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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 5:51 AM ET #76

    Lets take this a point at a time.  

    Someone said, why hasnt ONE former player come out and said the games are fixed.   For just ONE....Larry Johnson...former NFL All Pro RB has repeatedly talked about how the NFL games are just entertainment....and that the games are scripted

    The owner of the KC Chiefs in 2016 in a speech to his team regarding standing for the National Anthem has said he is the owner, the field is his stage, and the players are paid entertainers(google and read the speech)

    The easiest way for NFL games to be fixed....the REFS...they are paid employees of the LEAGUE and will do as they are told

    How else can they be fixed.   Ever watch some videos of former capo Mike Franzese of the Mafia.  He explained in some of how "debts" were passed up to him, in some instances, he referred how some high level players were then in his debt for gambling, and explained how he arranged for certain games to be fixed.   He never named names though.

    For those who say the players make too much money, they cant be paid enough to throw games.  HERE is another example.  In the NBA, during his retirement speech(when he "left to go play baseball"), Michael Jordan was asked if he would ever play in the NBA again by a reporter.   His answer, if they David Stern(the NBA) let me back in.   Watch the entire thing on Youtube.   Its almost a hour, but the words came out of the camel's mouth.   what do you think he was referring to when he meant.....if they let me back in.   To me, it means at that time, his "retirement" wasnt voluntary.   But, you can come to your own conclusions.

    Tim Donehay(sp) was the ref convicted of betting on NBA for his own benefit and thrown out of the league.

    People have asked....give me some examples.   Well....there are some.

    IF you STILL want to choose that games in sports are not/cant be fixed, I have no problem with YOUR CHOICE.

    What used to make this forum great was the intelligent exchange of ideas.   NOW? There is too much trash talking back and forth

    With the advent of many sports teams forging partnerships AND TV Broadcasters(such as ESPN/FOX) aligning with businesses that take wagers as a business, in my opinion, the integrity is only going to diminish further. 

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    Lets take this a point at a time.  

    Someone said, why hasnt ONE former player come out and said the games are fixed.   For just ONE....Larry Johnson...former NFL All Pro RB has repeatedly talked about how the NFL games are just entertainment....and that the games are scripted

    The owner of the KC Chiefs in 2016 in a speech to his team regarding standing for the National Anthem has said he is the owner, the field is his stage, and the players are paid entertainers(google and read the speech)

    The easiest way for NFL games to be fixed....the REFS...they are paid employees of the LEAGUE and will do as they are told

    How else can they be fixed.   Ever watch some videos of former capo Mike Franzese of the Mafia.  He explained in some of how "debts" were passed up to him, in some instances, he referred how some high level players were then in his debt for gambling, and explained how he arranged for certain games to be fixed.   He never named names though.

    For those who say the players make too much money, they cant be paid enough to throw games.  HERE is another example.  In the NBA, during his retirement speech(when he "left to go play baseball"), Michael Jordan was asked if he would ever play in the NBA again by a reporter.   His answer, if they David Stern(the NBA) let me back in.   Watch the entire thing on Youtube.   Its almost a hour, but the words came out of the camel's mouth.   what do you think he was referring to when he meant.....if they let me back in.   To me, it means at that time, his "retirement" wasnt voluntary.   But, you can come to your own conclusions.

    Tim Donehay(sp) was the ref convicted of betting on NBA for his own benefit and thrown out of the league.

    People have asked....give me some examples.   Well....there are some.

    IF you STILL want to choose that games in sports are not/cant be fixed, I have no problem with YOUR CHOICE.

    What used to make this forum great was the intelligent exchange of ideas.   NOW? There is too much trash talking back and forth

    With the advent of many sports teams forging partnerships AND TV Broadcasters(such as ESPN/FOX) aligning with businesses that take wagers as a business, in my opinion, the integrity is only going to diminish further. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 5:59 AM ET #77

    Yay!

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 8:34 AM ET #78

    confused Post 75:

    You again deflect with no ability to confront reality. You're so proud of your ignorant behavior.

    (Oh the irony)

    Um...how stupid are you? You threaten the jobs of 80 million plus people, you've declared war on the country.

    (Threaten 80Million jobs? What are you talking about? Declared war? Whens the last time you refilled your Rx?)

    Texting on a forum , I'm not worried about being professional. Don't have all day to waste typing.

    (Oh the irony)

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    confused Post 75:

    You again deflect with no ability to confront reality. You're so proud of your ignorant behavior.

    (Oh the irony)

    Um...how stupid are you? You threaten the jobs of 80 million plus people, you've declared war on the country.

    (Threaten 80Million jobs? What are you talking about? Declared war? Whens the last time you refilled your Rx?)

    Texting on a forum , I'm not worried about being professional. Don't have all day to waste typing.

    (Oh the irony)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 9:58 AM ET #79

    @chic-cardinals

     Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did. 

    Larry Johnsonan_roll_laughAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy? 

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     Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did. 

    Larry Johnsonan_roll_laughAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy? 

     
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    There you go again politizing your negative comments again like you did last year how did that work out for you @ the end of the year * sigh sleep2

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    There you go again politizing your negative comments again like you did last year how did that work out for you @ the end of the year * sigh sleep2

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl42:

    @chic-cardinals  Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did.  Larry JohnsonAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy?
     

    See, that? Right there.

    This is what I mean. Show  me an ex player who's says something. Show you ex player.

    Ohh but media says he's crazy.... You just proved our point that you rely on media to tell you what to think.

    They mock the source and you comply

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl42:

    @chic-cardinals  Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did.  Larry JohnsonAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy?
     

    See, that? Right there.

    This is what I mean. Show  me an ex player who's says something. Show you ex player.

    Ohh but media says he's crazy.... You just proved our point that you rely on media to tell you what to think.

    They mock the source and you comply

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 2:48 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Post 75: You again deflect with no ability to confront reality. You're so proud of your ignorant behavior. (Oh the irony) Um...how stupid are you? You threaten the jobs of 80 million plus people, you've declared war on the country. (Threaten 80Million jobs? What are you talking about? Declared war? Whens the last time you refilled your Rx?) Texting on a forum , I'm not worried about being professional. Don't have all day to waste typing. (Oh the irony)
     

    This is proof you're a fake account. Or the most ignorant human alive

     

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    Post 75: You again deflect with no ability to confront reality. You're so proud of your ignorant behavior. (Oh the irony) Um...how stupid are you? You threaten the jobs of 80 million plus people, you've declared war on the country. (Threaten 80Million jobs? What are you talking about? Declared war? Whens the last time you refilled your Rx?) Texting on a forum , I'm not worried about being professional. Don't have all day to waste typing. (Oh the irony)
     

    This is proof you're a fake account. Or the most ignorant human alive

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 3:41 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by carl42:

    @chic-cardinals  Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did.  Larry JohnsonAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy?
     

    I was complimenting the poster.

    I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment His us just one example

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    Quote Originally Posted by carl42:

    @chic-cardinals  Did you get a woody? A $1000 says you did.  Larry JohnsonAll of his crazy issues and stuff he says and that is your go to guy?
     

    I was complimenting the poster.

    I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment His us just one example

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 3:51 PM ET #84

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     What happened 6 years ago in your life to help you come to such a mind blowing realization?

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     What happened 6 years ago in your life to help you come to such a mind blowing realization?

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2021 - 7:13 PM ET #85

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     Ouch, sorry man...didnt mean to hit a nerve with post #84...come back whenever you are ready to talk about it admin

    hope you work thru all that buried trauma and come out a better person for it peace_5 peace

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     Ouch, sorry man...didnt mean to hit a nerve with post #84...come back whenever you are ready to talk about it admin

    hope you work thru all that buried trauma and come out a better person for it peace_5 peace

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    @chic-cardinals  Ouch, sorry man...didnt mean to hit a nerve with post #84...come back whenever you are ready to talk about it  hope you work thru all that buried trauma and come out a better person for it
     

    Hit a nerve? I simply choose when to waste time talking to ignorant fools.

     You're a child

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    @chic-cardinals  Ouch, sorry man...didnt mean to hit a nerve with post #84...come back whenever you are ready to talk about it  hope you work thru all that buried trauma and come out a better person for it
     

    Hit a nerve? I simply choose when to waste time talking to ignorant fools.

     You're a child

     
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     Im a child? How so?

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     Im a child? How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment

    Why are you refusing to explain the incident 6 years ago that completely ruined your life? Youre the only who keeps volunteering new golden nuggets of info about your beautiful mind...help us humans on this planet understand how tweakers from your planet think

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    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment

    Why are you refusing to explain the incident 6 years ago that completely ruined your life? Youre the only who keeps volunteering new golden nuggets of info about your beautiful mind...help us humans on this planet understand how tweakers from your planet think

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment Why are you refusing to explain the incident 6 years ago that completely ruined your life? Youre the only who keeps volunteering new golden nuggets of info about your beautiful mind...help us humans on this planet understand how tweakers from your planet think
     

    You assume some kind of importance that I'm supposed to appease. And you're quite stalky.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: I've known for 6 years that it's entertainment Why are you refusing to explain the incident 6 years ago that completely ruined your life? Youre the only who keeps volunteering new golden nuggets of info about your beautiful mind...help us humans on this planet understand how tweakers from your planet think
     

    You assume some kind of importance that I'm supposed to appease. And you're quite stalky.

     

     
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     Hey brother I believe you man. Ever since I saw Larry Johnson former chiefs running back say NFL is rigged I stopped watching and then Dwight Smith said its rigged and called Buccs and array winning it. I'm thinking Buccs Rams is preview for rigged superbowl because Brady is goat ram and he goes undefeated and wins superbowl. I can't see how Brady doesn't get to beat Rams but let me know your opinion 

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     Hey brother I believe you man. Ever since I saw Larry Johnson former chiefs running back say NFL is rigged I stopped watching and then Dwight Smith said its rigged and called Buccs and array winning it. I'm thinking Buccs Rams is preview for rigged superbowl because Brady is goat ram and he goes undefeated and wins superbowl. I can't see how Brady doesn't get to beat Rams but let me know your opinion 

     
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     BENNY CUNNIGHAM AND DWIGHT SMITH ALSO SAID NFL IS RIGGED ALONG WITH ALL THE NBA REFS WHO CAME OUT AND NFL REFS WHO YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO BE SO NAIVE NOT TO SEE IT.

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     BENNY CUNNIGHAM AND DWIGHT SMITH ALSO SAID NFL IS RIGGED ALONG WITH ALL THE NBA REFS WHO CAME OUT AND NFL REFS WHO YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO BE SO NAIVE NOT TO SEE IT.

     
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     I'm so glad some ppl finally see the NFL is rigged. I predict eventually sports will cave. Prolly baseball first, then basketball then football I'm USA. You will see more and more empty stadiums after this year. Covid was all part of the master plan. Keep ppl locked up for a year so they go nuts buying everything the year after

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     I'm so glad some ppl finally see the NFL is rigged. I predict eventually sports will cave. Prolly baseball first, then basketball then football I'm USA. You will see more and more empty stadiums after this year. Covid was all part of the master plan. Keep ppl locked up for a year so they go nuts buying everything the year after

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2021 - 3:06 AM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by PipeDreaming:

    @ScriptedTheater  Hey brother I believe you man. Ever since I saw Larry Johnson former chiefs running back say NFL is rigged I stopped watching and then Dwight Smith said its rigged and called Buccs and array winning it. I'm thinking Buccs Rams is preview for rigged superbowl because Brady is goat ram and he goes undefeated and wins superbowl. I can't see how Brady doesn't get to beat Rams but let me know your opinion
     

    I hope you meant the conference championship.

    Nfc..same conference

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    @ScriptedTheater  Hey brother I believe you man. Ever since I saw Larry Johnson former chiefs running back say NFL is rigged I stopped watching and then Dwight Smith said its rigged and called Buccs and array winning it. I'm thinking Buccs Rams is preview for rigged superbowl because Brady is goat ram and he goes undefeated and wins superbowl. I can't see how Brady doesn't get to beat Rams but let me know your opinion
     

    I hope you meant the conference championship.

    Nfc..same conference

     
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    This thread is hilarious.   People arguing like old ladies.   FACT.   I dont know any NFL players.   But I do know roughly a dozen former Div 1 football players.   THEY had no reason to lie when they told me this....they said they knew for a fact that many players and ASST coaches bet on college football.   When watching sports, ONE can discern when one team is less interested in winning than the other.   REFEREES involvement...same thing can be said in many cases.   We could talk about specific games like last years Pittsburgh/Cleveland NFL playoff game.   Ball snapped way over Big Ben's head and he didnt seem too interested in going after the ball. In fact, he looked like he waited to try only after Cleveland had the ball recovered.  Bad acting...if you ask me.   My opinion.   IF you choose to believe otherwise, Im not going to insult your intelligence.   ME? I learned from that Notre Dame/Colorado Orange Bowl Game when Rocket Ismail returned that punt for a td(he was 20 yds in the clear when the flag came out).   ITs on Youtube....watch it....along with the other things I mentioned including Michael Jordan's "retirement speech" and make you own choice.

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    This thread is hilarious.   People arguing like old ladies.   FACT.   I dont know any NFL players.   But I do know roughly a dozen former Div 1 football players.   THEY had no reason to lie when they told me this....they said they knew for a fact that many players and ASST coaches bet on college football.   When watching sports, ONE can discern when one team is less interested in winning than the other.   REFEREES involvement...same thing can be said in many cases.   We could talk about specific games like last years Pittsburgh/Cleveland NFL playoff game.   Ball snapped way over Big Ben's head and he didnt seem too interested in going after the ball. In fact, he looked like he waited to try only after Cleveland had the ball recovered.  Bad acting...if you ask me.   My opinion.   IF you choose to believe otherwise, Im not going to insult your intelligence.   ME? I learned from that Notre Dame/Colorado Orange Bowl Game when Rocket Ismail returned that punt for a td(he was 20 yds in the clear when the flag came out).   ITs on Youtube....watch it....along with the other things I mentioned including Michael Jordan's "retirement speech" and make you own choice.

     
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    I've always thought that sometimes the Refs were told to help keep it close in some games so viewers stay tuned in ( Take a look at all of the primetime games this season ) ..Sure the lions eventually lost by 18 , but they led at halftimen..

    The players are likely clueless about what's going on , If there is shakiness going on the league knows the players would definitely let the cat out of the bag ..

     

    Little strange that holding calls were down last season to 543 from 903 and 881 the years before ..Wonder if it had anything to do with the league trying to get a new massive TV/streaming deal ?? 

     

    Have to wonder why a Bazillion dollar league would hire Tony Corrente who was fired for making numerous dubious calls by the pac 12  ??? 

     

     

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    I've always thought that sometimes the Refs were told to help keep it close in some games so viewers stay tuned in ( Take a look at all of the primetime games this season ) ..Sure the lions eventually lost by 18 , but they led at halftimen..

    The players are likely clueless about what's going on , If there is shakiness going on the league knows the players would definitely let the cat out of the bag ..

     

    Little strange that holding calls were down last season to 543 from 903 and 881 the years before ..Wonder if it had anything to do with the league trying to get a new massive TV/streaming deal ?? 

     

    Have to wonder why a Bazillion dollar league would hire Tony Corrente who was fired for making numerous dubious calls by the pac 12  ??? 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2021 - 11:36 AM ET #96

    I like threads like these, it helps identify who the insane people in this forum are.

    Carry on Mongoloids

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    I like threads like these, it helps identify who the insane people in this forum are.

    Carry on Mongoloids

     
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    Best thread!! So much ignorance and intelligence in one spot! Bahaha

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    Best thread!! So much ignorance and intelligence in one spot! Bahaha

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    I like threads like these, it helps identify who the insane people in this forum are. Carry on Mongoloids

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     I know right? Its like teasing a kittykat with some fresh catnip, they go absolutely insane for it everytime...it never gets boring to them...theyre so cute when they get all riled up over parsley and herbs nicely fixxed together an_roll_laugh 

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:

    I like threads like these, it helps identify who the insane people in this forum are. Carry on Mongoloids

    @EastsideBangers

     I know right? Its like teasing a kittykat with some fresh catnip, they go absolutely insane for it everytime...it never gets boring to them...theyre so cute when they get all riled up over parsley and herbs nicely fixxed together an_roll_laugh 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by carl42:

    But, chic, YOU are exposing them. Why are they not shutting you up? They are making all these guys be quiet.  One day, you will step out of your double wide, hop on your moped for a trip to grab a 30 pack of Natty Ice, and you may disappear. What will Aunt Mom do without you? I'm not sure wearing your Batman underwear will save you.

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    But, chic, YOU are exposing them. Why are they not shutting you up? They are making all these guys be quiet.  One day, you will step out of your double wide, hop on your moped for a trip to grab a 30 pack of Natty Ice, and you may disappear. What will Aunt Mom do without you? I'm not sure wearing your Batman underwear will save you.

    an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2021 - 12:44 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    This probably the last year for all sports anyway

    Please explain!  If you’re correct, your credibility would fuck’n skyrocket!  Just imagine. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:

    This probably the last year for all sports anyway

    Please explain!  If you’re correct, your credibility would fuck’n skyrocket!  Just imagine. 

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