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    Honestly there just are not that many good coachs in the NFL anymore.  I don't know why but there just isn't.  Perhaps it is because you really cannot coach these players in the NFL much anymore because they know it all, who really knows.   But I will put out my top five coachs and my bottom five coachs.  Let me know what you think.

    TOP FIVE:

    5.  Jeff Fischer, TEN - there have been many times the past couple of years that he has made some real positive game changing calls on offense and defense.  That is more than I can say about most NFL coachs.

    4.  Sean Payton, NO - normally a good offensive play caller and the defense has improved each year.  I will give him his due.  You cannot win a Superbowl if you are not a good coach.

    3.  Rex Ryan, NYJ - he has really impressed me the past couple of years.  Yeah I think he is a loud mouth and annoying but not only is he a good players coach but also seems to understand the Xs and Os (at least defensively).  Truely a "Big Tuna" throwback.

    2.  Bill Belichick, NE - cheater or not he makes good adjustments (normally) and usually will out coach anyone.

    1.  Tom Coughlin, NYG - as much as it pains me (I hate NYG) he is a hell of a coach and always gets the most of his players.  He is the reason I still believe that some players are still coachable.  Not many players leave his team without being better.  I really wish he was my Viking head coach.

     

    BOTTOM FIVE:

    5.  Norv Turner, SD - still uncertain how this man still has a job.  I don't know how many times he is going to piss away a damn good team.  His play calling is not inventive and makes little to no second half adjustments.

    4.  Andy Reid, PHI - if it wasn't for this clown PHI would have at least one Superbowl championship under the McNabb era.

    3.  Jack DelRio, JAX - he has been all promise and no delivery in his tenure in JAX.  Loved him as a LB for my Vikes but good God is he a bad at making in game adjustments, perhaps next to the next two the absolutely worst. 

    2.  Wade Philips, DAL - I know he is a great Xs and Os when it comes to defenses, that is fine move him back to the defense and away from managing the game where clearly he doesn't fit.  He often looks clueless.  DAL is the most self-destructing team I have ever seen and that is due to its coach.

    1.  Brad Childress, MIN - none come worst!  I honestly believe he will go down in history as the worst coach in Vikings history.  By far worst than Jerry Burns.  Honestly just his voice or his dumba$$ look makes me want to destroy things.  I cannot stand this guy!

    Okay I gave my two cents... how about you?

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    Honestly there just are not that many good coachs in the NFL anymore.  I don't know why but there just isn't.  Perhaps it is because you really cannot coach these players in the NFL much anymore because they know it all, who really knows.   But I will put out my top five coachs and my bottom five coachs.  Let me know what you think.

    TOP FIVE:

    5.  Jeff Fischer, TEN - there have been many times the past couple of years that he has made some real positive game changing calls on offense and defense.  That is more than I can say about most NFL coachs.

    4.  Sean Payton, NO - normally a good offensive play caller and the defense has improved each year.  I will give him his due.  You cannot win a Superbowl if you are not a good coach.

    3.  Rex Ryan, NYJ - he has really impressed me the past couple of years.  Yeah I think he is a loud mouth and annoying but not only is he a good players coach but also seems to understand the Xs and Os (at least defensively).  Truely a "Big Tuna" throwback.

    2.  Bill Belichick, NE - cheater or not he makes good adjustments (normally) and usually will out coach anyone.

    1.  Tom Coughlin, NYG - as much as it pains me (I hate NYG) he is a hell of a coach and always gets the most of his players.  He is the reason I still believe that some players are still coachable.  Not many players leave his team without being better.  I really wish he was my Viking head coach.

     

    BOTTOM FIVE:

    5.  Norv Turner, SD - still uncertain how this man still has a job.  I don't know how many times he is going to piss away a damn good team.  His play calling is not inventive and makes little to no second half adjustments.

    4.  Andy Reid, PHI - if it wasn't for this clown PHI would have at least one Superbowl championship under the McNabb era.

    3.  Jack DelRio, JAX - he has been all promise and no delivery in his tenure in JAX.  Loved him as a LB for my Vikes but good God is he a bad at making in game adjustments, perhaps next to the next two the absolutely worst. 

    2.  Wade Philips, DAL - I know he is a great Xs and Os when it comes to defenses, that is fine move him back to the defense and away from managing the game where clearly he doesn't fit.  He often looks clueless.  DAL is the most self-destructing team I have ever seen and that is due to its coach.

    1.  Brad Childress, MIN - none come worst!  I honestly believe he will go down in history as the worst coach in Vikings history.  By far worst than Jerry Burns.  Honestly just his voice or his dumba$$ look makes me want to destroy things.  I cannot stand this guy!

    Okay I gave my two cents... how about you?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 10:56 PM ET #2

    that list looks pretty dead on.. i'd add tomlin at number 6 worst
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #3

    i'd put fisher higher and i don't know any coach has done less with more over the years than marvin lewis but a pretty good list overall.  
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    i'd put fisher higher and i don't know any coach has done less with more over the years than marvin lewis but a pretty good list overall.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 10:58 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

    that list looks pretty dead on.. i'd add tomlin at number 6 worst

    Yeah I could definately add Tomlin to the worst side even though most believe he is a good coach.  I just think he has a damn good team.  But he has won a Superbowl and again you have to have your head out of your a$$ to win a Superbowl so I will give credit or credit is due.  BOL!

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    that list looks pretty dead on.. i'd add tomlin at number 6 worst

    Yeah I could definately add Tomlin to the worst side even though most believe he is a good coach.  I just think he has a damn good team.  But he has won a Superbowl and again you have to have your head out of your a$$ to win a Superbowl so I will give credit or credit is due.  BOL!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:00 PM ET #5

    List is pretty clos eto perfect
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:00 PM ET #6

    add marvin lewis to number 7 worst
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:01 PM ET #7

    add john harbaugh to number 8 on that list
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:02 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

    add marvin lewis to number 7 worst

    Yeah I debated him actually both ways which means I think that he is middle of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

    add marvin lewis to number 7 worst

    Yeah I debated him actually both ways which means I think that he is middle of the road.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:02 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

    add john harbaugh to number 8 on that list

    I love Harbaugh!  He would be #6 for me with Mike Smith perhaps at #7.  I really wanted to get Harbaugh on the list but could not figure ou who I would cut.

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    add john harbaugh to number 8 on that list

    I love Harbaugh!  He would be #6 for me with Mike Smith perhaps at #7.  I really wanted to get Harbaugh on the list but could not figure ou who I would cut.

     
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    Isnt it possible without Reid they never would have even made it as far as they did? I never really got all the hate for the guy. They made it to the playoffs every single year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    Isnt it possible without Reid they never would have even made it as far as they did? I never really got all the hate for the guy. They made it to the playoffs every single year.

    I could go on and on and on about why I think this guy is one of the biggest tools in the NFL but I will not bore you.  Just keep in mind that this is merely my opinion.  Obviously no right or wrong answer to this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam24:

    Isnt it possible without Reid they never would have even made it as far as they did? I never really got all the hate for the guy. They made it to the playoffs every single year.

    I could go on and on and on about why I think this guy is one of the biggest tools in the NFL but I will not bore you.  Just keep in mind that this is merely my opinion.  Obviously no right or wrong answer to this list.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #12

    Somewhere in the top 10-12

    Harbaugh
    McCarthy
    Sparano
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    Harbaugh
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    Singletary, bottom 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesron1269:

    Honestly there just are not that many good coachs in the NFL anymore.  I don't know why but there just isn't.  Perhaps it is because you really cannot coach these players in the NFL much anymore because they know it all, who really knows.   But I will put out my top five coachs and my bottom five coachs.  Let me know what you think.

    TOP FIVE:

    5.  Jeff Fischer, TEN - there have been many times the past couple of years that he has made some real positive game changing calls on offense and defense.  That is more than I can say about most NFL coachs.

    4.  Sean Payton, NO - normally a good offensive play caller and the defense has improved each year.  I will give him his due.  You cannot win a Superbowl if you are not a good coach.

    3.  Rex Ryan, NYJ - he has really impressed me the past couple of years.  Yeah I think he is a loud mouth and annoying but not only is he a good players coach but also seems to understand the Xs and Os (at least defensively).  Truely a "Big Tuna" throwback.

    2.  Bill Belichick, NE - cheater or not he makes good adjustments (normally) and usually will out coach anyone.

    1.  Tom Coughlin, NYG - as much as it pains me (I hate NYG) he is a hell of a coach and always gets the most of his players.  He is the reason I still believe that some players are still coachable.  Not many players leave his team without being better.  I really wish he was my Viking head coach.

     

    BOTTOM FIVE:

    5.  Norv Turner, SD - still uncertain how this man still has a job.  I don't know how many times he is going to piss away a damn good team.  His play calling is not inventive and makes little to no second half adjustments.

    4.  Andy Reid, PHI - if it wasn't for this clown PHI would have at least one Superbowl championship under the McNabb era.

    3.  Jack DelRio, JAX - he has been all promise and no delivery in his tenure in JAX.  Loved him as a LB for my Vikes but good God is he a bad at making in game adjustments, perhaps next to the next two the absolutely worst. 

    2.  Wade Philips, DAL - I know he is a great Xs and Os when it comes to defenses, that is fine move him back to the defense and away from managing the game where clearly he doesn't fit.  He often looks clueless.  DAL is the most self-destructing team I have ever seen and that is due to its coach.

    1.  Brad Childress, MIN - none come worst!  I honestly believe he will go down in history as the worst coach in Vikings history.  By far worst than Jerry Burns.  Honestly just his voice or his dumba$$ look makes me want to destroy things.  I cannot stand this guy!

    Okay I gave my two cents... how about you?



    Jeff Fisher is definitely not a top 5 coach in the NFL.  I'd actually place him above in Andy Reid's spot on your list.

    Fisher should've been fired last year.
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    Honestly there just are not that many good coachs in the NFL anymore.  I don't know why but there just isn't.  Perhaps it is because you really cannot coach these players in the NFL much anymore because they know it all, who really knows.   But I will put out my top five coachs and my bottom five coachs.  Let me know what you think.

    TOP FIVE:

    5.  Jeff Fischer, TEN - there have been many times the past couple of years that he has made some real positive game changing calls on offense and defense.  That is more than I can say about most NFL coachs.

    4.  Sean Payton, NO - normally a good offensive play caller and the defense has improved each year.  I will give him his due.  You cannot win a Superbowl if you are not a good coach.

    3.  Rex Ryan, NYJ - he has really impressed me the past couple of years.  Yeah I think he is a loud mouth and annoying but not only is he a good players coach but also seems to understand the Xs and Os (at least defensively).  Truely a "Big Tuna" throwback.

    2.  Bill Belichick, NE - cheater or not he makes good adjustments (normally) and usually will out coach anyone.

    1.  Tom Coughlin, NYG - as much as it pains me (I hate NYG) he is a hell of a coach and always gets the most of his players.  He is the reason I still believe that some players are still coachable.  Not many players leave his team without being better.  I really wish he was my Viking head coach.

     

    BOTTOM FIVE:

    5.  Norv Turner, SD - still uncertain how this man still has a job.  I don't know how many times he is going to piss away a damn good team.  His play calling is not inventive and makes little to no second half adjustments.

    4.  Andy Reid, PHI - if it wasn't for this clown PHI would have at least one Superbowl championship under the McNabb era.

    3.  Jack DelRio, JAX - he has been all promise and no delivery in his tenure in JAX.  Loved him as a LB for my Vikes but good God is he a bad at making in game adjustments, perhaps next to the next two the absolutely worst. 

    2.  Wade Philips, DAL - I know he is a great Xs and Os when it comes to defenses, that is fine move him back to the defense and away from managing the game where clearly he doesn't fit.  He often looks clueless.  DAL is the most self-destructing team I have ever seen and that is due to its coach.

    1.  Brad Childress, MIN - none come worst!  I honestly believe he will go down in history as the worst coach in Vikings history.  By far worst than Jerry Burns.  Honestly just his voice or his dumba$$ look makes me want to destroy things.  I cannot stand this guy!

    Okay I gave my two cents... how about you?



    Jeff Fisher is definitely not a top 5 coach in the NFL.  I'd actually place him above in Andy Reid's spot on your list.

    Fisher should've been fired last year.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by XhuegoX:

    you need to take out Andy Reid and put Singletary

    I think Singletary is right that the problem with his team is that there is no offensive leaders.  He does a damn good job with the defensive side of the ball.  Just needs someone to be the offensive leader and this team turns it around.  I will hold off on judgment on Singletary.  BOL!

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    you need to take out Andy Reid and put Singletary

    I think Singletary is right that the problem with his team is that there is no offensive leaders.  He does a damn good job with the defensive side of the ball.  Just needs someone to be the offensive leader and this team turns it around.  I will hold off on judgment on Singletary.  BOL!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushman9:

    Somewhere in the top 10-12

    Harbaugh
    McCarthy
    Sparano
    Spags

    I agree with this!  Thanks for the additions.

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    Somewhere in the top 10-12

    Harbaugh
    McCarthy
    Sparano
    Spags

    I agree with this!  Thanks for the additions.

     
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    I was thinking how hard it is to make a list of the really good coaches in the NFL, but you did good.

    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     

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    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by XhuegoX:

    trust me, im a niner fan and singletary is a terrible coach. defense is overrated as well. singletary doesnt know anything about the Xs and Os of football...he gets out schemed every week.

    You might be right but I will give him a chance before I pass a knee jerk judgment.  Not saying by any means that you are as you said being a 9ers fan I am sure you follow your team closer than I do.

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    trust me, im a niner fan and singletary is a terrible coach. defense is overrated as well. singletary doesnt know anything about the Xs and Os of football...he gets out schemed every week.

    You might be right but I will give him a chance before I pass a knee jerk judgment.  Not saying by any means that you are as you said being a 9ers fan I am sure you follow your team closer than I do.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    I was thinking how hard it is to make a list of the really good coaches in the NFL, but you did good.

    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     


    we're on the same page.  

    who's done less with more over the years than marvin lewis.  
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    I was thinking how hard it is to make a list of the really good coaches in the NFL, but you did good.

    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     


    we're on the same page.  

    who's done less with more over the years than marvin lewis.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:

    I was thinking how hard it is to make a list of the really good coaches in the NFL, but you did good.

    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     

    Fair enough... Reid is just my opinion and I really debated between BB and TC.  They really could be #1 and #1A.  BOL!

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    I was thinking how hard it is to make a list of the really good coaches in the NFL, but you did good.

    Adjustments :

    Remove Reid from the 5 worst and add Marvin Lewis. (7 years without a playoff win, despite better than average talent every year)

    Simply swap Belichick for Coughlin at #1 in the best of column and we're in business.

     

    Fair enough... Reid is just my opinion and I really debated between BB and TC.  They really could be #1 and #1A.  BOL!

     
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    i guess when you have an egomaniac like ochostinko on your team,, the chips are stacked against you.. poor marvin lewis.  im pretty sure he is fired after this year.. wonder if Cowher will come back??

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    i guess when you have an egomaniac like ochostinko on your team,, the chips are stacked against you.. poor marvin lewis.  im pretty sure he is fired after this year.. wonder if Cowher will come back??

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dillon24:

    i guess when you have an egomaniac like ochostinko on your team,, the chips are stacked against you.. poor marvin lewis.  im pretty sure he is fired after this year.. wonder if Cowher will come back??

    Cowher is still holding out for the CAR job correct?

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    i guess when you have an egomaniac like ochostinko on your team,, the chips are stacked against you.. poor marvin lewis.  im pretty sure he is fired after this year.. wonder if Cowher will come back??

    Cowher is still holding out for the CAR job correct?

     
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    Nobody has Josh McDaniels as a top 5 worst?  He's only driven the Broncos into the crapper in 1 1/2 years.  Had the talent, then threw it away.  He's 4-14 over the past 18 games.  Broncos were always a competitive team, until now.  Is there anyone worse?  Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewster:

    Nobody has Josh McDaniels as a top 5 worst?  He's only driven the Broncos into the crapper in 1 1/2 years.  Had the talent, then threw it away.  He's 4-14 over the past 18 games.  Broncos were always a competitive team, until now.  Is there anyone worse?  Really?

    I debated him.  I really did.  I am not sure which direction I go with this guy to be honest.  Sometimes I think he really has it and sometimes I just shake my head.  You might very well be right but I feel very strongly about my top five worst.  I despite those men.

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    Nobody has Josh McDaniels as a top 5 worst?  He's only driven the Broncos into the crapper in 1 1/2 years.  Had the talent, then threw it away.  He's 4-14 over the past 18 games.  Broncos were always a competitive team, until now.  Is there anyone worse?  Really?

    I debated him.  I really did.  I am not sure which direction I go with this guy to be honest.  Sometimes I think he really has it and sometimes I just shake my head.  You might very well be right but I feel very strongly about my top five worst.  I despite those men.

     
     
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    id switch belichick and coughlin. coughlin has looked awfully questionable in certain situations over the years. the most consistent coach in the last 10 years is Belichick hands down.
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