70% are betting on Chargers against spread but 75% are betting for Chicago on the money line?
isnt the money line the majority number of both bets? shouldnt the spread majority bet make the money line bet more in the Chargers favor? IE more people betting on Chargers.
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Bears vs Chargers
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70% are betting on Chargers against spread but 75% are betting for Chicago on the money line?
isnt the money line the majority number of both bets? shouldnt the spread majority bet make the money line bet more in the Chargers favor? IE more people betting on Chargers.
70% are betting on Chargers against spread but 75% are betting for Chicago on the money line?
This section of your post is completely irrelevant to the question being asked in your subject line. It's a totally different discussion.
Betting the MoneyLine, in simple terms, means betting on the outright winner of the game. Regardless of what the final score may be. That's why (since this is the NFL forum), the Patriots almost always have a negative moneyline cause they're favored in just about every game. $100 that NE wins vs WHOEVER returns a small gain since its a likely outcome.
And Spreads basically give a handicap to the game.
A quick search engine search would've answered this though.
70% are betting on Chargers against spread but 75% are betting for Chicago on the money line?
This section of your post is completely irrelevant to the question being asked in your subject line. It's a totally different discussion.
Betting the MoneyLine, in simple terms, means betting on the outright winner of the game. Regardless of what the final score may be. That's why (since this is the NFL forum), the Patriots almost always have a negative moneyline cause they're favored in just about every game. $100 that NE wins vs WHOEVER returns a small gain since its a likely outcome.
And Spreads basically give a handicap to the game.
A quick search engine search would've answered this though.
This section of your post is completely irrelevant to the question being asked in your subject line. It's a totally different discussion.
Betting the MoneyLine, in simple terms, means betting on the outright winner of the game. Regardless of what the final score may be. That's why (since this is the NFL forum), the Patriots almost always have a negative moneyline cause they're favored in just about every game. $100 that NE wins vs WHOEVER returns a small gain since its a likely outcome.
And Spreads basically give a handicap to the game.
A quick search engine search would've answered this though.
I asked how do you read it therefore the question is spot on and not irrelevant. you didnt understand the question and made it more confusing lol.
how can a majority be betting that Chargers cover the spread but a majority bet Bears will win...? that makes no sense
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Quote Originally Posted by NCarts:
This section of your post is completely irrelevant to the question being asked in your subject line. It's a totally different discussion.
Betting the MoneyLine, in simple terms, means betting on the outright winner of the game. Regardless of what the final score may be. That's why (since this is the NFL forum), the Patriots almost always have a negative moneyline cause they're favored in just about every game. $100 that NE wins vs WHOEVER returns a small gain since its a likely outcome.
And Spreads basically give a handicap to the game.
A quick search engine search would've answered this though.
ML and spread totals are tracked differently and the pool of bets are kept separately. Therefore, 70% of "spread" wagers only are on SD but from only the "Moneyline" wager pool, the majority is on the underdog (usually is the case since the payout is bigger).
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ML and spread totals are tracked differently and the pool of bets are kept separately. Therefore, 70% of "spread" wagers only are on SD but from only the "Moneyline" wager pool, the majority is on the underdog (usually is the case since the payout is bigger).
ML and spread totals are tracked differently and the pool of bets are kept separately. Therefore, 70% of "spread" wagers only are on SD but from only the "Moneyline" wager pool, the majority is on the underdog (usually is the case since the payout is bigger).
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Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:
ML and spread totals are tracked differently and the pool of bets are kept separately. Therefore, 70% of "spread" wagers only are on SD but from only the "Moneyline" wager pool, the majority is on the underdog (usually is the case since the payout is bigger).
Chic it is also early in the week, and there are too many bettors who bet on a team based on the last game or their fan support. I have also seen bettors who make a decision on a play based on if the line moves a half or 1 point.
I would not put much stock in what other bettors are doing. Did you also want to discuss this game from a handicapping perspective ?
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Chic it is also early in the week, and there are too many bettors who bet on a team based on the last game or their fan support. I have also seen bettors who make a decision on a play based on if the line moves a half or 1 point.
I would not put much stock in what other bettors are doing. Did you also want to discuss this game from a handicapping perspective ?
how can a majority be betting that Chargers cover the spread but a majority bet Bears will win...? that makes no sense
Because 'public betting charts' are completely useless. Only a handful of sportsbooks provide that general information to these 'sports insights' websites, and the the major books that the majority of the world are betting on don't.
Secondly, even if the charts were a true representation of the betting world (they aren't), how much money is landing on one side or the other has absolutely no correlation to the outcome of a game.
'Public' and 'sharp' are myths that keep touts and sportsbooks promoters in business. Lots of people on here will tell you it's all real. That's because lots of people on here don't know how to handicap games, so they subscribe to the make-believe world of Da Vinci Code Vegas Lines and public/sharp nonsense.
The question is irrelevant because it seeks more information on something that doesn't actually exist.
The real question is, how do these two teams match up? Who is most likely to win? What is the line? Does it agree with your opinion on the game? Is there an advantage to you to bet either side of it?
Those are the questions none of the RLM geniuses even bother to look at. Please don't be one of them!
Best of luck this week.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
how can a majority be betting that Chargers cover the spread but a majority bet Bears will win...? that makes no sense
Because 'public betting charts' are completely useless. Only a handful of sportsbooks provide that general information to these 'sports insights' websites, and the the major books that the majority of the world are betting on don't.
Secondly, even if the charts were a true representation of the betting world (they aren't), how much money is landing on one side or the other has absolutely no correlation to the outcome of a game.
'Public' and 'sharp' are myths that keep touts and sportsbooks promoters in business. Lots of people on here will tell you it's all real. That's because lots of people on here don't know how to handicap games, so they subscribe to the make-believe world of Da Vinci Code Vegas Lines and public/sharp nonsense.
The question is irrelevant because it seeks more information on something that doesn't actually exist.
The real question is, how do these two teams match up? Who is most likely to win? What is the line? Does it agree with your opinion on the game? Is there an advantage to you to bet either side of it?
Those are the questions none of the RLM geniuses even bother to look at. Please don't be one of them!
Chic it is also early in the week, and there are too many bettors who bet on a team based on the last game or their fan support. I have also seen bettors who make a decision on a play based on if the line moves a half or 1 point.
I would not put much stock in what other bettors are doing. Did you also want to discuss this game from a handicapping perspective ?
handicapping? in what way/regard?
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Quote Originally Posted by MagicMan64:
Chic it is also early in the week, and there are too many bettors who bet on a team based on the last game or their fan support. I have also seen bettors who make a decision on a play based on if the line moves a half or 1 point.
I would not put much stock in what other bettors are doing. Did you also want to discuss this game from a handicapping perspective ?
Because 'public betting charts' are completely useless. Only a handful of sportsbooks provide that general information to these 'sports insights' websites, and the the major books that the majority of the world are betting on don't.
Secondly, even if the charts were a true representation of the betting world (they aren't), how much money is landing on one side or the other has absolutely no correlation to the outcome of a game.
'Public' and 'sharp' are myths that keep touts and sportsbooks promoters in business. Lots of people on here will tell you it's all real. That's because lots of people on here don't know how to handicap games, so they subscribe to the make-believe world of Da Vinci Code Vegas Lines and public/sharp nonsense.
The question is irrelevant because it seeks more information on something that doesn't actually exist.
The real question is, how do these two teams match up? Who is most likely to win? What is the line? Does it agree with your opinion on the game? Is there an advantage to you to bet either side of it?
Those are the questions none of the RLM geniuses even bother to look at. Please don't be one of them!
Best of luck this week.
I half agree with you...or, I agree with you but not entirely.
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Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:
Because 'public betting charts' are completely useless. Only a handful of sportsbooks provide that general information to these 'sports insights' websites, and the the major books that the majority of the world are betting on don't.
Secondly, even if the charts were a true representation of the betting world (they aren't), how much money is landing on one side or the other has absolutely no correlation to the outcome of a game.
'Public' and 'sharp' are myths that keep touts and sportsbooks promoters in business. Lots of people on here will tell you it's all real. That's because lots of people on here don't know how to handicap games, so they subscribe to the make-believe world of Da Vinci Code Vegas Lines and public/sharp nonsense.
The question is irrelevant because it seeks more information on something that doesn't actually exist.
The real question is, how do these two teams match up? Who is most likely to win? What is the line? Does it agree with your opinion on the game? Is there an advantage to you to bet either side of it?
Those are the questions none of the RLM geniuses even bother to look at. Please don't be one of them!
Best of luck this week.
I half agree with you...or, I agree with you but not entirely.
@chic-cardinals, I was asking if you were interested in the money line spread connection in general and was using the Bears Chargers game as an example or were you interested in analyzing the Bears Chargers game from a betting perspective ?
There is plenty of worthless info out there. I dont have time to breakdown the game right now, but may give it a shot after I get off work.
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@chic-cardinals, I was asking if you were interested in the money line spread connection in general and was using the Bears Chargers game as an example or were you interested in analyzing the Bears Chargers game from a betting perspective ?
There is plenty of worthless info out there. I dont have time to breakdown the game right now, but may give it a shot after I get off work.
@chic-cardinals, I was asking if you were interested in the money line spread connection in general and was using the Bears Chargers game as an example or were you interested in analyzing the Bears Chargers game from a betting perspective ?
There is plenty of worthless info out there. I dont have time to breakdown the game right now, but may give it a shot after I get off work.
i meant in general. I dont bet. I just like being right and winning pickem contests and I use betting trends with cliche football knowledge
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Quote Originally Posted by MagicMan64:
@chic-cardinals, I was asking if you were interested in the money line spread connection in general and was using the Bears Chargers game as an example or were you interested in analyzing the Bears Chargers game from a betting perspective ?
There is plenty of worthless info out there. I dont have time to breakdown the game right now, but may give it a shot after I get off work.
i meant in general. I dont bet. I just like being right and winning pickem contests and I use betting trends with cliche football knowledge
@chiccardinals, I am going to give you insight into some handicapping processes and concepts you can use, and the example will be the Bears Chargers game. First off I do not recommend betting on this game. This is for illustrative purposes. Also you are going to get advice from other handicappers just to prove me wrong. But hey where were their posts from the start. This is going to start off with the KISS concept.
Your first lean is towards the home team. Next, start looking at differentials. For a non based point metric go with offensive passing yards per attempt minus defensive passing yards per attempt. For a point based metric use points for minus points against.
Another thing you can do is group games by line amount based on 3.5
Group A would be where the line is 0 to 3.5 Group B would be where the line is 3.5 to 7. Group C would be where the line is 7 to 10.5. Group D would be where the line is 10.5 to 14.
At sportingcharts.com, they have a matchup tool where you click on the visiting team and then click on the home team. You can use that for further data analysis.
Now for your own work, check out the Bears Chargers point differentials and passing yards differential. Then also group the games into categories, make notes about you think are stat edges based on the matchup tool.
For example you might think a three and out ranking is significant. You can also look things like toxic differential etc on that site.
Another thing to keep in mind, if you are thinking about using trends, dont do that.
You can also develop fundamental handicapping concepts like this team runs the ball well and the other team has trouble stopping the run.
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@chiccardinals, I am going to give you insight into some handicapping processes and concepts you can use, and the example will be the Bears Chargers game. First off I do not recommend betting on this game. This is for illustrative purposes. Also you are going to get advice from other handicappers just to prove me wrong. But hey where were their posts from the start. This is going to start off with the KISS concept.
Your first lean is towards the home team. Next, start looking at differentials. For a non based point metric go with offensive passing yards per attempt minus defensive passing yards per attempt. For a point based metric use points for minus points against.
Another thing you can do is group games by line amount based on 3.5
Group A would be where the line is 0 to 3.5 Group B would be where the line is 3.5 to 7. Group C would be where the line is 7 to 10.5. Group D would be where the line is 10.5 to 14.
At sportingcharts.com, they have a matchup tool where you click on the visiting team and then click on the home team. You can use that for further data analysis.
Now for your own work, check out the Bears Chargers point differentials and passing yards differential. Then also group the games into categories, make notes about you think are stat edges based on the matchup tool.
For example you might think a three and out ranking is significant. You can also look things like toxic differential etc on that site.
Another thing to keep in mind, if you are thinking about using trends, dont do that.
You can also develop fundamental handicapping concepts like this team runs the ball well and the other team has trouble stopping the run.
People don't like to make bets at -170. So if they like the Chargers they will take them ATS. People also prefer to get +150 to -110 so if they like the Bears they take the Bears.
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People don't like to make bets at -170. So if they like the Chargers they will take them ATS. People also prefer to get +150 to -110 so if they like the Bears they take the Bears.
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But hey where were their posts from the start. This is going to start off with the KISS concept.
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