse on the road vs a better pass rushing team in a loud stadium.
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You're better off doing a 6 point teaser w/ just the Pats & the Seahawks. It pays better & I'd put a boat load on it to hedge. Rodgers is hurt & hobbled or GB would have a chance. They'll have no answer for Seattle's running game. Green Bay isn't a physical defense, especially without BJ Raji. Green Bay is a great matchup for Seattle. Carolina wasn't. Rodgers looked very uncomfortable in the pocket & it will be worse on the road vs a better pass rushing team in a loud stadium.
Colts have a very legit shot at winning sunday. this patriot team isn't any more talented than they are, and lucks the best player on the field sunday.
Just because the Colts beat a hurt, & old Peyton Manning doesn't mean they'll win in Foxborough.
The Colts have lost 59-24, 42-20, & 43-21 in their last 3 games vs the Pats. Not sure why you think they have a shot now...
This is the most complete Pats team in years.The Colts can't stop the run (470 in their L2 games given up on ground to Pats) and they don't have a running game. Colts will be one dimensional.
The Pats have the better defense, the better coach, & the better rushing attack. Not sure why you think Colts have a chance to win ML. Pats own their soul & have a healthy Gronkowski. Brady is 100% healthy. Peyton was playing w/ a torn quad. Vontae Davis is the best player on the Colts D, but he can only cover 1 guy. Belichick will own Chuck Pagano's soul once again. The Pats can run AND pass on the Colts. This will allow the Colts to bite on the Play-action and get hurt in a big way.
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Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:
Colts have a very legit shot at winning sunday. this patriot team isn't any more talented than they are, and lucks the best player on the field sunday.
Just because the Colts beat a hurt, & old Peyton Manning doesn't mean they'll win in Foxborough.
The Colts have lost 59-24, 42-20, & 43-21 in their last 3 games vs the Pats. Not sure why you think they have a shot now...
This is the most complete Pats team in years.The Colts can't stop the run (470 in their L2 games given up on ground to Pats) and they don't have a running game. Colts will be one dimensional.
The Pats have the better defense, the better coach, & the better rushing attack. Not sure why you think Colts have a chance to win ML. Pats own their soul & have a healthy Gronkowski. Brady is 100% healthy. Peyton was playing w/ a torn quad. Vontae Davis is the best player on the Colts D, but he can only cover 1 guy. Belichick will own Chuck Pagano's soul once again. The Pats can run AND pass on the Colts. This will allow the Colts to bite on the Play-action and get hurt in a big way.
Thanks for the advice guys. It would make sense for me to do a teaser. As an example if I put $500 on a ml parlay with NE and Sea it would pay out $405.
If I did a teaser 6 1/2 pt teaser it would make NE - 1/2 and Sea PK. $500 to win $416
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Thanks for the advice guys. It would make sense for me to do a teaser. As an example if I put $500 on a ml parlay with NE and Sea it would pay out $405.
If I did a teaser 6 1/2 pt teaser it would make NE - 1/2 and Sea PK. $500 to win $416
Just because the Colts beat a hurt, & old Peyton Manning doesn't mean they'll win in Foxborough.
The Colts have lost 59-24, 42-20, & 43-21 in their last 3 games vs the Pats. Not sure why you think they have a shot now...
This is the most complete Pats team in years.The Colts can't stop the run (470 in their L2 games given up on ground to Pats) and they don't have a running game. Colts will be one dimensional.
The Pats have the better defense, the better coach, & the better rushing attack. Not sure why you think Colts have a chance to win ML. Pats own their soul & have a healthy Gronkowski. Brady is 100% healthy. Peyton was playing w/ a torn quad. Vontae Davis is the best player on the Colts D, but he can only cover 1 guy. Belichick will own Chuck Pagano's soul once again. The Pats can run AND pass on the Colts. This will allow the Colts to bite on the Play-action and get hurt in a big way.
And if past performances guaranteed future returns we would all be rich.
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Quote Originally Posted by DegenCurtis21:
Just because the Colts beat a hurt, & old Peyton Manning doesn't mean they'll win in Foxborough.
The Colts have lost 59-24, 42-20, & 43-21 in their last 3 games vs the Pats. Not sure why you think they have a shot now...
This is the most complete Pats team in years.The Colts can't stop the run (470 in their L2 games given up on ground to Pats) and they don't have a running game. Colts will be one dimensional.
The Pats have the better defense, the better coach, & the better rushing attack. Not sure why you think Colts have a chance to win ML. Pats own their soul & have a healthy Gronkowski. Brady is 100% healthy. Peyton was playing w/ a torn quad. Vontae Davis is the best player on the Colts D, but he can only cover 1 guy. Belichick will own Chuck Pagano's soul once again. The Pats can run AND pass on the Colts. This will allow the Colts to bite on the Play-action and get hurt in a big way.
And if past performances guaranteed future returns we would all be rich.
And if past performances guaranteed future returns we would all be rich.
True. The Pats are actually better this year than they've been in the past. They've added two of the best CBs in the NFL in Revis & Browner. They have a healthy Gronk & Wilfork for a change. They have a balanced attack & WRs who catch the football. They have the best HC left in the playoffs.
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Quote Originally Posted by thatsLife:
And if past performances guaranteed future returns we would all be rich.
True. The Pats are actually better this year than they've been in the past. They've added two of the best CBs in the NFL in Revis & Browner. They have a healthy Gronk & Wilfork for a change. They have a balanced attack & WRs who catch the football. They have the best HC left in the playoffs.
True. The Pats are actually better this year than they've been in the past. They've added two of the best CBs in the NFL in Revis & Browner. They have a healthy Gronk & Wilfork for a change. They have a balanced attack & WRs who catch the football. They have the best HC left in the playoffs.
Browner is one of the best CBs in the NFL? lol. He actually has an average coverage grade this season. Revis is great, but the Colts will have the best CB in this game in Vontae Davis. Wilfork??? What impact do you expect him to have this game? Indy will be passing the ball all game and Wilfork is a run stopper. He has exactly ZERO sacks this season. He will be a huge (pun intended) waste of space this game. And what exactly has the "best HC left in the playoffs" done since he's been caught cheating?
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Quote Originally Posted by DegenCurtis21:
True. The Pats are actually better this year than they've been in the past. They've added two of the best CBs in the NFL in Revis & Browner. They have a healthy Gronk & Wilfork for a change. They have a balanced attack & WRs who catch the football. They have the best HC left in the playoffs.
Browner is one of the best CBs in the NFL? lol. He actually has an average coverage grade this season. Revis is great, but the Colts will have the best CB in this game in Vontae Davis. Wilfork??? What impact do you expect him to have this game? Indy will be passing the ball all game and Wilfork is a run stopper. He has exactly ZERO sacks this season. He will be a huge (pun intended) waste of space this game. And what exactly has the "best HC left in the playoffs" done since he's been caught cheating?
Bill Belicheck has gone 12-4 or better his last 5 seasons & has won 3 Super Bowls. Name me another coach in the NFL who's done that. Browner being one of the best CBs in the NFL is a little bit of an exagerration but he's good enough to cover Indy's no. 2. Revis will be all over Hilton. Fleener is going to have to step up big for the Colts. It's not like the Colts have a running game anyway but if they try to run it'll be stuffed. The Colts are one-dimensional in this game and the Pats are not. The Pats had 500+ yards vs them last game & 246 came on the ground. Balance, my friends. The Colts don't have that. Brady will have time in the pocket & when he does he's usually pretty good. Indy's defense is overrated coming into this game after their performance against Andy Dalton (no AJ Green) & Marvin "Big Game" Lewis. Peyton Manning is a 39 year old man playing w/ a torn quad for f*ck sake.
OP, do a 6-point teaser. It's your best value. You won't need the 6.5.
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Bill Belicheck has gone 12-4 or better his last 5 seasons & has won 3 Super Bowls. Name me another coach in the NFL who's done that. Browner being one of the best CBs in the NFL is a little bit of an exagerration but he's good enough to cover Indy's no. 2. Revis will be all over Hilton. Fleener is going to have to step up big for the Colts. It's not like the Colts have a running game anyway but if they try to run it'll be stuffed. The Colts are one-dimensional in this game and the Pats are not. The Pats had 500+ yards vs them last game & 246 came on the ground. Balance, my friends. The Colts don't have that. Brady will have time in the pocket & when he does he's usually pretty good. Indy's defense is overrated coming into this game after their performance against Andy Dalton (no AJ Green) & Marvin "Big Game" Lewis. Peyton Manning is a 39 year old man playing w/ a torn quad for f*ck sake.
OP, do a 6-point teaser. It's your best value. You won't need the 6.5.
Bill Belicheck has gone 12-4 or better his last 5 seasons & has won 3 Super Bowls. Name me another coach in the NFL who's done that. Browner being one of the best CBs in the NFL is a little bit of an exagerration but he's good enough to cover Indy's no. 2. Revis will be all over Hilton. Fleener is going to have to step up big for the Colts. It's not like the Colts have a running game anyway but if they try to run it'll be stuffed. The Colts are one-dimensional in this game and the Pats are not. The Pats had 500+ yards vs them last game & 246 came on the ground. Balance, my friends. The Colts don't have that. Brady will have time in the pocket & when he does he's usually pretty good. Indy's defense is overrated coming into this game after their performance against Andy Dalton (no AJ Green) & Marvin "Big Game" Lewis. Peyton Manning is a 39 year old man playing w/ a torn quad for f*ck sake.
OP, do a 6-point teaser. It's your best value. You won't need the 6.5.
Simply stating that their defense is overrated is a bit lazy. Jeremy Hill came into that game as one of the hottest running backs in the nfl and Indy completely shut him down. Same with Cj Anderson. He gained 80 yds on 20 carries, and aside from his one 20+ yd run was stuffed the entire game.
I'm not trying to argue that the Colts are going to crush the Pats this weekend. All I'm saying is that the Colts are playing some great football on both sides of the ball and the Patriots are not unbeatable. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that the Colts can win this weekend.
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Quote Originally Posted by DegenCurtis21:
Bill Belicheck has gone 12-4 or better his last 5 seasons & has won 3 Super Bowls. Name me another coach in the NFL who's done that. Browner being one of the best CBs in the NFL is a little bit of an exagerration but he's good enough to cover Indy's no. 2. Revis will be all over Hilton. Fleener is going to have to step up big for the Colts. It's not like the Colts have a running game anyway but if they try to run it'll be stuffed. The Colts are one-dimensional in this game and the Pats are not. The Pats had 500+ yards vs them last game & 246 came on the ground. Balance, my friends. The Colts don't have that. Brady will have time in the pocket & when he does he's usually pretty good. Indy's defense is overrated coming into this game after their performance against Andy Dalton (no AJ Green) & Marvin "Big Game" Lewis. Peyton Manning is a 39 year old man playing w/ a torn quad for f*ck sake.
OP, do a 6-point teaser. It's your best value. You won't need the 6.5.
Simply stating that their defense is overrated is a bit lazy. Jeremy Hill came into that game as one of the hottest running backs in the nfl and Indy completely shut him down. Same with Cj Anderson. He gained 80 yds on 20 carries, and aside from his one 20+ yd run was stuffed the entire game.
I'm not trying to argue that the Colts are going to crush the Pats this weekend. All I'm saying is that the Colts are playing some great football on both sides of the ball and the Patriots are not unbeatable. I don't think it's ridiculous to think that the Colts can win this weekend.
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