Two weeks ago when I went over the idea of playing ML of - 3 to - 4 ,, about 15 people whined about the juice,, So Now I have lowered the ML posts,, but anyone that has followed the threads, should know by now that on a -3, or - 4 ML... I am paying for it,, I cant make everybody happy,, the real question is this,, if I post ML are you going to lay the -155 or -160?? Most of you wont,, So I post the spread,, Philly Posted Play lost,, What is wrong with some of you,, Its a free forum, Im not your tout service,, I can type if I am excited about winning some plays cant I,,,
invest you fail to realize that some us are rookies to betting so we cant decide on our own to take the money line. if it was me i would post the ML if thats what i played and then we can decide weather we want to pay the high juice on the ML. then if we lose its not ur fault and no one can blame you. invest u know i still love ya man but please see the point im trying to make.
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Quote Originally Posted by investments4you:
Two weeks ago when I went over the idea of playing ML of - 3 to - 4 ,, about 15 people whined about the juice,, So Now I have lowered the ML posts,, but anyone that has followed the threads, should know by now that on a -3, or - 4 ML... I am paying for it,, I cant make everybody happy,, the real question is this,, if I post ML are you going to lay the -155 or -160?? Most of you wont,, So I post the spread,, Philly Posted Play lost,, What is wrong with some of you,, Its a free forum, Im not your tout service,, I can type if I am excited about winning some plays cant I,,,
invest you fail to realize that some us are rookies to betting so we cant decide on our own to take the money line. if it was me i would post the ML if thats what i played and then we can decide weather we want to pay the high juice on the ML. then if we lose its not ur fault and no one can blame you. invest u know i still love ya man but please see the point im trying to make.
well then invest it is like a slap in the face that u flaunt u won on eagles money line. your post was philly -3. hundreds of us followed that play and lost. now we lost one bet no big deal but i dont think its right that u come in here flaunting that bet cause it makes us guys that took philly -3 feel foolish. im actually getting tired of hitting the refresh button on your space some days waiting for you. its not right that you leave us loyal followers in limbo waiting on you to decide weather you are going to post nba or not. we have lives too. so, dont think im hating or anything like that but this is how i feel and its the truth. the break u took was cool with me but now ur telling us that u may not be posting nba anymore cause of the negativity? cmon invest i think ur smart enough to get past that crap. ur not a kid ur a grown man. we all appreciate what u do on here but now im starting to think there is another reason behind it all. good luck man and i hope you make the right decision.
Sorry you fell that way bud,, and sorry I kept you waiting,, your right, you do have a life to live,, I agree with you about that 100%,, Ya see, I have a wife and two kids also,, and I have a life to live.. And thats what I was doing this week.. So I think we are both on the same page there.. I apologize you lost on the - 3.. . But I think you should take 10 minutes to cool off and ask yourself.. Why does Invest owe me anything? Have you paid me anything? Have you given me any winning picks? Have you ever offered to give me anything? Have I ever asked for anything? Do you log into Covers.com or do you log into my personal site?? So I think everyone should ask themselves those questions before they start telling me what I am doing wrong.. I am glad to help those that get it,, and I truly do feel bad if you lost your money tailing my plays.. I dont really understand how anyone could be down tailing me, but hey if you are, I am sorry...Thanks for explaining it to me in a mature way..Hope that I did the same.. Good Luck this week bud,,
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Quote Originally Posted by tonydan:
well then invest it is like a slap in the face that u flaunt u won on eagles money line. your post was philly -3. hundreds of us followed that play and lost. now we lost one bet no big deal but i dont think its right that u come in here flaunting that bet cause it makes us guys that took philly -3 feel foolish. im actually getting tired of hitting the refresh button on your space some days waiting for you. its not right that you leave us loyal followers in limbo waiting on you to decide weather you are going to post nba or not. we have lives too. so, dont think im hating or anything like that but this is how i feel and its the truth. the break u took was cool with me but now ur telling us that u may not be posting nba anymore cause of the negativity? cmon invest i think ur smart enough to get past that crap. ur not a kid ur a grown man. we all appreciate what u do on here but now im starting to think there is another reason behind it all. good luck man and i hope you make the right decision.
Sorry you fell that way bud,, and sorry I kept you waiting,, your right, you do have a life to live,, I agree with you about that 100%,, Ya see, I have a wife and two kids also,, and I have a life to live.. And thats what I was doing this week.. So I think we are both on the same page there.. I apologize you lost on the - 3.. . But I think you should take 10 minutes to cool off and ask yourself.. Why does Invest owe me anything? Have you paid me anything? Have you given me any winning picks? Have you ever offered to give me anything? Have I ever asked for anything? Do you log into Covers.com or do you log into my personal site?? So I think everyone should ask themselves those questions before they start telling me what I am doing wrong.. I am glad to help those that get it,, and I truly do feel bad if you lost your money tailing my plays.. I dont really understand how anyone could be down tailing me, but hey if you are, I am sorry...Thanks for explaining it to me in a mature way..Hope that I did the same.. Good Luck this week bud,,
I do not bite the hand that feeds me...thanks I4U, just stay above the bull that a select few keep throwing things your way. Glad Favre could find a way to win today....may have saved Chilly his job for another week!
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I do not bite the hand that feeds me...thanks I4U, just stay above the bull that a select few keep throwing things your way. Glad Favre could find a way to win today....may have saved Chilly his job for another week!
For anyone learning, don't be so quick to question...only after you have exhausted every other means of attaining answers. 30k views, makes it near impossible for every question to be answered individually. Just what i learned as i work on learning from skilled cappers...
Sorry you fell that way bud,, and sorry I kept you waiting,, your right, you do have a life to live,, I agree with you about that 100%,, Ya see, I have a wife and two kids also,, and I have a life to live.. And thats what I was doing this week.. So I think we are both on the same page there.. I apologize you lost on the - 3.. . But I think you should take 10 minutes to cool off and ask yourself.. Why does Invest owe me anything? Have you paid me anything? Have you given me any winning picks? Have you ever offered to give me anything? Have I ever asked for anything? Do you log into Covers.com or do you log into my personal site?? So I think everyone should ask themselves those questions before they start telling me what I am doing wrong.. I am glad to help those that get it,, and I truly do feel bad if you lost your money tailing my plays.. I dont really understand how anyone could be down tailing me, but hey if you are, I am sorry...Thanks for explaining it to me in a mature way..Hope that I did the same.. Good Luck this week bud,,
invest i never said i lost overall today just the philly play and no u dont owe us anything but if you are going to post than post if not than dont. and i dont need to take time to cool off cause im not hot about anything. like i said im just stating how i feel cause the rookies woulda never played the money line if you posted philly -3. ok?
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Quote Originally Posted by investments4you:
Sorry you fell that way bud,, and sorry I kept you waiting,, your right, you do have a life to live,, I agree with you about that 100%,, Ya see, I have a wife and two kids also,, and I have a life to live.. And thats what I was doing this week.. So I think we are both on the same page there.. I apologize you lost on the - 3.. . But I think you should take 10 minutes to cool off and ask yourself.. Why does Invest owe me anything? Have you paid me anything? Have you given me any winning picks? Have you ever offered to give me anything? Have I ever asked for anything? Do you log into Covers.com or do you log into my personal site?? So I think everyone should ask themselves those questions before they start telling me what I am doing wrong.. I am glad to help those that get it,, and I truly do feel bad if you lost your money tailing my plays.. I dont really understand how anyone could be down tailing me, but hey if you are, I am sorry...Thanks for explaining it to me in a mature way..Hope that I did the same.. Good Luck this week bud,,
invest i never said i lost overall today just the philly play and no u dont owe us anything but if you are going to post than post if not than dont. and i dont need to take time to cool off cause im not hot about anything. like i said im just stating how i feel cause the rookies woulda never played the money line if you posted philly -3. ok?
guys dont think im being negative because im not. believe me im behind invest and his followers 100%. i just stated the money line thing for the rookies. im only trying to help. i am a long time follower of invest and hes helped me mucho to learn this shit so dont say im being negative. and invest you asked me if ever offered you anything. well bud im thousands of miles away from you but a long time ago i offered to buy you dinner and drinks if you were ever in toronto or if i was ever in oklahoma and the offer still stands. i dont know how else to thank you. send me info on where to send you a cut of my winnings and i will send it to you. whatever you want and im not being sarcastic either.
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guys dont think im being negative because im not. believe me im behind invest and his followers 100%. i just stated the money line thing for the rookies. im only trying to help. i am a long time follower of invest and hes helped me mucho to learn this shit so dont say im being negative. and invest you asked me if ever offered you anything. well bud im thousands of miles away from you but a long time ago i offered to buy you dinner and drinks if you were ever in toronto or if i was ever in oklahoma and the offer still stands. i dont know how else to thank you. send me info on where to send you a cut of my winnings and i will send it to you. whatever you want and im not being sarcastic either.
guys dont think im being negative because im not. believe me im behind invest and his followers 100%. i just stated the money line thing for the rookies. im only trying to help. i am a long time follower of invest and hes helped me mucho to learn this shit so dont say im being negative. and invest you asked me if ever offered you anything. well bud im thousands of miles away from you but a long time ago i offered to buy you dinner and drinks if you were ever in toronto or if i was ever in oklahoma and the offer still stands. i dont know how else to thank you. send me info on where to send you a cut of my winnings and i will send it to you. whatever you want and im not being sarcastic either.
Don't sweat it TDan. It falls under having the patience to wait for a pick and then wait for the winnings. None of this shit can be timed perfectly.
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Quote Originally Posted by tonydan:
guys dont think im being negative because im not. believe me im behind invest and his followers 100%. i just stated the money line thing for the rookies. im only trying to help. i am a long time follower of invest and hes helped me mucho to learn this shit so dont say im being negative. and invest you asked me if ever offered you anything. well bud im thousands of miles away from you but a long time ago i offered to buy you dinner and drinks if you were ever in toronto or if i was ever in oklahoma and the offer still stands. i dont know how else to thank you. send me info on where to send you a cut of my winnings and i will send it to you. whatever you want and im not being sarcastic either.
Don't sweat it TDan. It falls under having the patience to wait for a pick and then wait for the winnings. None of this shit can be timed perfectly.
Don't sweat it TDan. It falls under having the patience to wait for a pick and then wait for the winnings. None of this shit can be timed perfectly.
whattup giant? na im not sweating it. i dont mind waiting for picks although i do some of my own capping in nba. i have stood up for invest many times when the haters came in here but i thought i had to get it off my chest. its all good over here bro. cheers to you giant.
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Quote Originally Posted by giant56:
Don't sweat it TDan. It falls under having the patience to wait for a pick and then wait for the winnings. None of this shit can be timed perfectly.
whattup giant? na im not sweating it. i dont mind waiting for picks although i do some of my own capping in nba. i have stood up for invest many times when the haters came in here but i thought i had to get it off my chest. its all good over here bro. cheers to you giant.
and it is cause qiute honestly i had the feeling to go ml on philly but no big deal for me cause i did make money tailing invest overall today and some of my own nba picks.
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Quote Originally Posted by chief42:
Any money lost, should always be a lesson learned
and it is cause qiute honestly i had the feeling to go ml on philly but no big deal for me cause i did make money tailing invest overall today and some of my own nba picks.
This is getting pretty comical, dont worry Invest these idiots just dont know how you operate with these $$$$lines, dont pay them any mind... GL...
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Man, tough crowd as always. Don't know why there are so many mean-spirited folks out there. It's a bit understandable there's more testiness than normal on Invest's threads, but goodness. For background, I'm a staunch supporter of Invest in these threads. I've played hundreds and hundreds of Invest's plays with exact money management, so while I know there are some that have played more, I would have to be up there fairly high. That being said, I honestly didn't know that he played all money line on -4 or lower so if that's being an idiot I guess I'm guilty. While it was crazy that a high % of the posted plays this weekend had spread vs. ML implications, that wasn't even the point of my post. I was just curious about people's thoughts (and especially mathematical data) on the spread vs. ML issue over the long-term. It's similar but a bit different than the issue of buying the "hook" on key numbers. I think Vanzack may have posted some high level stuff a long time ago on the subject but I don't remember the details. Just thought I'd throw out a handicapping stragegy question for others like me who follow Invest's plays.
Another totally unrelated question: why is the "he's going tout" accusation lobbed out there so much in these forums? And why is it stated with such a negative connotation? It's thrown out there like a racial slur or something, and somehow it seems to carry a "guilty until proven innocent" power on here. Why would it be so bad if anybody wanted to be a tout? (oh no, I'll be accused of being an "alias" again by the "invest is a tout" people after that question). I know the profession has a well-earned negative image, so if a losing capper was entering that industry to presumably bilk more people out of their money I can see where people would be angered. But if anybody on covers that really could win long-term decide to try to sell their picks, I don't understand how anyone could begrudge them. If anyone can offer any reasoned opinions, great, but I'm sure I'll just get "f*** touts" responses.
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Quote Originally Posted by tinoker55:
This is getting pretty comical, dont worry Invest these idiots just dont know how you operate with these $$$$lines, dont pay them any mind... GL...
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Man, tough crowd as always. Don't know why there are so many mean-spirited folks out there. It's a bit understandable there's more testiness than normal on Invest's threads, but goodness. For background, I'm a staunch supporter of Invest in these threads. I've played hundreds and hundreds of Invest's plays with exact money management, so while I know there are some that have played more, I would have to be up there fairly high. That being said, I honestly didn't know that he played all money line on -4 or lower so if that's being an idiot I guess I'm guilty. While it was crazy that a high % of the posted plays this weekend had spread vs. ML implications, that wasn't even the point of my post. I was just curious about people's thoughts (and especially mathematical data) on the spread vs. ML issue over the long-term. It's similar but a bit different than the issue of buying the "hook" on key numbers. I think Vanzack may have posted some high level stuff a long time ago on the subject but I don't remember the details. Just thought I'd throw out a handicapping stragegy question for others like me who follow Invest's plays.
Another totally unrelated question: why is the "he's going tout" accusation lobbed out there so much in these forums? And why is it stated with such a negative connotation? It's thrown out there like a racial slur or something, and somehow it seems to carry a "guilty until proven innocent" power on here. Why would it be so bad if anybody wanted to be a tout? (oh no, I'll be accused of being an "alias" again by the "invest is a tout" people after that question). I know the profession has a well-earned negative image, so if a losing capper was entering that industry to presumably bilk more people out of their money I can see where people would be angered. But if anybody on covers that really could win long-term decide to try to sell their picks, I don't understand how anyone could begrudge them. If anyone can offer any reasoned opinions, great, but I'm sure I'll just get "f*** touts" responses.
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