There are gamblers that literally bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on a game, and they're are plenty of college kids that will take 5k to not play defense or take a few bad shots..
C'mon man, wake up
The League or "Vegas" doesn't fix games, people do
All the time
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There are gamblers that literally bet hundreds of thousands of dollars on a game, and they're are plenty of college kids that will take 5k to not play defense or take a few bad shots..
C'mon man, wake up
The League or "Vegas" doesn't fix games, people do
It's absurd to say the league or 100's of people are involved in scripting outcomes of games, but its even more absurd (Bk1374) to say that people don't cheat, steal or manipulate the system for personal gain.
we have been stealing, cheating and manipulating since were we monkeys in the trees
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It's absurd to say the league or 100's of people are involved in scripting outcomes of games, but its even more absurd (Bk1374) to say that people don't cheat, steal or manipulate the system for personal gain.
we have been stealing, cheating and manipulating since were we monkeys in the trees
It's absurd to say the league or 100's of people are involved in scripting outcomes of games, but its even more absurd (Bk1374) to say that people don't cheat, steal or manipulate the system for personal gain.
we have been stealing, cheating and manipulating since were we monkeys in the trees
Where did I EVER say people did not "cheat, steal or manipulate?" I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
I only brought up the NBA fixing scandal because that actually had EVIDENCE AND PROOF, that it happened. Unless these bozos that think Las Vegas, Roger Goodell, the NFL refs and Doug Baldwin are involved in some huge conspiracy to fix games (and missed tackles).
So PLEASE direct me to any post where I said people don't cheat, steal or manipulate, or even where I alluded to such an absurdity??
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Quote Originally Posted by BlackCannons:
It's absurd to say the league or 100's of people are involved in scripting outcomes of games, but its even more absurd (Bk1374) to say that people don't cheat, steal or manipulate the system for personal gain.
we have been stealing, cheating and manipulating since were we monkeys in the trees
Where did I EVER say people did not "cheat, steal or manipulate?" I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
I only brought up the NBA fixing scandal because that actually had EVIDENCE AND PROOF, that it happened. Unless these bozos that think Las Vegas, Roger Goodell, the NFL refs and Doug Baldwin are involved in some huge conspiracy to fix games (and missed tackles).
So PLEASE direct me to any post where I said people don't cheat, steal or manipulate, or even where I alluded to such an absurdity??
Where did I EVER say people did not "cheat, steal or manipulate?" I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
I only brought up the NBA fixing scandal because that actually had EVIDENCE AND PROOF, that it happened. Unlike these bozos that think Las Vegas, Roger Goodell, the NFL refs and Doug Baldwin are involved in some huge conspiracy to fix games (and missed tackles).
So PLEASE direct me to any post where I said people don't cheat, steal or manipulate, or even where I alluded to such an absurdity??
Fixed my mistake. Typing too fast.
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Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:
Where did I EVER say people did not "cheat, steal or manipulate?" I'm not even sure what you're talking about.
I only brought up the NBA fixing scandal because that actually had EVIDENCE AND PROOF, that it happened. Unlike these bozos that think Las Vegas, Roger Goodell, the NFL refs and Doug Baldwin are involved in some huge conspiracy to fix games (and missed tackles).
So PLEASE direct me to any post where I said people don't cheat, steal or manipulate, or even where I alluded to such an absurdity??
OH, AND IF YOU THINK PLAYERS ARE ABOVE IT ALL, THINK AGAIN. HERE'S A CLIP OF A PLAYER TELLING ANOTHER HOW TO "TRY" AND TACKLE HIM.
LET ME EXPLAIN, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD IDIOTS ON HERE SAY THEY SEE NOTHING ABNORMAL:
THE BALL CARRIER MAKES A THUMBS UP SIGN, INDICATING TO THE WOULD BE TACKLER TO GO HIGH. THE TACKLER DOES EXACTLY THAT, AND THE CARRIER DUCKS UNDERNEATH, 2MAKING" THE TACKLER "MISS". UH-HUH
SIMPLE 30 SECOND CLIP WHICH SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrWHwS7zTDs
If you watch the clip you will see the first defender he avoids actually pulls his arm and hand off the ball and away from his body before he avoids the second defender. Now watching the play in SloMo from the time Baldwin recieves the ball to when he avoids the second defender is approximatly 6 -7 seconds so in real time it was probably 3 seconds max.
Now you're trying to tell me the reciever and the defender had the fortitude to make and comprehend the signal during the fast pace of the play all in under a few seconds?
You Sir are delusional.
Gotta go pee!
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Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:
OH, AND IF YOU THINK PLAYERS ARE ABOVE IT ALL, THINK AGAIN. HERE'S A CLIP OF A PLAYER TELLING ANOTHER HOW TO "TRY" AND TACKLE HIM.
LET ME EXPLAIN, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD IDIOTS ON HERE SAY THEY SEE NOTHING ABNORMAL:
THE BALL CARRIER MAKES A THUMBS UP SIGN, INDICATING TO THE WOULD BE TACKLER TO GO HIGH. THE TACKLER DOES EXACTLY THAT, AND THE CARRIER DUCKS UNDERNEATH, 2MAKING" THE TACKLER "MISS". UH-HUH
SIMPLE 30 SECOND CLIP WHICH SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrWHwS7zTDs
If you watch the clip you will see the first defender he avoids actually pulls his arm and hand off the ball and away from his body before he avoids the second defender. Now watching the play in SloMo from the time Baldwin recieves the ball to when he avoids the second defender is approximatly 6 -7 seconds so in real time it was probably 3 seconds max.
Now you're trying to tell me the reciever and the defender had the fortitude to make and comprehend the signal during the fast pace of the play all in under a few seconds?
First off, this isn't a court of law, lol-it's covers.com, so don't ask people to do hours of research and bring documented evidence here, and secondly- It's just common sense to know that not everything is on the up and up, that's all i'm saying
First off, this isn't a court of law, lol-it's covers.com, so don't ask people to do hours of research and bring documented evidence here, and secondly- It's just common sense to know that not everything is on the up and up, that's all i'm saying
Soooo are we saying these teams go through practices rehearsing what they'll do on Sundays?? Do they call each other and talk out different situations of what needs to be done?? You guys truly are morons. Not only do you try and pass off your own foolish losses on some sort of undergound conspiracy but you're doing a disservice to the players who bust their a$$es everyday training for these games.
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Soooo are we saying these teams go through practices rehearsing what they'll do on Sundays?? Do they call each other and talk out different situations of what needs to be done?? You guys truly are morons. Not only do you try and pass off your own foolish losses on some sort of undergound conspiracy but you're doing a disservice to the players who bust their a$$es everyday training for these games.
Bottom line is when you get when you have 250 pound men flying around at 15 mph going after an odd shaped object crazy stuff is going to happen. If you can't accept that when you lose a bet then don't bet or watch football.....and when you are playing in Zero degree weather with the biggest kick of your life anything can happen.
To the people who say its scripted. Is the whole game scripted, or certain plays. Do they script who they want to win or for ratings? I'm baffled by this whole scripted theory. Is every game scripted or just the playoffs. Has the NFL been scripted since superbowl 1 (and not 1 person mentioned it in 50 years) or did one day the owners get everyone together and say. "From this day on, its all scripted."....Is college football scripted too? All 350 or so teams script games...Or do people who are ultra competitive just learn on draft day the entire league is scripted?
A lot of unanswered questions on this scripted theory.
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Bottom line is when you get when you have 250 pound men flying around at 15 mph going after an odd shaped object crazy stuff is going to happen. If you can't accept that when you lose a bet then don't bet or watch football.....and when you are playing in Zero degree weather with the biggest kick of your life anything can happen.
To the people who say its scripted. Is the whole game scripted, or certain plays. Do they script who they want to win or for ratings? I'm baffled by this whole scripted theory. Is every game scripted or just the playoffs. Has the NFL been scripted since superbowl 1 (and not 1 person mentioned it in 50 years) or did one day the owners get everyone together and say. "From this day on, its all scripted."....Is college football scripted too? All 350 or so teams script games...Or do people who are ultra competitive just learn on draft day the entire league is scripted?
A lot of unanswered questions on this scripted theory.
For the people who call people who says sports are "fixed" idiots/morons/losers etc....
Can you please explain Tim Donaghy? Please explain the numerous amounts of PROVEN fixed soccer and tennis matches?? In which people lost their jobs and teams were suspended? The numerous amounts of college athletes that have been dismissed from school for point shavings? Or colleges that have lost scholarships because of it??
How do you explain that?? If people who claim sports are fixed are morons??
It might be 1 game a year, 1 sport, 1 game a week or a night, it might be every other playoff game....nobody knows...
But to claim that fixing sporting events does not happen are the least educated statements possible on this site
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For the people who call people who says sports are "fixed" idiots/morons/losers etc....
Can you please explain Tim Donaghy? Please explain the numerous amounts of PROVEN fixed soccer and tennis matches?? In which people lost their jobs and teams were suspended? The numerous amounts of college athletes that have been dismissed from school for point shavings? Or colleges that have lost scholarships because of it??
How do you explain that?? If people who claim sports are fixed are morons??
It might be 1 game a year, 1 sport, 1 game a week or a night, it might be every other playoff game....nobody knows...
But to claim that fixing sporting events does not happen are the least educated statements possible on this site
I wouldnt use the term "scripted" cuz the sheeps will think everybody needs to be on it. Usually fix games are coaches/refs/owners and a few certain players. Only a true sheep moron would believe everybody needs to be on it to fix games. When really all u need is one player one ref or the coaches. We all seen refs are the biggest crook in the nfl. member new england vs denver game this season? Just lol cant get more obvious. I feel bad for people who dont believe in rig games.
Morons keeps asking for proof. There is plenty of proof. Tim donaught or whatever his name is. Also hawaii college bball got caught and was investigated for point shaving before. Its common sense whenever there is huge money involved there is always corruption. Money is power and makes people do shady things.
But i guess there is always gonna be people who believes wwe wrestling is real.
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I wouldnt use the term "scripted" cuz the sheeps will think everybody needs to be on it. Usually fix games are coaches/refs/owners and a few certain players. Only a true sheep moron would believe everybody needs to be on it to fix games. When really all u need is one player one ref or the coaches. We all seen refs are the biggest crook in the nfl. member new england vs denver game this season? Just lol cant get more obvious. I feel bad for people who dont believe in rig games.
Morons keeps asking for proof. There is plenty of proof. Tim donaught or whatever his name is. Also hawaii college bball got caught and was investigated for point shaving before. Its common sense whenever there is huge money involved there is always corruption. Money is power and makes people do shady things.
But i guess there is always gonna be people who believes wwe wrestling is real.
eli single handedly lost the first game vs the cowboys. tells jennings not to score and then launches the ball out of bounds to stop the clock. If that's not fishy I don't know what is. Another thing that pissed me off is, jennings comes out and tells the world they told him not to score and what happens next day? espn broadcasters start saying you keep that in the lockers room. wtf? fk these mfs!
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eli single handedly lost the first game vs the cowboys. tells jennings not to score and then launches the ball out of bounds to stop the clock. If that's not fishy I don't know what is. Another thing that pissed me off is, jennings comes out and tells the world they told him not to score and what happens next day? espn broadcasters start saying you keep that in the lockers room. wtf? fk these mfs!
It true tho.. I feel like the miss kick was scripted... The NFL does WAAAY better business if Seattle is playing next week instead of the Vikings.. They NFL I think put in a call and told Walsh to shank that FG..
Also the most money is made when the favorite wins BUT doesn't cover.. and that precisely what happened
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It true tho.. I feel like the miss kick was scripted... The NFL does WAAAY better business if Seattle is playing next week instead of the Vikings.. They NFL I think put in a call and told Walsh to shank that FG..
Also the most money is made when the favorite wins BUT doesn't cover.. and that precisely what happened
wow the amount of poeple who think the NFL is fixed is unbeliveble....
Trumps....guns.....stupid poeple.....this country is imploding
In fact......1 question is emerging from the others
why do the people who believe the NFL is a fixed business are here ? On a sportsbetting discussion forum....in the NFL section....posting and arguing about the value of their picks everyweek.....17 week + a year....and wager their hardly gained money on a sports they are sure is a scammed fix..
It'S like someones betting on XYZ to win an WWE event. And then cry after because his wrestlers didnt win and because it's fixed...
stupid poeple......stupid poeple everywhere...
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Quote Originally Posted by oli_renaud91:
wow the amount of poeple who think the NFL is fixed is unbeliveble....
Trumps....guns.....stupid poeple.....this country is imploding
In fact......1 question is emerging from the others
why do the people who believe the NFL is a fixed business are here ? On a sportsbetting discussion forum....in the NFL section....posting and arguing about the value of their picks everyweek.....17 week + a year....and wager their hardly gained money on a sports they are sure is a scammed fix..
It'S like someones betting on XYZ to win an WWE event. And then cry after because his wrestlers didnt win and because it's fixed...
I dont believe whole games are scripted. But they dont need to be. All you need is one or two refs to decide a game. PERIOD. The playoffs ARE mainly overrun by big market teams for the purpose of ratings and ad dollars.
NFL is the hottest commodity on TV, every year. Like pop stars have to reinvent themselves to remain appealing and profitable, so does the NFL. The yhave to entertain you.
You don't believe it's scripted, yet used a video of Doug Baldwin signaling to the defender which way to tackle him, so he would miss and Baldwin would gain 6 yards in a blowout game.
You are all over the map dude. Go write a book about it all. Gambling and sports have ALWAYS been associated with each other and ALWAYS will, so your stories about DeBartalo or Al Davis or all that other stuff from the 60's/70's/80's is hardly shocking news.
I'm talking about modern day NFL games. Who is fixing them? I'm not talking about college (where $$ can easily tempt players/refs/coaches to fix) or the NBA (where I couldn't care less if it is), or boxing (where it's obviously been fixed THOUSANDS of times) or Horse Racing (see boxing).
I'm talking about the modern day NFL. Who is fixing it? What is their gain? If so many players (Doug Baldwin and Broncos defenders included) are complicit in this, why has NO ONE ever come forward? Nevermind, you don't have the answers. You don't have anything!! You have copy/paste stories of NFL lore and youtube videos. That's all you have.
I can see the argument is going nowhere. BOL with your ludacris theories about the world. As I said yesterday, turn off the PC and head outside every now and then. You're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want.
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Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:
I dont believe whole games are scripted. But they dont need to be. All you need is one or two refs to decide a game. PERIOD. The playoffs ARE mainly overrun by big market teams for the purpose of ratings and ad dollars.
NFL is the hottest commodity on TV, every year. Like pop stars have to reinvent themselves to remain appealing and profitable, so does the NFL. The yhave to entertain you.
You don't believe it's scripted, yet used a video of Doug Baldwin signaling to the defender which way to tackle him, so he would miss and Baldwin would gain 6 yards in a blowout game.
You are all over the map dude. Go write a book about it all. Gambling and sports have ALWAYS been associated with each other and ALWAYS will, so your stories about DeBartalo or Al Davis or all that other stuff from the 60's/70's/80's is hardly shocking news.
I'm talking about modern day NFL games. Who is fixing them? I'm not talking about college (where $$ can easily tempt players/refs/coaches to fix) or the NBA (where I couldn't care less if it is), or boxing (where it's obviously been fixed THOUSANDS of times) or Horse Racing (see boxing).
I'm talking about the modern day NFL. Who is fixing it? What is their gain? If so many players (Doug Baldwin and Broncos defenders included) are complicit in this, why has NO ONE ever come forward? Nevermind, you don't have the answers. You don't have anything!! You have copy/paste stories of NFL lore and youtube videos. That's all you have.
I can see the argument is going nowhere. BOL with your ludacris theories about the world. As I said yesterday, turn off the PC and head outside every now and then. You're certainly entitled to believe whatever you want.
How do you know fixing does not occur? Just curious.
Because I know that when you get very evenly matched athletes on the same field crazy stuff is going to happen. I've seen crazy stuff happen in highschool, and college games that literally is impossible. (Such as a team coming back from 10 runs down in the 9th inning with 2 out and no men on.)
Life is crazy, sports are crazy. Crazy, explainable stuff happens. The nfl is a billion dollar industry and word of fixed games could destroy that whole empire. Why fix games when crazy stuff happens on its own?
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Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:
How do you know fixing does not occur? Just curious.
Because I know that when you get very evenly matched athletes on the same field crazy stuff is going to happen. I've seen crazy stuff happen in highschool, and college games that literally is impossible. (Such as a team coming back from 10 runs down in the 9th inning with 2 out and no men on.)
Life is crazy, sports are crazy. Crazy, explainable stuff happens. The nfl is a billion dollar industry and word of fixed games could destroy that whole empire. Why fix games when crazy stuff happens on its own?
Oh, how I miss Phixer on Covers. I guess most of the posters forgot that he made the whole career of winning on an assumption (educated one) that as an entertainment business - NFL has a right to manipulate the game results and there are also books who know that manipulation patterns using them especially on heavily betted Prime Time games. Now, go and argue with the winningest capper on covers who only went this weekend on NFL wildcard games 5-0 on 4 ATS and 1 Prop
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Oh, how I miss Phixer on Covers. I guess most of the posters forgot that he made the whole career of winning on an assumption (educated one) that as an entertainment business - NFL has a right to manipulate the game results and there are also books who know that manipulation patterns using them especially on heavily betted Prime Time games. Now, go and argue with the winningest capper on covers who only went this weekend on NFL wildcard games 5-0 on 4 ATS and 1 Prop
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