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    MAHOMES IS REALLY OVERRATED. TEXANS +4.5 and ML

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    trace_mcdirt
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 6:16 AM ET #1

    Public thinks MVP will bounce back after loss vs Indy and Chiefs won't lose 2 in a row at home but they will be wrong. 

    Mahomes actually overrated. Exciting to watch and good arm but what good teams has he beat? NONE. 

    vs every good teams last year: vs Pats LOSS twice. @Rams LOSS. @Seattle LOSS. 

    Let's not kid ourselves here and buy into the hype and think the kid is elite. He might be in the future but right now no way. Still hasn't beat any good teams and hasn't won any big games. 

     

    Andy Reid coaching and playcalling is main reason why Mahomes putting up crazy numbers. He just fits well into that system. That's all. He's nowhere near the level of a elite qb like TB12 or Rodgers or Brees.

     

    Chiefs still have same big issues as last year with a super trash defense. They haven't fixed it one bit. It may even got worse. When you are cheering for them on 3rd down to get a stop, they will do the opposite and not get the stop. Look how every team has been able to move chains and score pretty easily on them. Look how modest shitty Indy was able to run the ball on them. You cannot trust this team anymore and they won't be a good ATS team like last year because too many people and bandwagoners have jumped on Mahomes overrated hype train.

     

    Lastly Houston is a pretty solid team Watson is the better qb hands down. When they are underdogs they play well and can upset good teams in this role. 

    Chiefs defense won't have an answer and won't be able to make key stops. Not against Watson. Bad signs from last game and teams might have figured out Mahomes and Chiefs offense already. The Chiefs defense is just so pathetic too. It's like they don't even try hard because they think their offense is too unstoppable. This strange mentality that we can score more points than you is going to hurt them and cost them more games than last year.

     

    Because the Chiefs D is so bad, it becomes the great equalizer. No matter how good Mahomes and the offense is, they will get let down by the defense. And when the Chiefs don't score on just 1 possession, it hurts them x2 badly. Because their defense can't really stop the other team from scoring, Mahomes basically needs to score on EVERY drive. That is total BS.   

     

     

      

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    Public thinks MVP will bounce back after loss vs Indy and Chiefs won't lose 2 in a row at home but they will be wrong. 

    Mahomes actually overrated. Exciting to watch and good arm but what good teams has he beat? NONE. 

    vs every good teams last year: vs Pats LOSS twice. @Rams LOSS. @Seattle LOSS. 

    Let's not kid ourselves here and buy into the hype and think the kid is elite. He might be in the future but right now no way. Still hasn't beat any good teams and hasn't won any big games. 

     

    Andy Reid coaching and playcalling is main reason why Mahomes putting up crazy numbers. He just fits well into that system. That's all. He's nowhere near the level of a elite qb like TB12 or Rodgers or Brees.

     

    Chiefs still have same big issues as last year with a super trash defense. They haven't fixed it one bit. It may even got worse. When you are cheering for them on 3rd down to get a stop, they will do the opposite and not get the stop. Look how every team has been able to move chains and score pretty easily on them. Look how modest shitty Indy was able to run the ball on them. You cannot trust this team anymore and they won't be a good ATS team like last year because too many people and bandwagoners have jumped on Mahomes overrated hype train.

     

    Lastly Houston is a pretty solid team Watson is the better qb hands down. When they are underdogs they play well and can upset good teams in this role. 

    Chiefs defense won't have an answer and won't be able to make key stops. Not against Watson. Bad signs from last game and teams might have figured out Mahomes and Chiefs offense already. The Chiefs defense is just so pathetic too. It's like they don't even try hard because they think their offense is too unstoppable. This strange mentality that we can score more points than you is going to hurt them and cost them more games than last year.

     

    Because the Chiefs D is so bad, it becomes the great equalizer. No matter how good Mahomes and the offense is, they will get let down by the defense. And when the Chiefs don't score on just 1 possession, it hurts them x2 badly. Because their defense can't really stop the other team from scoring, Mahomes basically needs to score on EVERY drive. That is total BS.   

     

     

      

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 6:27 AM ET #2

    If both Watkins and Hill are out, I'd agree.

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    If both Watkins and Hill are out, I'd agree.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 6:47 AM ET #3

    Texans will more than likely be a sharp bet..... which is more money than the public 

     

    Mahomes taking back to back losses isn’t to far fetch either 

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    Texans will more than likely be a sharp bet..... which is more money than the public 

     

    Mahomes taking back to back losses isn’t to far fetch either 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 7:32 AM ET #4

    You are wrong on in this assessment on that Mahomes is overrated and a by-product of Reid’s system. If you can’t see it then you’re lost.  

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    You are wrong on in this assessment on that Mahomes is overrated and a by-product of Reid’s system. If you can’t see it then you’re lost.  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 7:41 AM ET #5

    Drew brees was horrible his first 3 years...2-9 in year 3 with 11 tds and 15 ints.......

    Aron Rodgers was still on bench his 3 rd year...

    Tom Brady is the GOAT, and he was 20-10 his first 3 years, Mahomes is 17-5

    Brady threw 14 ints his third year..Mahomes has 0 so far...don’t think he his 14....

    You know your football!
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    Drew brees was horrible his first 3 years...2-9 in year 3 with 11 tds and 15 ints.......

    Aron Rodgers was still on bench his 3 rd year...

    Tom Brady is the GOAT, and he was 20-10 his first 3 years, Mahomes is 17-5

    Brady threw 14 ints his third year..Mahomes has 0 so far...don’t think he his 14....

    You know your football!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 7:44 AM ET #6

    the nfl analysts- kept pushing mahomes- hes a little above average. then its balt qb i think he sucks then off to pitt qb hes average.who will they be pushing next ????

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    the nfl analysts- kept pushing mahomes- hes a little above average. then its balt qb i think he sucks then off to pitt qb hes average.who will they be pushing next ????

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 7:50 AM ET #7

    NFL records

    • First player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[71]
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)
    • Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)
    • Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)
    • Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[72]
    • Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a season

    Yes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh
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    NFL records

    • First player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[71]
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)
    • Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)
    • Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)
    • Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)
    • Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[72]
    • Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a season

    Yes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 8:27 AM ET #8

    if he cant beat houston by 20 1 yr dosent make him in brady territory.i do think he threw a few int,s against pats alone.lets see how many td,s and passing yds this year. the 42 yr old qb will easily have better stats than him.

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    if he cant beat houston by 20 1 yr dosent make him in brady territory.i do think he threw a few int,s against pats alone.lets see how many td,s and passing yds this year. the 42 yr old qb will easily have better stats than him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    NFL recordsFirst player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[link from unapproved source]Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[link from unapproved source]Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a seasonYes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh

    If you want to fade Kansas City because of their defense or special teams.....FINE.

    You are dead wrong about Mahomes being overrated.  He will break more records.  He is an elite QB in this league and the team around him is the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    NFL recordsFirst player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[link from unapproved source]Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[link from unapproved source]Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a seasonYes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh

    If you want to fade Kansas City because of their defense or special teams.....FINE.

    You are dead wrong about Mahomes being overrated.  He will break more records.  He is an elite QB in this league and the team around him is the issue.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 8:44 AM ET #10

    2019

    QBR Mahomes 115 Brady 99..

    Brady is at 99 playing 5he easiest possible schedule.. don’t see him easily surpassing Mahomes stats...
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    QBR Mahomes 115 Brady 99..

    Brady is at 99 playing 5he easiest possible schedule.. don’t see him easily surpassing Mahomes stats...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 12:17 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by trace_mcdirt:

    Mahomes actually overrated.

     

    You could say the same thing about Watson in that teams that contain him in the pocket make him look like JaMarcus Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by trace_mcdirt:

    Mahomes actually overrated.

     

    You could say the same thing about Watson in that teams that contain him in the pocket make him look like JaMarcus Russell

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    You lost most of your credibility after I read this line"

    Mahomes actually overrated. Exciting to watch and good arm but what good teams has he beat? NONE. 

    I guess he isn't allowed to have one bad game.

    You don't have a clue what it would take to be an NFL caliber QB.  You sit in your comfortable armchair and spew uneducated information based on what??  Your observations of a guy playing on TV, and you interpret his ability for us.  No thanks genius.

    Stick to WWE commentary.  I think you could be good at that.
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    You lost most of your credibility after I read this line"

    Mahomes actually overrated. Exciting to watch and good arm but what good teams has he beat? NONE. 

    I guess he isn't allowed to have one bad game.

    You don't have a clue what it would take to be an NFL caliber QB.  You sit in your comfortable armchair and spew uneducated information based on what??  Your observations of a guy playing on TV, and you interpret his ability for us.  No thanks genius.

    Stick to WWE commentary.  I think you could be good at that.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 2:31 PM ET #13

    an NFL MVP at the age of 23 will never be overrated. They may not cover or win on Sunday, but has nothing to do with Mahomes' skillset. What a moronic take, can't believe people actually think this. We're sorry you lost $25 on the Chiefs last week, but don't take it out on Mahomes. 
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    an NFL MVP at the age of 23 will never be overrated. They may not cover or win on Sunday, but has nothing to do with Mahomes' skillset. What a moronic take, can't believe people actually think this. We're sorry you lost $25 on the Chiefs last week, but don't take it out on Mahomes. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 4:25 PM ET #14

    brady has a bad gm he still wins  mahomes is a deer in headlights when he does

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    brady has a bad gm he still wins  mahomes is a deer in headlights when he does

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2019 - 5:32 PM ET #15

    This is actually funny. I swear some people think a team is unbeatable and going to the superbowl one week and then they lose one game and it's all over. Vegas loves people like you! If you think Mahomes is overrated, you have problems. Mahomes is 17-5 as a starter and literally didn't put up less than 26 points until last game...Yea he's definitely overrated, better get rid of that chump.

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    This is actually funny. I swear some people think a team is unbeatable and going to the superbowl one week and then they lose one game and it's all over. Vegas loves people like you! If you think Mahomes is overrated, you have problems. Mahomes is 17-5 as a starter and literally didn't put up less than 26 points until last game...Yea he's definitely overrated, better get rid of that chump.

     
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    You are absolutely clueless to think Mahomes is overrated and it clearly shows you don’t watch the games.  In the games you listed that they lost, every single one of those losses were not on him.  It was the defense.  Mahomes brought them back and took leads in each of those losses.

     

    I can’t believe there’s actually people out there that think this way

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    You are absolutely clueless to think Mahomes is overrated and it clearly shows you don’t watch the games.  In the games you listed that they lost, every single one of those losses were not on him.  It was the defense.  Mahomes brought them back and took leads in each of those losses.

     

    I can’t believe there’s actually people out there that think this way

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2019 - 3:55 PM ET #17

    Mahomes 2 turnovers

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    Mahomes 2 turnovers

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2019 - 3:59 PM ET #18

    Mahomes overrated. I call it as I see it. All these suckers in the comments too sensitive and butthurt because Mahomes their favorite player and just because he throws no look and sidearm passes. Yea ok..

     

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    Mahomes overrated. I call it as I see it. All these suckers in the comments too sensitive and butthurt because Mahomes their favorite player and just because he throws no look and sidearm passes. Yea ok..

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2019 - 4:14 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubsJr:

    This is actually funny. I swear some people think a team is unbeatable and going to the superbowl one week and then they lose one game and it's all over. Vegas loves people like you! If you think Mahomes is overrated, you have problems. Mahomes is 17-5 as a starter and literally didn't put up less than 26 points until last game...Yea he's definitely overrated, better get rid of that chump.

     

    He's overrated - Didn't say he's garbage he has talent but people that buy into the bs hype and claim he's elite and the best qb in the league which he's not that is overrating him. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubsJr:

    This is actually funny. I swear some people think a team is unbeatable and going to the superbowl one week and then they lose one game and it's all over. Vegas loves people like you! If you think Mahomes is overrated, you have problems. Mahomes is 17-5 as a starter and literally didn't put up less than 26 points until last game...Yea he's definitely overrated, better get rid of that chump.

     

    He's overrated - Didn't say he's garbage he has talent but people that buy into the bs hype and claim he's elite and the best qb in the league which he's not that is overrating him. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2019 - 4:20 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by TJZags598:

    NFL recordsFirst player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[link from unapproved source]Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[link from unapproved source]Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a seasonYes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh

     

    Yea, that's great. Just answer that. He plays in a well orchestrated Reid offense where he has good amount of time to throw to really really good receivers. But answer this what was the best team he beat?  

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    NFL recordsFirst player to throw for over 3,000 yards in his first ten games (3,185)[link from unapproved source]Most touchdown passes thrown through first three career games (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first two games of a season (10)Most touchdown passes thrown through first three games of a season (13)Most touchdown passes thrown through first eight career games (22)Most touchdown passes thrown through first ten games of a season (31)Youngest quarterback to throw for six touchdowns in a game (22 years, 364 days)Most consecutive 300-plus passing yard games (tied at 8)Fastest player to 4,000 passing yards and 40+ touchdown passes (13 games)[link from unapproved source]Youngest quarterback to throw for 50 touchdowns in a seasonYes, Mahomes is definitely over rated....smh

     

    Yea, that's great. Just answer that. He plays in a well orchestrated Reid offense where he has good amount of time to throw to really really good receivers. But answer this what was the best team he beat?  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2019 - 9:04 AM ET #21

    hoW did mahomes look against houston-who arent going any where when the d caves its up to the qb to step up  I STILL SAY HES A DEER LOOKING INTO HEADLIGHTS....

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    hoW did mahomes look against houston-who arent going any where when the d caves its up to the qb to step up  I STILL SAY HES A DEER LOOKING INTO HEADLIGHTS....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2019 - 9:18 AM ET #22

    Nice call. 

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    Nice call. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2019 - 10:50 AM ET #23

    Very nice call! Looking forward to more of your writings !!! Congrats ! 

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    Very nice call! Looking forward to more of your writings !!! Congrats ! 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2019 - 1:03 PM ET #24

    Mahomes is 5-5 against winning teams career wise.

    His teams have never lost by more than 7 pts in his career. ( record )

    Brady lost by 10 or more 4 times  by same point in career/

    He lost to 2 Super Bowl teams on Road last year, each by 3 points.

    Kansas City time of Possession in second half yesterday was 5:54...to 24:06 for Houston.

    He has yet to play a game this year with his full compliment of starters.

    Hate the defense not the Player.




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    Mahomes is 5-5 against winning teams career wise.

    His teams have never lost by more than 7 pts in his career. ( record )

    Brady lost by 10 or more 4 times  by same point in career/

    He lost to 2 Super Bowl teams on Road last year, each by 3 points.

    Kansas City time of Possession in second half yesterday was 5:54...to 24:06 for Houston.

    He has yet to play a game this year with his full compliment of starters.

    Hate the defense not the Player.




     
     
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    BRADY HAS PLAYERS MISSING EVERY WK FOR 20 YRS HE STILL WINS

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