Lol...like I said previously if you cut down marino and kelly for not winning superbowls..you have no knowledge of football, it is a total team sport, you can only lift your teams play, you can't make them a champion.
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Lol...like I said previously if you cut down marino and kelly for not winning superbowls..you have no knowledge of football, it is a total team sport, you can only lift your teams play, you can't make them a champion.
Not spot on. How in the hell can you say that If Favre was black he would be T.O.? What has T.O. done? Favre is a record setting QB with a RING. T.O isn't a top 10 all time receiver, however Favre is a top 5 all-time QB. I don't see any correlation here. To say the Jets and Packers think he was a poison pill is a bit much. He wasn't making "TO like" headlines when on those teams, especially the coaches telling the press this...
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Not spot on. How in the hell can you say that If Favre was black he would be T.O.? What has T.O. done? Favre is a record setting QB with a RING. T.O isn't a top 10 all time receiver, however Favre is a top 5 all-time QB. I don't see any correlation here. To say the Jets and Packers think he was a poison pill is a bit much. He wasn't making "TO like" headlines when on those teams, especially the coaches telling the press this...
Being a guy who will help a rookie, and not giving extra time to help, are 2 different things.
How would the Jets feel considering when they had him, a crap team all of a sudden was 8-3 when he was there (not hurt) and 8-3 just beating the best team in the league on the road.
By retiring and not just going to the Vikes, he also saved them money, so....Thank You?
How dare he hold them hostage? So unlike Revis doing to the Jets?
Funny, no one brought up the color of his skin when he wanted to be paid?
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NOW you have officially went to idiot status.
Yeah, he's TO and a cancer.
Being a guy who will help a rookie, and not giving extra time to help, are 2 different things.
How would the Jets feel considering when they had him, a crap team all of a sudden was 8-3 when he was there (not hurt) and 8-3 just beating the best team in the league on the road.
By retiring and not just going to the Vikes, he also saved them money, so....Thank You?
How dare he hold them hostage? So unlike Revis doing to the Jets?
Funny, no one brought up the color of his skin when he wanted to be paid?
Lol...like I said previously if you cut down marino and kelly for not winning superbowls..you have no knowledge of football, it is a total team sport, you can only lift your teams play, you can't make them a champion.
. Anybody who cuts down Dan Marino for not winning a superbowl is a COMPLETE NUT. The guy was marvelous in the 4th quarter and brought the Fins MANY VICTORIES. It was not his fault that they never provided a good defense or solid RB for Marino in his prime. Marino also went up against the greatest QB of all time IMO in his solo appearance. Don't fault him for losing to Montana.
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Quote Originally Posted by carj:
Lol...like I said previously if you cut down marino and kelly for not winning superbowls..you have no knowledge of football, it is a total team sport, you can only lift your teams play, you can't make them a champion.
. Anybody who cuts down Dan Marino for not winning a superbowl is a COMPLETE NUT. The guy was marvelous in the 4th quarter and brought the Fins MANY VICTORIES. It was not his fault that they never provided a good defense or solid RB for Marino in his prime. Marino also went up against the greatest QB of all time IMO in his solo appearance. Don't fault him for losing to Montana.
. Anybody who cuts down Dan Marino for not winning a superbowl is a COMPLETE NUT. The guy was marvelous in the 4th quarter and brought the Fins MANY VICTORIES. It was not his fault that they never provided a good defense or solid RB for Marino in his prime. Marino also went up against the greatest QB of all time IMO in his solo appearance. Don't fault him for losing to Montana.
8-10 in the playoffs isn't too good. He was a good qb, just not one of the best.
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Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:
. Anybody who cuts down Dan Marino for not winning a superbowl is a COMPLETE NUT. The guy was marvelous in the 4th quarter and brought the Fins MANY VICTORIES. It was not his fault that they never provided a good defense or solid RB for Marino in his prime. Marino also went up against the greatest QB of all time IMO in his solo appearance. Don't fault him for losing to Montana.
8-10 in the playoffs isn't too good. He was a good qb, just not one of the best.
I'll say that Marino didn't always have a good defense, but I think the running game was partly his fault because he would rather pass on 3rd and 2 than run. It's not just a coicidence that a scrub name Abul Jabbar was a 1000 yard rusher when they did hand off.
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I'll say that Marino didn't always have a good defense, but I think the running game was partly his fault because he would rather pass on 3rd and 2 than run. It's not just a coicidence that a scrub name Abul Jabbar was a 1000 yard rusher when they did hand off.
We also should give kelly his due, 4 superbowl appearances in a row and loses to very very good football teams. He also got them in position for a fg to win....a loss is a loss but sometimes the ball just doesn't fall for you.
The Broncos totally changed the way they played offense and Elway ended up with two superbowls, it is a team sport.
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We also should give kelly his due, 4 superbowl appearances in a row and loses to very very good football teams. He also got them in position for a fg to win....a loss is a loss but sometimes the ball just doesn't fall for you.
The Broncos totally changed the way they played offense and Elway ended up with two superbowls, it is a team sport.
I'll say that Marino didn't always have a good defense, but I think the running game was partly his fault because he would rather pass on 3rd and 2 than run. It's not just a coicidence that a scrub name Abul Jabbar was a 1000 yard rusher when they did hand off.
They are saying manning is one of the greatest ever and in his one superbowl run, he had 3 tds and 7 intercepetions....it is a team sport and you need help from your team. The New England defense has given brady a lot of help.
Elway didn't win till his team played better.
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Quote Originally Posted by wickedj:
I'll say that Marino didn't always have a good defense, but I think the running game was partly his fault because he would rather pass on 3rd and 2 than run. It's not just a coicidence that a scrub name Abul Jabbar was a 1000 yard rusher when they did hand off.
They are saying manning is one of the greatest ever and in his one superbowl run, he had 3 tds and 7 intercepetions....it is a team sport and you need help from your team. The New England defense has given brady a lot of help.
I love it when people try to bring up the whole "he didn't help Rodgers his rookie season" routine.
First of all, it is not his job. Secondly, and most importantly, what people don't bring up is that Rodgers was pretty much hated by everybody on the Packer team his rookie season because he came in with a Dez Bryant type of cocky attitude, disrespecting all the veterans. So it was not only Favre who was staying away from Rodgers in 2005, but pretty much the whole team.
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I love it when people try to bring up the whole "he didn't help Rodgers his rookie season" routine.
First of all, it is not his job. Secondly, and most importantly, what people don't bring up is that Rodgers was pretty much hated by everybody on the Packer team his rookie season because he came in with a Dez Bryant type of cocky attitude, disrespecting all the veterans. So it was not only Favre who was staying away from Rodgers in 2005, but pretty much the whole team.
Good topic, and yeah, if Favre were black, the slant on this whole charade (and that's exactly what it is) would be vastly different than it presently is.
Let's face it, the sports world is not filled with intelligent people. In fact, the industry itself (media included) couldn't be more dummied down than it is.
Therefore, the idiots do the easy thing and resort to silly, invalid cliches to make comments. For example from basketball, "yeah, this kid (black) has got raw athletic talent, tremendous leaping ability, excellent one on one moves. But then this kid (white) is a poor man's overachiever, smart, heady player, kind of kid you want on the line when the game is in the balance." You get the same sort of asinine comments all the time. Why? Cause it's easy for the dipsh-t announcer.
Other inane comments:
"crafty left-hander" and "possession receiver."
Tedious, tiresome and nauseating. Precisely why the TV is usually mute when a game is on.
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Good topic, and yeah, if Favre were black, the slant on this whole charade (and that's exactly what it is) would be vastly different than it presently is.
Let's face it, the sports world is not filled with intelligent people. In fact, the industry itself (media included) couldn't be more dummied down than it is.
Therefore, the idiots do the easy thing and resort to silly, invalid cliches to make comments. For example from basketball, "yeah, this kid (black) has got raw athletic talent, tremendous leaping ability, excellent one on one moves. But then this kid (white) is a poor man's overachiever, smart, heady player, kind of kid you want on the line when the game is in the balance." You get the same sort of asinine comments all the time. Why? Cause it's easy for the dipsh-t announcer.
Other inane comments:
"crafty left-hander" and "possession receiver."
Tedious, tiresome and nauseating. Precisely why the TV is usually mute when a game is on.
He would be T.O. and considered a cancer to a team and the locker room...
Farve's history in GB is that he was not supportive of Rodgers and grooming him and being a team player...
I wonder what the NYJ organization and locker room has to say about farve...
and what he is doing to MIN as an organization, basically holding them hostage is disgraceful...
No you idiot, if Favre was black it would all be the same. Because he would still have his same amazing stats. He would also be crowned the "first black QB to.." blah blah blah. Your probably one of those people who think those who opose Obama's views are rascist.
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
If Farve was black....
He would be T.O. and considered a cancer to a team and the locker room...
Farve's history in GB is that he was not supportive of Rodgers and grooming him and being a team player...
I wonder what the NYJ organization and locker room has to say about farve...
and what he is doing to MIN as an organization, basically holding them hostage is disgraceful...
No you idiot, if Favre was black it would all be the same. Because he would still have his same amazing stats. He would also be crowned the "first black QB to.." blah blah blah. Your probably one of those people who think those who opose Obama's views are rascist.
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