I understand the line looks mighty tempting at 10.5 for the Dolphins, but Miami is in a bad spot in this one.
After getting outgained by almost 300 yards by the Jets last week (fluky win), they have to travel back up North to face a Patriots team coming off a bye? Henne was a total non-factor in his first road start, Miami carried 23 times for 52 yarrds, but Miami had two KO Ret and a Fumble Ret for TD's ...
Unless Miami can get at least two non-offensive TD's (again), Brady and Co. will just carve them up all day long.
Patriots 38 - Dolphins 17
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I understand the line looks mighty tempting at 10.5 for the Dolphins, but Miami is in a bad spot in this one.
After getting outgained by almost 300 yards by the Jets last week (fluky win), they have to travel back up North to face a Patriots team coming off a bye? Henne was a total non-factor in his first road start, Miami carried 23 times for 52 yarrds, but Miami had two KO Ret and a Fumble Ret for TD's ...
Unless Miami can get at least two non-offensive TD's (again), Brady and Co. will just carve them up all day long.
Kinda agree leaned Miami, not playing anymore. The line is telling me that they are expecting a blowout. Miami's secondary allows 8.5 yards a completion one of the worst, maybe the worst in the NFL. They haven't quite played a passing attack like this.
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Kinda agree leaned Miami, not playing anymore. The line is telling me that they are expecting a blowout. Miami's secondary allows 8.5 yards a completion one of the worst, maybe the worst in the NFL. They haven't quite played a passing attack like this.
Glmm & WhiteRussian - The over could be a strong play, both on the NE team total and the game. If the NE team total is under 30, I'm jumping all over that one.
BOL to everyone!
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Glmm & WhiteRussian - The over could be a strong play, both on the NE team total and the game. If the NE team total is under 30, I'm jumping all over that one.
I'm agree. I like the Pats and also this game is probably going to go over. The Dolphins start two rookie corners Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, which Brady and Moss should be able to exploit. My two cents.
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I'm agree. I like the Pats and also this game is probably going to go over. The Dolphins start two rookie corners Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, which Brady and Moss should be able to exploit. My two cents.
I agree also, I couldn't even pull the trigger on Mia +23.5 on a 13 pt teaser (Chose Over 35 Hou/Ind instead) Miami is a good underrated team to take the points with, but I agree this is a bad spot for them after a big win @ NYJ to sweep them for the year.
Plus the Pats over the last 3 seasons have come out after the bye week and beaten the spread by an average of 14pts over last 3.
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I agree also, I couldn't even pull the trigger on Mia +23.5 on a 13 pt teaser (Chose Over 35 Hou/Ind instead) Miami is a good underrated team to take the points with, but I agree this is a bad spot for them after a big win @ NYJ to sweep them for the year.
Plus the Pats over the last 3 seasons have come out after the bye week and beaten the spread by an average of 14pts over last 3.
Be advised that this is coming from a total Dolphins homer.
For the guy who said that the dolphins haven't played a passing attack like the Pats, I guess the Colts and Saints don't have good passing attacks. Christ, even the Chargers and Falcons are pretty good passing teams.
Something else to keep in mind is that yes they didn't look good last week, but they completely had the Saints and Colts on the ropes and should've put the only 2 undefeated teams in the league away so to think they're going to get whipped by a Pats teams that has little chance of running the ball is a bit misguided.
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Be advised that this is coming from a total Dolphins homer.
For the guy who said that the dolphins haven't played a passing attack like the Pats, I guess the Colts and Saints don't have good passing attacks. Christ, even the Chargers and Falcons are pretty good passing teams.
Something else to keep in mind is that yes they didn't look good last week, but they completely had the Saints and Colts on the ropes and should've put the only 2 undefeated teams in the league away so to think they're going to get whipped by a Pats teams that has little chance of running the ball is a bit misguided.
You do make several valid points. Miami had a great ball control game against the Colts (over 45 minutes!) and they really should have beat the Saints.
That being said, I think this is a good situational play against Miami. They just had to travel up North last week and only gained 100 total yards against the Jets. I think the fact that they somehow managed to win that game gives the Patriots some added line value. I'm basically looking at it as the Patriots off a bye, at home, against a team making a second consecutive roadie up north.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Miami kept it to single digits, but I strongly feel that this game has blowout written all over it.
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Nutter,
You do make several valid points. Miami had a great ball control game against the Colts (over 45 minutes!) and they really should have beat the Saints.
That being said, I think this is a good situational play against Miami. They just had to travel up North last week and only gained 100 total yards against the Jets. I think the fact that they somehow managed to win that game gives the Patriots some added line value. I'm basically looking at it as the Patriots off a bye, at home, against a team making a second consecutive roadie up north.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Miami kept it to single digits, but I strongly feel that this game has blowout written all over it.
Remember that Dophin can not play on cold weather... If their is snow this week at N. E , then Brady and The Patriot gonna burry Mia in there stadium.....
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Remember that Dophin can not play on cold weather... If their is snow this week at N. E , then Brady and The Patriot gonna burry Mia in there stadium.....
Remember that Dophin can not play on cold weather... If their is snow this week at N. E , then Brady and The Patriot gonna burry Mia in there stadium.....
First off, its supposed to be 60 and sunny. 2nd, that reputation is a reflection more of dolphins teams from previous years. This team is built for cold weather with a strong running game and a strong run defense which are two critical aspects of cold weather play.
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Quote Originally Posted by tommyoc:
Remember that Dophin can not play on cold weather... If their is snow this week at N. E , then Brady and The Patriot gonna burry Mia in there stadium.....
First off, its supposed to be 60 and sunny. 2nd, that reputation is a reflection more of dolphins teams from previous years. This team is built for cold weather with a strong running game and a strong run defense which are two critical aspects of cold weather play.
You do make several valid points. Miami had a great ball control game against the Colts (over 45 minutes!) and they really should have beat the Saints.
That being said, I think this is a good situational play against Miami. They just had to travel up North last week and only gained 100 total yards against the Jets. I think the fact that they somehow managed to win that game gives the Patriots some added line value. I'm basically looking at it as the Patriots off a bye, at home, against a team making a second consecutive roadie up north.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Miami kept it to single digits, but I strongly feel that this game has blowout written all over it.
Once again this is coming from a complete dolphins homer, but I honestly believe that the dolphins could take this one. The Pats run d is just so-so, the dolphins run game has the potential to chew up a lot of clock. The Pats run O is just so-so (especially now without F Taylor who was getting most of the carries before getting hurt) and the Dolphins run D is pretty darn good. The one thing that concerns me is that the Dolphins get too conservative on D (known to happen in the 2nd halfs of games; cost us against the Saints and almost cost us last week against the Jets) and Brady has too much time to pick apart our questionable secondary. So I think my feeling of a Dolphins victory has some impartial supporting evidence. If I was you, I would seriously play the value and put some money on the Dolphins ML.
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Quote Originally Posted by alwayson22:
Nutter,
You do make several valid points. Miami had a great ball control game against the Colts (over 45 minutes!) and they really should have beat the Saints.
That being said, I think this is a good situational play against Miami. They just had to travel up North last week and only gained 100 total yards against the Jets. I think the fact that they somehow managed to win that game gives the Patriots some added line value. I'm basically looking at it as the Patriots off a bye, at home, against a team making a second consecutive roadie up north.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Miami kept it to single digits, but I strongly feel that this game has blowout written all over it.
Once again this is coming from a complete dolphins homer, but I honestly believe that the dolphins could take this one. The Pats run d is just so-so, the dolphins run game has the potential to chew up a lot of clock. The Pats run O is just so-so (especially now without F Taylor who was getting most of the carries before getting hurt) and the Dolphins run D is pretty darn good. The one thing that concerns me is that the Dolphins get too conservative on D (known to happen in the 2nd halfs of games; cost us against the Saints and almost cost us last week against the Jets) and Brady has too much time to pick apart our questionable secondary. So I think my feeling of a Dolphins victory has some impartial supporting evidence. If I was you, I would seriously play the value and put some money on the Dolphins ML.
I do not believe there was anything "fluky" about the Dolphins win last week. Special teams is a part of football and shouldn't be devalued. The Jets outgained Miami 4 to 1 b/c Miami's offense didn't see the field for about a Quarter and a half in the 2nd half. Yet they still put up 21 points thanks to D and ST. When the offense did finally get in the game and with Mia only up 5, they drove right down the field and put up a TD in a big spot.
I think you have to be careful when you play the "lucky" or "fluky" card. I can certainly say the Saints and Indy wins against Mia were of the same variety. Or the Pats win against Balt could be considered fluky when you consider Mason dropped a sure 1st down catch in the redzone with under 2mins left that killed a drive and ended Balts chances.
As obvious as it is to all of us that NE had a bye and will be well prepared for the wildcard, it's as obvious to Mia as well. I wouldn't be surprised and almost expect Mia to use a new wrinkle and hope to force NE to adjust to it.
Mia has been in games against better competition, and I although I'm not saying NE isn't good, they aren't nearly as good as their previous SB teams. Especially on Defense.
NE is more talented and simply the better team, I would never expect Mia to win this game but I also don't expect Mia to be overwhelmed.
If NE covers it'll be more nerve racking than easy. This isn't Tenn or TB, it won't be 44-7 going into the 4th...
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I do not believe there was anything "fluky" about the Dolphins win last week. Special teams is a part of football and shouldn't be devalued. The Jets outgained Miami 4 to 1 b/c Miami's offense didn't see the field for about a Quarter and a half in the 2nd half. Yet they still put up 21 points thanks to D and ST. When the offense did finally get in the game and with Mia only up 5, they drove right down the field and put up a TD in a big spot.
I think you have to be careful when you play the "lucky" or "fluky" card. I can certainly say the Saints and Indy wins against Mia were of the same variety. Or the Pats win against Balt could be considered fluky when you consider Mason dropped a sure 1st down catch in the redzone with under 2mins left that killed a drive and ended Balts chances.
As obvious as it is to all of us that NE had a bye and will be well prepared for the wildcard, it's as obvious to Mia as well. I wouldn't be surprised and almost expect Mia to use a new wrinkle and hope to force NE to adjust to it.
Mia has been in games against better competition, and I although I'm not saying NE isn't good, they aren't nearly as good as their previous SB teams. Especially on Defense.
NE is more talented and simply the better team, I would never expect Mia to win this game but I also don't expect Mia to be overwhelmed.
If NE covers it'll be more nerve racking than easy. This isn't Tenn or TB, it won't be 44-7 going into the 4th...
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