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Home underdog in a night game.  Must win situation.  Less pressure on Saints after the Rams lost. Fierce rivalry, the disrespect factor, etc.  The Panthers seem to usually play well at home in prime time, and this just smells like one of those games to me.

Panthers by 10, minimum.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

Quote Originally Posted by ayashifx55:

what im trying to say is, seahawks arent even that good. So they are 5-1 at home but ... against who that was ?  -Cowboys? -Giants? -Bengals? -Ravens? -Tampa Bay?  dont let the 5-1 fool you .... 
You DO realize you just listed the Saints road opponents this year, Right?Saints on the road this season - @ 5-9 Falcons (won by 6 in OT)@ 5-9 Giants (won by 15)@ 8-6 Ravens (came from behind to win by 1)@ 7-6-1 Vikings (won by 10)@ 6-8 Bengals (crushed them)@ 8-6 Cowboys (lost by 3)@ 5-9 Bucs (down 14-3 at the half, won 28-14)So the Saints road opponents this year have a combined record of 44-53-1, they've played 3 teams above .500 (barely), 8-6, 8-6, 7-6-1, and in those 3 games, they won one by 1, lost by 3, and a decent 10 point win against the Vikings.Guess the Saints have 1 quality road win on the season this year, so I'm not sure what the point is in questioning the Panthers home record based on who they played is....

no sir ... i took it off panthers games on google NFL scores panthers. 

 
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I can tell you for a fact I know of about 30-35 players who have bets on the Saints , & i'm really heavy on them being teased down to Pick. I may need Carolina even more by game time . Of course , this  is a weekly thing w/the Saints, as I live in  La. And by the way , the "public" tore my behind up this past week, esp over the weekend. This NFL season has been shitty for me.Come on MLB .
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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

They have no control over who is on their schedule.5-1 at home with the 1 loss by 3 to the Seahawks.  Giving them close to a TD seems a bit much.

Road records of every team Carolina faced at home:

Seahawks 4-4 (lost to Seahawks)

TB 1-6

BAL 3-4

NYG 3-4

CIN 2-4

DAL 2-5

 

NOS 6-1 record on the road with an average margin of victory = 13.8 and a median margin of victory of 12

 
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Quote Originally Posted by player:

now that rams lost saints are playing for home field throughout the playoffs

True, but with the Rams lost, the Saints still hold a 1 game advantage for the #1 seed, even if they lose tonight, with 2 games left.

The Saints have a bit of a security blanket with the Rams loss last night, for the Panthers, this game is do-or-die
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

Quote Originally Posted by ayashifx55:

what im trying to say is, seahawks arent even that good. So they are 5-1 at home but ... against who that was ?  -Cowboys? -Giants? -Bengals? -Ravens? -Tampa Bay?  dont let the 5-1 fool you .... 
You DO realize you just listed the Saints road opponents this year, Right?Saints on the road this season - @ 5-9 Falcons (won by 6 in OT)@ 5-9 Giants (won by 15)@ 8-6 Ravens (came from behind to win by 1)@ 7-6-1 Vikings (won by 10)@ 6-8 Bengals (crushed them)@ 8-6 Cowboys (lost by 3)@ 5-9 Bucs (down 14-3 at the half, won 28-14)So the Saints road opponents this year have a combined record of 44-53-1, they've played 3 teams above .500 (barely), 8-6, 8-6, 7-6-1, and in those 3 games, they won one by 1, lost by 3, and a decent 10 point win against the Vikings.Guess the Saints have 1 quality road win on the season this year, so I'm not sure what the point is in questioning the Panthers home record based on who they played is....

 

You should keep in mind Vegas sees the same numbers you do. It's like reading a racing form. Everybody sees the same figures , & nobody would ever lose a bet if the numbers always rang true. HOWEVER, the  Saints have covered 9 of their last 10 games & are 10-3 ATS for the year. You may not have found a turned over Brinks truck  after all. peace

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Let me take a step further. I threatened to take the Saints off the  board a few weeks ago , and  I'm losing mid 4 figures a week on them. I had a damned revolt , & threatened to quit giving them my money.Too bad you're not from La .You could taken a few of my  $ along w/everybody else . And they're loaded up on the Saints again  tonite.new_surrender

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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

Quote Originally Posted by ayashifx55:

So the Saints road opponents this year have a combined record of 44-53-1, they've played 3 teams above .500 (barely), 8-6, 8-6, 7-6-1, and in those 3 games, they won one by 1, lost by 3, and a decent 10 point win against the Vikings.Guess the Saints have 1 quality road win on the season this year, so I'm not sure what the point is in questioning the Panthers home record based on who they played is....

You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record.

So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500?

ATL 43-37 : 6 points

NYG 33-18 : 15 points

CIN 51-14: 37 points

TBB 28-14 : 14 points

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record.

So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500?

ATL 43-37 : 6 points

NYG 33-18 : 15 points

CIN 51-14: 37 points

TBB 28-14 : 14 points


I'm spinning the data?  I think you're confusing yourself.

Someone brought up the fact of Carolinas home opponents this season in response to me bringing up their 5-1 home record.  All I did was factually respond by saying:

• The Saints home opponents this year have a combined 44-53-1 record.  FACT

• 4 out of the 6 teams the Saints have played on the road this year have a losing record, with a combined record of 21-35

• the Saints faced 3 teams above .500 on the road this season, beating the Ravens by 1, losing to the Cowboys by 3, and beating the Vikings by 10

How is that "spinning" the data in response to someone questioning the Panthers home record based on who the Panthers played at home?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record.

So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500?

ATL 43-37 : 6 points

NYG 33-18 : 15 points

CIN 51-14: 37 points

TBB 28-14 : 14 points


Speaking of spinning thimgs...

ATL (4-4 home record)
NYG (2-5 home record)
CIN (4-4 home record)
TBB (4-3 home record)

Carolina 5-1 home record.  Or is that impertinent information in regards to tonight's matchup??
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

Quote Originally Posted by ayashifx55:

So the Saints road opponents this year have a combined record of 44-53-1, they've played 3 teams above .500 (barely), 8-6, 8-6, 7-6-1, and in those 3 games, they won one by 1, lost by 3, and a decent 10 point win against the Vikings.Guess the Saints have 1 quality road win on the season this year, so I'm not sure what the point is in questioning the Panthers home record based on who they played is....
You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record. So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500? ATL 43-37 : 6 points NYG 33-18 : 15 points CIN 51-14: 37 points TBB 28-14 : 14 points
Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record. So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500? ATL 43-37 : 6 points NYG 33-18 : 15 points CIN 51-14: 37 points TBB 28-14 : 14 points
I'm spinning the data?  I think you're confusing yourself.Someone brought up the fact of Carolinas home opponents this season in response to me bringing up their 5-1 home record.  All I did was factually respond by saying:• The Saints home opponents this year have a combined 44-53-1 record.  FACT• 4 out of the 6 teams the Saints have played on the road this year have a losing record, with a combined record of 21-35• the Saints faced 3 teams above .500 on the road this season, beating the Ravens by 1, losing to the Cowboys by 3, and beating the Vikings by 10How is that "spinning" the data in response to someone questioning the Panthers home record based on who the Panthers played at home?
Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

You certainly are spinning the data...Carolina is a losing franchise with a 6-7 record. So why are you looking at the results of Saints on the road against teams that are ABOVE .500, shouldn't you be looking at their road games against teams BELOW .500? ATL 43-37 : 6 points NYG 33-18 : 15 points CIN 51-14: 37 points TBB 28-14 : 14 points
Speaking of spinning thimgs...ATL (4-4 home record)NYG (2-5 home record)CIN (4-4 home record)TBB (4-3 home record)Carolina 5-1 home record.  Or is that impertinent information in regards to tonight's matchup??

 

wtf wasnt even me who posted those things 

 
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On the broom ??

these are grown professionals 

only thing matters that you send them is a check !  

Cmon man

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

• the Saints faced 3 teams above .500 on the road this season, beating the Ravens by 1, losing to the Cowboys by 3, and beating the Vikings by 10

How is that "spinning" the data

Did you not read my post before you went into your hysterical diatribe? Take a breath.  Carolina is not above 0.500 HENCE you do not compare them against teams above 0.500 that the Saints have faced on the road.  WHAT YOU DO, is compare them against teams BELOW 0.500 that the Saints have faced on the road, since Carolina is BELOW 0.500 (6-7 record).  THEN you can clearly see the 6 point spread is NOTHING. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MushKing:

Speaking of spinning thimgs...

ATL (4-4 home record)

NYG (2-5 home record)

CIN (4-4 home record)

TBB (4-3 home record)

Carolina 5-1 home record.  Or is that impertinent information in regards to tonight's matchup??

Now do the away records of every team Carolina has beaten at home, I can guarantee you not one of them is above .500

 
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If you can read between the lines, my point is the Saints 6-1 AWAY record should mean something to you instead of just disregarding it.  They are not a bad road team like every team Carolina has been able to beat at HOME.

 
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What about those of us who cashed in huge off a teaser parlay with eagles +19.5 as the final play...and have another live teaser ticket tonight with Carolina as the last play +13.5...what did I do? Did I hedge Saints? Nah not this time because for one I didn't bet much on this ticket at all BUMMER

I over thought this one and was ready to throw the card away matter of fact but I have tossed so many winners I bet a tiny bit on it.

 

So what did I do? I went out and bet 2 more units on Carolina ATS tonight. LOL

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdude:

On the broom ??

these are grown professionals 

only thing matters that you send them is a check !  

Cmon man

No brother ... Most of these guys have bigger egos than anyone ... You must be able to see that throughout every game you watch ... The whole organisation is very upset at the broom thing ... It was very disrespectful ... Anyway, just saying ... BOL with all your plays  

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Quote Originally Posted by FRANKtheBANKss:

I had Eagles ML and +13. I am doing the same with the Panthers, nothing to do with last night. What does last have to do with tonight?

 

It has alot to do with peoples perspectives of this game well if last 3 games of night upset pitt  san fran and eagles  why cant  panthers well for starters  saints  are way better then panthers this game will not even be close  saints gonna get up for this game    wouldnt surprise me to see the saints shut panther down completely  in a shutout  saints -6.5  huge tonight 

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Goat_12:

If you can read between the lines, my point is the Saints 6-1 AWAY record should mean something to you instead of just disregarding it.  They are not a bad road team like every team Carolina has been able to beat at HOME.


Well, I have Panthers ML, Panthers +6.5, and Panthers +6.5 & over 51 parlay.

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