Week 17. TB has to lose to secure the #1 pick. TEN has to lose for a shot at getting the #1 pick just in case TB is stupid enough to win. But they still have to lose to secure the #2 pick. JAC has to lose to stay at #3.
NO will want to end their horrible season on a high note, but the -4 is scary. This reminds me of last year when HOU needed to lose to TEN to secure the #1 pick. TEN was favored by 7 and HOU lost the game, but covered the line. HOU at home, will finish the season off strong against the Jags. A little worried about IND benching all their starters because they are locked into that 4 seed whether they win or lose. Why risk throwing Luck out there and risking an injury right before the playoffs?
Still, these ML plays are more about betting against TB, TEN, and JAC instead of betting on NO, IND and HOU. They have to lose to secure their draft positions. I can't envision any of them brainfarting just to get an extra W and potentially dropping down to 5 or 6 with the Raiders Jets and Skins right behind them.
TB and TEN are both 2-13, but because of the SOS%, TB gets the #1 pick. JAC OAK and NYJ are all 3-12 with JAC edging them out for the #3 pick. DEN has to win to secure the 2 seed for the 1st round bye so I would throw the house on DEN ML if I could. NYJ will most likely lose to MIA, but they may also try to win for Rex before he gets fired, so I'm staying off that one. Either way, TB and TEN will want to secure the top 2 picks to grab the QBs that they need and Jac will not risk getting bumped down to 4 or 5 just for an extra win, especially when the game is in Houston.
Last year I threw $5000 on TEN ML to win $1500
Of course anything can happen and nothing is 100%, but I'm liking this situation play. Are any of those coaches stupid enough to win the game at the expense of a top3 pick in next year's draft?
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NO ML -200
IND ML -300
HOU ML -525
Week 17. TB has to lose to secure the #1 pick. TEN has to lose for a shot at getting the #1 pick just in case TB is stupid enough to win. But they still have to lose to secure the #2 pick. JAC has to lose to stay at #3.
NO will want to end their horrible season on a high note, but the -4 is scary. This reminds me of last year when HOU needed to lose to TEN to secure the #1 pick. TEN was favored by 7 and HOU lost the game, but covered the line. HOU at home, will finish the season off strong against the Jags. A little worried about IND benching all their starters because they are locked into that 4 seed whether they win or lose. Why risk throwing Luck out there and risking an injury right before the playoffs?
Still, these ML plays are more about betting against TB, TEN, and JAC instead of betting on NO, IND and HOU. They have to lose to secure their draft positions. I can't envision any of them brainfarting just to get an extra W and potentially dropping down to 5 or 6 with the Raiders Jets and Skins right behind them.
TB and TEN are both 2-13, but because of the SOS%, TB gets the #1 pick. JAC OAK and NYJ are all 3-12 with JAC edging them out for the #3 pick. DEN has to win to secure the 2 seed for the 1st round bye so I would throw the house on DEN ML if I could. NYJ will most likely lose to MIA, but they may also try to win for Rex before he gets fired, so I'm staying off that one. Either way, TB and TEN will want to secure the top 2 picks to grab the QBs that they need and Jac will not risk getting bumped down to 4 or 5 just for an extra win, especially when the game is in Houston.
Last year I threw $5000 on TEN ML to win $1500
Of course anything can happen and nothing is 100%, but I'm liking this situation play. Are any of those coaches stupid enough to win the game at the expense of a top3 pick in next year's draft?
I wish you the best of luck, but I wouldn't trust New Orleans at all....Despite the Bucs terrible record, they have actually been in a lot of games this year. They have some really good wide receivers and really just need a good QB to be good next year. Doubt the Saints will be super fired up for this one since their season is over.
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I wish you the best of luck, but I wouldn't trust New Orleans at all....Despite the Bucs terrible record, they have actually been in a lot of games this year. They have some really good wide receivers and really just need a good QB to be good next year. Doubt the Saints will be super fired up for this one since their season is over.
Why not take the under 46.5 since neither team has anything to play for. Colts are gonna rest most of their starters and the Titans are down right horrible offensively and they want a chance at the number one pick. I think we see a lot of 3 and outs and field goals.
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Why not take the under 46.5 since neither team has anything to play for. Colts are gonna rest most of their starters and the Titans are down right horrible offensively and they want a chance at the number one pick. I think we see a lot of 3 and outs and field goals.
I wish you the best of luck, but I wouldn't trust New Orleans at all....Despite the Bucs terrible record, they have actually been in a lot of games this year. They have some really good wide receivers and really just need a good QB to be good next year. Doubt the Saints will be super fired up for this one since their season is over.
This is true. If this were any week other than week 17 and the fact that TB needs to lose this week to keep their #1 pick, I would not be on NO. But one team wants to finish their ugly season right, and one team wants to lose. Do the math.
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Quote Originally Posted by tsc4280:
I wish you the best of luck, but I wouldn't trust New Orleans at all....Despite the Bucs terrible record, they have actually been in a lot of games this year. They have some really good wide receivers and really just need a good QB to be good next year. Doubt the Saints will be super fired up for this one since their season is over.
This is true. If this were any week other than week 17 and the fact that TB needs to lose this week to keep their #1 pick, I would not be on NO. But one team wants to finish their ugly season right, and one team wants to lose. Do the math.
The players play for their jobs and their personal stats that they use to bargain their contracts with
in some cases sacks tackles or yards can mean bonuses ,
NFL players sure as hell don't play for draft picks to come in to replace them it's really nonsense
NFL players don't play for draft picks, but you can be damn sure management knows and that will be relayed down to the coaches. You can be damn sure the fans will know too. They might start booing the team if they get out to a lead. Winning the game may be the difference between the #1 pick and the #5 pick.
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Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:
The players play for their jobs and their personal stats that they use to bargain their contracts with
in some cases sacks tackles or yards can mean bonuses ,
NFL players sure as hell don't play for draft picks to come in to replace them it's really nonsense
NFL players don't play for draft picks, but you can be damn sure management knows and that will be relayed down to the coaches. You can be damn sure the fans will know too. They might start booing the team if they get out to a lead. Winning the game may be the difference between the #1 pick and the #5 pick.
NFL players don't play for draft picks, but you can be damn sure management knows and that will be relayed down to the coaches. You can be damn sure the fans will know too. They might start booing the team if they get out to a lead. Winning the game may be the difference between the #1 pick and the #5 pick.
Poppycock. Tennessee is the only team that has "given up" this season. When their o-line fell apart about 5 weeks ago, that was it for them. Tampa and Jacksonville will play to win for many reasons. Both rivalry games, both revenge spots from earlier this season, both looking for something to build on going into the offseason with teams full of young guys. Especially Jacksonville, one of the youngest teams in the league. No chance they don't give it their all to effectively end Houston's playoff run. I know it's week 17 and you're looking for the big score before the season ends, but this isn't the way to do it.
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Quote Originally Posted by Lefty1981:
NFL players don't play for draft picks, but you can be damn sure management knows and that will be relayed down to the coaches. You can be damn sure the fans will know too. They might start booing the team if they get out to a lead. Winning the game may be the difference between the #1 pick and the #5 pick.
Poppycock. Tennessee is the only team that has "given up" this season. When their o-line fell apart about 5 weeks ago, that was it for them. Tampa and Jacksonville will play to win for many reasons. Both rivalry games, both revenge spots from earlier this season, both looking for something to build on going into the offseason with teams full of young guys. Especially Jacksonville, one of the youngest teams in the league. No chance they don't give it their all to effectively end Houston's playoff run. I know it's week 17 and you're looking for the big score before the season ends, but this isn't the way to do it.
True. I'm not liking NO. They screwed me during their 3 game homestand and then screwed me in PIT when I bet against them. But this is more about betting against TB. If Anyone else were playing against TB, I'd be on them as well.
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Quote Originally Posted by gmitran:
I'd stay away from NO, not good all yr and just lost their SB last wk so no idea where their heads are.
Indy won't rest their starters after the beating they took last wk and Pagano doesn't believe in resting. They've own Ten, winning 11 of 12.
True. I'm not liking NO. They screwed me during their 3 game homestand and then screwed me in PIT when I bet against them. But this is more about betting against TB. If Anyone else were playing against TB, I'd be on them as well.
you are better off doing something like this, pays less but these teams are playing for something!
Green Bay Packers* -350
Houston Texans* -500
Seattle Seahawks* -900
GL
Yea I've got GB and SEA in others as well. But DET and GB are playing for the 2 seed in that one. GB should win, but anything can happen in a game in which both teams are fighting to win. What if AR's tweeks his calf? What if anything happens to AR?
TB TEN and JAC shoudl be trying to lose so injuries happening to the other team wouldnt really matter when they're playing against an organization trying to lose. TB and TEN both need QBs so I believe mock drafts all have both taking Mariotta and Winston. JAC doesnt need a QB so they would be more than happy to pick at 3. But if they win, they would risk falling behind NYJ and OAK.
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Quote Originally Posted by FreeThinker_MD:
you are better off doing something like this, pays less but these teams are playing for something!
Green Bay Packers* -350
Houston Texans* -500
Seattle Seahawks* -900
GL
Yea I've got GB and SEA in others as well. But DET and GB are playing for the 2 seed in that one. GB should win, but anything can happen in a game in which both teams are fighting to win. What if AR's tweeks his calf? What if anything happens to AR?
TB TEN and JAC shoudl be trying to lose so injuries happening to the other team wouldnt really matter when they're playing against an organization trying to lose. TB and TEN both need QBs so I believe mock drafts all have both taking Mariotta and Winston. JAC doesnt need a QB so they would be more than happy to pick at 3. But if they win, they would risk falling behind NYJ and OAK.
Sure, players and coaches play to win the game, but in a multi-billion dollar industry where the difference between picking 1st and picking 2nd can have huge implications, I seriously doubt any team will jeopardize their chances of falling out of their best possible draft pick for a meaningless notch on the belt.
TB will be the laughing stock of the league if they somehow pulled out a win against NO. "Bucs lose with a win" will be the headline. All that matters now for teams like TB TEN and JAC is the future and the future starts with draft picks.
There was a situation in the NBA a few years back where GSW needed to lose their last game of the season to SAS to secure the 7th pick in the draft. If they won, the pick would go to TOR or something like that. SAS most likely knew this and he started friggin with GSW by playing his bench. GSW countered by missing layups and racking up ridiculous TOs. If a team needs to lose, they will find a way to lose.
Like I said, last year I threw $5000 to win $1500 on HOU to lose in TEN and thats exactly what happened. HOU covered the line, but Matt Schaub conveniently threw an INT to secure the L.
Going in with my last 3 weeks of winnings and added GB ML and SEA ML to the mix.
$2000 to win $4820
BOL guys
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Sure, players and coaches play to win the game, but in a multi-billion dollar industry where the difference between picking 1st and picking 2nd can have huge implications, I seriously doubt any team will jeopardize their chances of falling out of their best possible draft pick for a meaningless notch on the belt.
TB will be the laughing stock of the league if they somehow pulled out a win against NO. "Bucs lose with a win" will be the headline. All that matters now for teams like TB TEN and JAC is the future and the future starts with draft picks.
There was a situation in the NBA a few years back where GSW needed to lose their last game of the season to SAS to secure the 7th pick in the draft. If they won, the pick would go to TOR or something like that. SAS most likely knew this and he started friggin with GSW by playing his bench. GSW countered by missing layups and racking up ridiculous TOs. If a team needs to lose, they will find a way to lose.
Like I said, last year I threw $5000 to win $1500 on HOU to lose in TEN and thats exactly what happened. HOU covered the line, but Matt Schaub conveniently threw an INT to secure the L.
Going in with my last 3 weeks of winnings and added GB ML and SEA ML to the mix.
Not saying this is 100% money in the bank. If it was, I would throw the damn house on it, but Im loving the situational play for those 3 to play to lose. GB and SEA at home should be money in the bank. Add those in for some extra pocket change.
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Not saying this is 100% money in the bank. If it was, I would throw the damn house on it, but Im loving the situational play for those 3 to play to lose. GB and SEA at home should be money in the bank. Add those in for some extra pocket change.
This is true. If this were any week other than week 17 and the fact that TB needs to lose this week to keep their #1 pick, I would not be on NO. But one team wants to finish their ugly season right, and one team wants to lose. Do the math.
How's the Math working ?
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Quote Originally Posted by Lefty1981:
This is true. If this were any week other than week 17 and the fact that TB needs to lose this week to keep their #1 pick, I would not be on NO. But one team wants to finish their ugly season right, and one team wants to lose. Do the math.
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