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    IS DEN -7.0 A TRAP???

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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:20 PM ET #51

    Scandrick matches up well with welker. Held him to like 40 yds last hear in foxborough. Only thing I'm worried about is how the Dallas interior o-line holds up against denvers big dts. But Leary and waters match up well against the tackles, as they play with power more than speed. And selvie might be out, so that worries me..but kiffin has gotten these no name players to step up on offense I expect more of the same.

    And about mannin practicing against the Tampa 2 for years....this cowboys defense is a different variation of that defense..more like the Seattle defense. But I feel Monte will mix it up to keep manning guessing. Sean lee is the Peyton manning of cowboys defense , and he had 2 picks against manning last time he played them.

    Cowboys ml and +7 for me
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    Scandrick matches up well with welker. Held him to like 40 yds last hear in foxborough. Only thing I'm worried about is how the Dallas interior o-line holds up against denvers big dts. But Leary and waters match up well against the tackles, as they play with power more than speed. And selvie might be out, so that worries me..but kiffin has gotten these no name players to step up on offense I expect more of the same.

    And about mannin practicing against the Tampa 2 for years....this cowboys defense is a different variation of that defense..more like the Seattle defense. But I feel Monte will mix it up to keep manning guessing. Sean lee is the Peyton manning of cowboys defense , and he had 2 picks against manning last time he played them.

    Cowboys ml and +7 for me
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:21 PM ET #52

    *step up on defense...damn phones autocorrect
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:33 PM ET #53

    Based on the situation I think this is a no play... the only side I can make an argument for betting is Dallas... and I don't want to bet against Denver right now, so I say no play...
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    Based on the situation I think this is a no play... the only side I can make an argument for betting is Dallas... and I don't want to bet against Denver right now, so I say no play...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:34 PM ET #54

    The key to beating this Denver team will be putting pressure on Manning... Dallas is one of the few teams that can do that effectively...
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    The key to beating this Denver team will be putting pressure on Manning... Dallas is one of the few teams that can do that effectively...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 1:45 PM ET #55

    Lets pretend the lines are set to create equal action.

    Lets keep the debate going,cause its a decent thread.
    Why isnt this game 10 ?

    Cause the majority of ATS money ,80% at the line service I look at is on Denver.

    Whys this line not higher ?
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    Lets pretend the lines are set to create equal action.

    Lets keep the debate going,cause its a decent thread.
    Why isnt this game 10 ?

    Cause the majority of ATS money ,80% at the line service I look at is on Denver.

    Whys this line not higher ?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:02 PM ET #56

    I think I seen that the line opened Denver -3. It's up to 7.5 in my book. If it went to 10 that would b a pretty Significant jump. Haven't seen a line move 7 whole pts in NFL before .
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    I think I seen that the line opened Denver -3. It's up to 7.5 in my book. If it went to 10 that would b a pretty Significant jump. Haven't seen a line move 7 whole pts in NFL before .
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:14 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by ysaelee87:

    I think I seen that the line opened Denver -3. It's up to 7.5 in my book. If it went to 10 that would b a pretty Significant jump. Haven't seen a line move 7 whole pts in NFL before .
    'The open was 5.5,maybe some obscure site had diff but the world opener was 5.5
    Stevie wonder could see that line wouldnt create equal action,-7 isnt creating equal action .... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ysaelee87:

    I think I seen that the line opened Denver -3. It's up to 7.5 in my book. If it went to 10 that would b a pretty Significant jump. Haven't seen a line move 7 whole pts in NFL before .
    'The open was 5.5,maybe some obscure site had diff but the world opener was 5.5
    Stevie wonder could see that line wouldnt create equal action,-7 isnt creating equal action .... 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:24 PM ET #58

    i live in denver and this town is bronco crazy right now.  the line has jumped from -7 to -8.5.  broncos starting lb was injured in practice yesterday and looks bad.  i don't think their defense is great, they have the mentality that they don't have to be great because manning will put up 40+ every game.  similar to the defense in indi when manning was there.  for dallas to stay in this game, they MUST pressure manning.  problem is, welker runs those 5 yard crossing patterns and nobody in the league has ever been able to stop it vs. the blitz.  here is how i am playing it:  i bought down denver to -6.5 -130.  to hedge it, i am teasing dallas +14.5 and over 50.  good shot to hit the middle, this should be a track meet. 
    Event 1: Denver Broncos at Dallas Cowboys
    Play Time: 2013-10-06 16:25
    Selection: Denver to win
    Odds: Buy Points Point Spread (-6.5) -130
    Bet Type: Buy Points Point Spread
    Bought Points: 1.0
    Point Cost: $0.30
    Bet Odds: -130
    Bet Amount: $325.00
    Bet Payout: $575.00
    Won Amount: Wager Pending
    Time Placed: 2013-10-01 01:33:18

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    i live in denver and this town is bronco crazy right now.  the line has jumped from -7 to -8.5.  broncos starting lb was injured in practice yesterday and looks bad.  i don't think their defense is great, they have the mentality that they don't have to be great because manning will put up 40+ every game.  similar to the defense in indi when manning was there.  for dallas to stay in this game, they MUST pressure manning.  problem is, welker runs those 5 yard crossing patterns and nobody in the league has ever been able to stop it vs. the blitz.  here is how i am playing it:  i bought down denver to -6.5 -130.  to hedge it, i am teasing dallas +14.5 and over 50.  good shot to hit the middle, this should be a track meet. 
    Event 1: Denver Broncos at Dallas Cowboys
    Play Time: 2013-10-06 16:25
    Selection: Denver to win
    Odds: Buy Points Point Spread (-6.5) -130
    Bet Type: Buy Points Point Spread
    Bought Points: 1.0
    Point Cost: $0.30
    Bet Odds: -130
    Bet Amount: $325.00
    Bet Payout: $575.00
    Won Amount: Wager Pending
    Time Placed: 2013-10-01 01:33:18

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:28 PM ET #59

    How is the bet amount $325.00 and if you win, payout is $575.00 ?


    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat95:

    i live in denver and this town is bronco crazy right now.  the line has jumped from -7 to -8.5.  broncos starting lb was injured in practice yesterday and looks bad.  i don't think their defense is great, they have the mentality that they don't have to be great because manning will put up 40+ every game.  similar to the defense in indi when manning was there.  for dallas to stay in this game, they MUST pressure manning.  problem is, welker runs those 5 yard crossing patterns and nobody in the league has ever been able to stop it vs. the blitz.  here is how i am playing it:  i bought down denver to -6.5 -130.  to hedge it, i am teasing dallas +14.5 and over 50.  good shot to hit the middle, this should be a track meet. 
    Event 1: Denver Broncos at Dallas Cowboys
    Play Time: 2013-10-06 16:25
    Selection: Denver to win
    Odds: Buy Points Point Spread (-6.5) -130
    Bet Type: Buy Points Point Spread
    Bought Points: 1.0
    Point Cost: $0.30
    Bet Odds: -130
    Bet Amount: $325.00
    Bet Payout: $575.00
    Won Amount: Wager Pending
    Time Placed: 2013-10-01 01:33:18

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    How is the bet amount $325.00 and if you win, payout is $575.00 ?


    Quote Originally Posted by wildcat95:

    i live in denver and this town is bronco crazy right now.  the line has jumped from -7 to -8.5.  broncos starting lb was injured in practice yesterday and looks bad.  i don't think their defense is great, they have the mentality that they don't have to be great because manning will put up 40+ every game.  similar to the defense in indi when manning was there.  for dallas to stay in this game, they MUST pressure manning.  problem is, welker runs those 5 yard crossing patterns and nobody in the league has ever been able to stop it vs. the blitz.  here is how i am playing it:  i bought down denver to -6.5 -130.  to hedge it, i am teasing dallas +14.5 and over 50.  good shot to hit the middle, this should be a track meet. 
    Event 1: Denver Broncos at Dallas Cowboys
    Play Time: 2013-10-06 16:25
    Selection: Denver to win
    Odds: Buy Points Point Spread (-6.5) -130
    Bet Type: Buy Points Point Spread
    Bought Points: 1.0
    Point Cost: $0.30
    Bet Odds: -130
    Bet Amount: $325.00
    Bet Payout: $575.00
    Won Amount: Wager Pending
    Time Placed: 2013-10-01 01:33:18

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:33 PM ET #60



    Denver may be a trap, but the over isn't.
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    Denver may be a trap, but the over isn't.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 2:40 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by noobcapper4:



    $575 including the stake.  juice was -130 so $325 to win $250.  6pt teaser will be -110 so i will prob lay $165 to win $150.  something tells me the cowboys will be prepared, should stay within 2 tds.
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    $575 including the stake.  juice was -130 so $325 to win $250.  6pt teaser will be -110 so i will prob lay $165 to win $150.  something tells me the cowboys will be prepared, should stay within 2 tds.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:43 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by weeks:

    Lets pretend the lines are set to create equal action.

    Lets keep the debate going,cause its a decent thread.
    Why isnt this game 10 ?

    Cause the majority of ATS money ,80% at the line service I look at is on Denver.

    Whys this line not higher ?

    That was my point at the start of the thread!! At 7.0 - 8.5 that wont create the 50/50 that vegas wants. It might go even higher. When i saw it at 7 it made me think "trap". But i really do feel confident in Denver. The over might be a really good play too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeks:

    Lets pretend the lines are set to create equal action.

    Lets keep the debate going,cause its a decent thread.
    Why isnt this game 10 ?

    Cause the majority of ATS money ,80% at the line service I look at is on Denver.

    Whys this line not higher ?

    That was my point at the start of the thread!! At 7.0 - 8.5 that wont create the 50/50 that vegas wants. It might go even higher. When i saw it at 7 it made me think "trap". But i really do feel confident in Denver. The over might be a really good play too.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2013 - 5:50 PM ET #63

    I agree,tho I dont believe in "traps"..books dont always want equal action.
    This could of opened 10 and they still would of had more than 50% Denver action,makes no sense.
    Just look at this thread,the majority all over Denver,10 wouldnt have stopped most of them.
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    I agree,tho I dont believe in "traps"..books dont always want equal action.
    This could of opened 10 and they still would of had more than 50% Denver action,makes no sense.
    Just look at this thread,the majority all over Denver,10 wouldnt have stopped most of them.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 12:51 PM ET #64

    agreed.  i will have lots of teasers with dall +14.5 keyed.
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    agreed.  i will have lots of teasers with dall +14.5 keyed.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 1:32 PM ET #65

    Denver is on a 15-game regular season winning streak, with the closest win being by 7 points.
    The temptation is to ride Denver until it breaks, but this could be the place where the points are too many. We shall see.
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    Denver is on a 15-game regular season winning streak, with the closest win being by 7 points.
    The temptation is to ride Denver until it breaks, but this could be the place where the points are too many. We shall see.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 3:13 PM ET #66

    In My Opinion this is the best bet of the weekend 
    Two pick 6pt tease…
    (Ncaa) Miami FL - 1/2 pt
    Denver - 1
    Bet all the money you are willing to risk this weekend and double it up.
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    In My Opinion this is the best bet of the weekend 
    Two pick 6pt tease…
    (Ncaa) Miami FL - 1/2 pt
    Denver - 1
    Bet all the money you are willing to risk this weekend and double it up.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 3:17 PM ET #67

    You could also throw in georgia state at + 60 1/2, I am a big alabama fan and have ridden them for a few years now… They're offense isn't built to put up that many points regardless…
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    You could also throw in georgia state at + 60 1/2, I am a big alabama fan and have ridden them for a few years now… They're offense isn't built to put up that many points regardless…
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 3:19 PM ET #68

    Ride Denver all the way to the bank this whole season! You'll win moe then you lose.
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 3:31 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by letsgoooo:

    No....like seriously!!! They've been winning by at least 15 since week 1 so the average person would stare at the 7 and think its easy money....right??? And vegas throws a bone once in a while but this almost seems too good to be true!!! Would appreciate feedback

    Dude, depends on how the ball bounces on Sunday. Vegas sets the lines. Not like they think....oooo, this will be a total trap. Broncos could win by 24 and I not be as shocked as the Cowboys winning. Just see how it goes.
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    No....like seriously!!! They've been winning by at least 15 since week 1 so the average person would stare at the 7 and think its easy money....right??? And vegas throws a bone once in a while but this almost seems too good to be true!!! Would appreciate feedback

    Dude, depends on how the ball bounces on Sunday. Vegas sets the lines. Not like they think....oooo, this will be a total trap. Broncos could win by 24 and I not be as shocked as the Cowboys winning. Just see how it goes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:02 PM ET #70

    Peyton throws for 6 tds easy broncos win 52 -27.  Cowboys have Monte kiffin as there d coordinator.  Kiffin came up with the Tampa 2 defense while being the d coordinator under Dungy in tampa bay . When Dungy went to the colts he brought all his knowledge of the Tampa 2 defense. Peyton Manning knows everything there is to know about this defense he went against it for many years in practice. 

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    Peyton throws for 6 tds easy broncos win 52 -27.  Cowboys have Monte kiffin as there d coordinator.  Kiffin came up with the Tampa 2 defense while being the d coordinator under Dungy in tampa bay . When Dungy went to the colts he brought all his knowledge of the Tampa 2 defense. Peyton Manning knows everything there is to know about this defense he went against it for many years in practice. 

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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:26 PM ET #71

    Chicago went to Pitt and everyone was on the Pitt bandwagon at +2. Chicago easily should of been -7. Denver should be -13.5/-14 on the road. Jump on it now while it's still a gift. Starting next week you won't see Denver as single digit favorites anymore.
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    Chicago went to Pitt and everyone was on the Pitt bandwagon at +2. Chicago easily should of been -7. Denver should be -13.5/-14 on the road. Jump on it now while it's still a gift. Starting next week you won't see Denver as single digit favorites anymore.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:30 PM ET #72

    I think sometimes, people 2nd guess too much, 7.0 is not big line in this game.

    I expected at least 8.5, maybe even 10.0. Dallas are continually over bet and overrated, i'm not saying this is a lock, there's no such thing. But to me, 7.0 is a better than average bet.
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    I think sometimes, people 2nd guess too much, 7.0 is not big line in this game.

    I expected at least 8.5, maybe even 10.0. Dallas are continually over bet and overrated, i'm not saying this is a lock, there's no such thing. But to me, 7.0 is a better than average bet.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:34 PM ET #73

    Is this for real...!? I would've pick them against the spread if it would've been at -14...! its not a trap! its a present! take advantage, really..! check out this website, its very cool, about predictions and stuff spicyodds.com
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    Is this for real...!? I would've pick them against the spread if it would've been at -14...! its not a trap! its a present! take advantage, really..! check out this website, its very cool, about predictions and stuff spicyodds.com
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:42 PM ET #74

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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2013 - 4:47 PM ET #75

    I am seeing Denver -9, where you getting this -7 nonsense at?
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    I am seeing Denver -9, where you getting this -7 nonsense at?
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