@brn2loslive2win
It's never too late.
Contrary to what some may think, BTC is just getting started.
But go slow, there will be several cyclical opportunities to buy on dips.
I picked up 100BTC in 2017.
Further enhanced my return by trading the cycles along the way.
It's highly predictable.
Another game that look like will turn bad, and this whole thread is BTC! Why not just post BTC to 100k. I like to read football in the NFL Betting forum! Or I’m truly starting to think maybe with all the success in recent years someone big have bought you out, otherwise I just don’t get why you haven’t got into the matchups, the lines, the trends, and football talk like you do in previous years.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Auroborelis]I have been reading the covers posts for nearly a year and decided to comment here and there a few days ago. I bet as a hobby and only $1. Last year amassed enough winnings for a new winter coat. I like reading the insights and stats in the forum. I cap my own games as my boyfriend taught me how and taught me about all the games. If I win it's great but if I lose its on me and only me. Today I parlayed MTL CDNS Puck line and the over, MIA ml for they got to win sometime and Rams are due for a loss, LAC over and BRK ml. May my CDN Loonie make me a quarter. GL.[/Quote
another new acct...
Ok let’s figure out what Trump and Musk are up to. Bitcoin jumps from 60k to 90k in one week. Trumps is surrounding himself with pro crypto financial people. US debt is 35.7 trillion so are we looking at a bankruptcy which Trump is a master at and using an alternative currency?
@vanzack
I saw that and saw you still do not want to speak football. Its about picking a football team that wins, not about winning a debate with the covers crowd. You use to dominate with football talk, trends, matchups, lines, injuries. This year it seems like you are bucking what worked so well for you, but what I really care about is WHY, not the result as much as they have a way to average themselves out. I love to pick brains.
You mentioned a week or 2 ago, you won't do well if Dogs don't and I can totally get behind that. Betting favs all the time in any sport will get someone's bankroll in trouble. So my question is WHY?
SF -6.5
MIN -7
WAS -2.5
LAR -2.5
You went 2-6 in Week 10, 4 of those were favs off spreads that are public centralized, if anything according to the things you say, shouldn't these be NO BETs? I would love to hear from you on this. From needing dogs to win for you to win to taking favs must have some BIG TIME alert that was going off on the games. Your 2 wins this week were CIN +6 and DEN +7.5, this fit your model more. I can actually get behind your IND +4 pick, and take that L with my head held high. The DAL pick was a head scratcher, aside from fading to just fade there, what number did you come up with taking Cooper Rush on an offense already failing to score meaningful points without a true running back tagged on with their recent defensive struggles? Again I want to pick your brain on the process not the result but shouldn't this fall under the NO BET category?
I do not have the chance to put in 80 hour weeks, but I spend enough time on the games. For someone as good as you, and I do read the things you say and track what makes it work and what do not. You might be the only guy on covers I can not figure out why you would Bet a certain team when its goes against what you say works for you. Thats my friend is why I keep asking about how and what makes a play a system go for you.
Week 10
CIN +6- I get this pick coming from you, Divisional rival, DOG! Winner*
DEN +7.5- I get this pick coming from you, Divisional rival, DOG! Winner*
SF -6.5 was such a weird number with Baker not having any WRs, and recent stats must back up the Bucs with the way they been covering games. Fav, loser*
MIN -7 was -4 to -5, once this jump to -7 shouldn't it be a NO PLAY? Fav, loser*
WAS -2.5 I actually liked this bet myself, but again this doesn't fall under your model?
LAR -2.5 This one I was surprise, if you looked and compare their recent games WITH TUA playing and the teams they have played, everything was pointing towards the Dolphins, even the the spread. You said you have this game at -4 LAR, how? Were you counting the stats when Tua was OUT? If so I can understand that and why you picked DAL, but no one should factor in stats with a KEY star player not playing.
80 hour weeks, I am jealous!
BUT
some of these picks I can not get behind with the when you approach the game.
Who care what the forum crowd have to say when you do a write-up! I know I am speaking for many people here!
We want the OLD Vanzack back, the one that uses your current energy with BTC and last 7 years of success DEBATING with people why you believe in the games you BET! Throwing the BOOK at them! Spitting nothing FACTS and experience like a WINNER!
@vanzack
@MRxKrazz
Why are so "obsessed" with his thought process, you actually answer a lot of your own questions in doing so. Ultimately you're trying to find a winner, I get that, your previous post tells me you have some good thoughts and you've looked at the games. Let him do whatever he does good, bad or otherwise and you do your "due diligence." You post alot so you clearly have the time. It doesn't take that long to earnestly cap 2 or 3 games a week. He's trying to figure things out, not always easy, let it go, and do your thing. Start a thread about a game if you want other opinions, there's several good cappers here that I'm sure you'll hear from. Good luck!
I don't know, all his posts have the symptoms of a sociopath
@mrusso
All Good, didn't mean to sound the way its sounding, just trying to find some logic behind his bets. I will stay away, since it seem like that is what he wants to do. Would love to talk football, not sure starting a thread will help. Been lurking lots last few years and just trying to understand how things are setup by the few I like to follow, only reason I have openly spoke here is because I truly do not understand.
@MRxKrazz
Pretty simple answer and no need to embellish....
I have zigged when I should have zagged, and zagged when I should have zigged - and zigged or zagged when I shouldnt have done either.
It is pretty obvious. This week I moved model settings to allow more favs, because of 9 weeks of favs being shaded - and this week dogs dominate. Zigged, when should have remained on course. Chasing ghosts.
As far as the vanzack you want... What about what I want? Ever think of the toll this puts on me? Its like I wrote all of that earlier in this thread - and you dont even acknowledge that I am doing this for free and it would have to benefit me to do it - and you just ask again? It is kind of sociopathic behavior on your part. If you were my customer? Sure, I get it.
So if I feel like doing stuff on here I do it. I recently have had a 24/7 boner because of bitcoin. Sometimes, I get boners for other reasons. I tried to explain why giving all the ins and outs of every pick has become less fun for me - but you read right over it and simply demanded the dancing monkey to dance.
Think about it.
@vanzack
Brother, buddy or friend. I got all the answers I want, like MrUsso said, I kind of have the answer everything myself.... in a way. I get everything you are saying, but I also remember you saying you do not and will not change your system because of this short stage of favs covering after 7 years of doing things your way. If you had just told me you switched your model of whatever you was doing, I would have understood, moved on. That was all I was looking for, you switched up when you should have remained on course, guess I take your comments here a little too serious. How pass rush is a big part of your system. Betting Dogs is key to your success. After 7 years of winning I will not change the way I approach my bets. Now I get it. Thank you for clearing that part up. I will continue my lurking habits of the past few years, although one can't blame me for coming out and asking you all this. BTC isnt going be TOP DAWG for the past 7 years and all of sudden be Dodge Coin!
The rest of stuff I will not reply or get into, I am not here to fight or make you look bad by any means. Just want to know how and why the Qin Dynasty failed after uniting China, the Egypt empires and the Great Rome. Learning why the Great ones fall out is how to keep power for new power. Seem like with you it was simple, stick to the process of Dogs is key and never switch up tactics especially after saying so yourself many times.
This is a close topic for me. I wish you nothing but Luck, you losing does nothing for me, I love nothing more than everyone winning here so I can add to my system as to WHY and HOW.
Last thing I will say, had you stuck with your writings or simply just say you been fading yourself, I would not have been so curious.
I've noticed your units lost has more than doubled the past few weeks...
@MRxKrazz
My two cents on #58
You seem to rely heavily on trends and subjective handicapping.
While philosophically VZ and I differ, past posts show we're both of the mindset that incredibly solid objective modeling / simulations is the foundation of a solid wager (regardless of outcome) with subjective capping of other factors either confirming or providing an off ramp.
To that end no legit capper will ever reveal the specifics of what goes into their model. Thus you don't know what his number is versus the book or what margin triggers a play. He's been solid in explaining before and after his pick and the burden is then transferred to you as to whether it meets your criteria or no.
Example yesterday he was on the Rams, my model had Miami -2.5. So different data yields different numbers and regardless of outcome the how too is never going occur.
Personally I'd love to see him play some dogs on the ML but statistically points have actually saved more picks than + money gained. Finally my mentor preached early and it stuck, that i wager no more than a unit a day as going 0 - for can create a big hole to dig out of, but this is preference and works for him.
My observations, definitely not speaking for VZ his voice is plenty strong.
VAN, you ARE The Legend 
What great reads on your BTC..do you still have your 3? Buy more? Cash in any? My gambling child is into this AND always said these will be more valuable than real estate?!??!#$!? Thought he was nuts..Great story for YOU and him...
Are you pondering cashing in any parts of it? How bout when it hits 100k? ? This is like Tesla stock..it's Unreal 
Looking Forward to any more info..Mad Props 
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