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    glyde69
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2009 - 9:59 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:

    Thank God someone else is talking about this.  Im asking someone like Whoodey or yourself, or maybe someone else who knows their shit to help me out.  In new to the forum and have had trouble getting answers to my questions.  Thanks to anyone willing to help.

    Ive been loving Min, NE, HOU, NE and DAL.  I see everyone talking about the Wash being a good play but Im failing to see how Wash scores.  NE should win by 21.  What do you guys think of HOU and MIN?  I'm worried that this week looks like a goldmine to me, and very few people if any whom opinion I respect, has not talked about these games besides NE.  

    Between New Orleans and Min, they are 15-6-1 ATS this year.  Why would I not continue to bet on them when they are playing teams who have injuries to key players and positions?  Help me understand why these arent good picks if they arent.

    Grin, I don't want to talk you off any plays as I lean towards a few of your sides, and am impartial to the other ones.  I wish I was against a couple of your games so I could at least give you solid reasons why, but I'm not.  I lean NE and Houston, and have no solid opinion on Dal or Min.  I do lean Washington quite a bit though, but it will be a last second decision as the line(like Mac I want 10) and some injuries will decide me.  You mentioned that you don't think Washington will score, but check their matchup last year.  I don't remember many details, but the Saints came to town and Washington tore them apart.

    One thing that scares me about your card is all 5 of your teams are on the road and 4 of the 5 are favorites(with Hou as a possible 5th).  That is a recipe for disaster, imo.  Of course, all 5 of those teams can win and cover(one of those days where the sharps cry and the public smiles), but in my experience 2-3 is probably about the best to expect.

    Good luck whatever you play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:

    Thank God someone else is talking about this.  Im asking someone like Whoodey or yourself, or maybe someone else who knows their shit to help me out.  In new to the forum and have had trouble getting answers to my questions.  Thanks to anyone willing to help.

    Ive been loving Min, NE, HOU, NE and DAL.  I see everyone talking about the Wash being a good play but Im failing to see how Wash scores.  NE should win by 21.  What do you guys think of HOU and MIN?  I'm worried that this week looks like a goldmine to me, and very few people if any whom opinion I respect, has not talked about these games besides NE.  

    Between New Orleans and Min, they are 15-6-1 ATS this year.  Why would I not continue to bet on them when they are playing teams who have injuries to key players and positions?  Help me understand why these arent good picks if they arent.

    Grin, I don't want to talk you off any plays as I lean towards a few of your sides, and am impartial to the other ones.  I wish I was against a couple of your games so I could at least give you solid reasons why, but I'm not.  I lean NE and Houston, and have no solid opinion on Dal or Min.  I do lean Washington quite a bit though, but it will be a last second decision as the line(like Mac I want 10) and some injuries will decide me.  You mentioned that you don't think Washington will score, but check their matchup last year.  I don't remember many details, but the Saints came to town and Washington tore them apart.

    One thing that scares me about your card is all 5 of your teams are on the road and 4 of the 5 are favorites(with Hou as a possible 5th).  That is a recipe for disaster, imo.  Of course, all 5 of those teams can win and cover(one of those days where the sharps cry and the public smiles), but in my experience 2-3 is probably about the best to expect.

    Good luck whatever you play.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2009 - 12:06 PM ET #52

    I watched a couple episodes of Curb that I had DVR'ed to pass some time, and in that time period Pitt went from +2.5 to -1.  I didn't think I would get +3, but I was hoping on at least getting Pitt +110 if the line crept back towards a PK.  Fuckin A.

    I just threw in Bama +5 too.  Another game that went from 6 to 5 in a heartbeat.  I'm not in the mood to play the refresh game all day, so I locked as is(even though I think it may creep back up by gametime).

    Mac, hopefully we can see a 24-20 Florida win so both of us cash.

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    I watched a couple episodes of Curb that I had DVR'ed to pass some time, and in that time period Pitt went from +2.5 to -1.  I didn't think I would get +3, but I was hoping on at least getting Pitt +110 if the line crept back towards a PK.  Fuckin A.

    I just threw in Bama +5 too.  Another game that went from 6 to 5 in a heartbeat.  I'm not in the mood to play the refresh game all day, so I locked as is(even though I think it may creep back up by gametime).

    Mac, hopefully we can see a 24-20 Florida win so both of us cash.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2009 - 1:39 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

    That's better than 1,000 , , and 's.

    I agree 100% on Cincy.  So overrated.  Pitt is the perfect team to exploit them.  Betting the mustache always makes me a bit nervous though. 

    Good points on the Florida game.  As for my Bama play, I was sort of on the same wavelength of keeping it simple(that and I simply don't study college enough to know all the little details).  You have two incredible defenses that are very comparable.  You have two incredible coaching staffs that are comparable.  A quick look at common opponents shows about the same level of play between both teams against those common foes. QB play very obviously goes to Tebow as you pointed out, and because of that the edge goes to Florida offensively.  I'm not big on the revenge angle(especially in a game of this magnitude as both teams are obviously gonna bring it 120%), but you gotta think Saban got these guys extra pumped up after last year's loss in the SEC championship game. 

    Trolling through the intangibles, I also don't see a real edge on either side.  McElroy seems to take care of the ball pretty well for Bama(4 int's for both him and Tebow).  Neither team seems to choke the ball up on offense, and both teams make the defensive plays you would expect from two squads playing for the national championship.

    So in the theme of keeping it simple:

    Defense:  EVEN
    Coaching: EVEN
    Intangibles:  EVEN
    Offense:  Edge Florida(single handedly because of Tebow>Mac)
    Motivation:  Very slight edge Bama
    Injuries:  Very slight edge Bama(I say this assuming Ingram is fine).

    So after looking at that, I see a fairly even matchup where 6+ points in a neutral setting is way too much.

    One other thing.  I agree 100% on your thoughts of last year's Bama-Utah game.  I pounded Utah last year in that game(rare 2 unit play for me), and at the end of the day it was simply because of Bama's balloon getting popped for the national championship.  If those teams would have had a rematch a week later, I would have taken Bama in a heartbeat.

    As for Vikes-Cards, I went back and forth a few times on this, but I'm just gonna pass.  At first, I thought Arizona was in a prime spot for one of those games where they jump all over a team and it's 21-0 before you can blink.  Then I sort of shied away because of some of the injuries(mostly Warner but their OT Gandy is banged up along with Dansby and Hightower).  Then I was sort of looking at Minny for awhile as it may be that easy W that is right in front of you and you have to take advantage of those when they come along.  I was looking at how good Favre has been and how CONSISTANT the team has been the entire year.  I looked at the state of the NFC West and wondered just how Arizona might be motivated when there is no one in the rearview mirror for them to worry about. Then Warner pretty much said he is fine and roaring to go, and I looked at the game again and pulled another switcheroo.  Sure, Minny has been looking amazing, but against good opponents they have not nearly looked as impressive.  Lost to Pitt.  Beat GB twice, but both games they came very close to choking away the games at the end.  Same with Baltimore.  A brutal Hauska foot was the only reason they didn't lose that.  So after all the blah blah blah, I think it is say to say that I won't touch that game with a 10 foot pole.  Gun to my head, I would take the Vikes even though I normally side with the home doggies on games like this when I am undecided.  Also, like last week with Miami, my work pool has 31 out of 33 picks for Minny at -3 with 8 best bets also on Minny. I've said a million times that I'm not an advocate in any way towards fading the public(tiny piece of the puzzle, imo), but those guys in my pools are  in games with that kind of majority.  So Mac, when it's all said and done, I have positively no fucking idea who is gonna win this game.  You have any leans?



    That's great stuff yet again.

    I wish you good luck on Bama. I'm on FL but like i said it's very small. 24-20 and we both win like you say.

    As far as MIN/ARZ I have felt the same way. Tough game to cap. I could make a case for each side. The -3ish for Minny seems like the right side. I'd like to see Minny weather a tough team though, like you say they were shaky earlier in the year against them and they've played too many chumps lately so it's tough to get a read. I think Arizona is a fraud. This is exactly the same team as last season, maybe they are a little better running the ball but they can't stop the pass for shit and they will be out quickly in the playoffs. Tough game. Pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

    That's better than 1,000 , , and 's.

    I agree 100% on Cincy.  So overrated.  Pitt is the perfect team to exploit them.  Betting the mustache always makes me a bit nervous though. 

    Good points on the Florida game.  As for my Bama play, I was sort of on the same wavelength of keeping it simple(that and I simply don't study college enough to know all the little details).  You have two incredible defenses that are very comparable.  You have two incredible coaching staffs that are comparable.  A quick look at common opponents shows about the same level of play between both teams against those common foes. QB play very obviously goes to Tebow as you pointed out, and because of that the edge goes to Florida offensively.  I'm not big on the revenge angle(especially in a game of this magnitude as both teams are obviously gonna bring it 120%), but you gotta think Saban got these guys extra pumped up after last year's loss in the SEC championship game. 

    Trolling through the intangibles, I also don't see a real edge on either side.  McElroy seems to take care of the ball pretty well for Bama(4 int's for both him and Tebow).  Neither team seems to choke the ball up on offense, and both teams make the defensive plays you would expect from two squads playing for the national championship.

    So in the theme of keeping it simple:

    Defense:  EVEN
    Coaching: EVEN
    Intangibles:  EVEN
    Offense:  Edge Florida(single handedly because of Tebow>Mac)
    Motivation:  Very slight edge Bama
    Injuries:  Very slight edge Bama(I say this assuming Ingram is fine).

    So after looking at that, I see a fairly even matchup where 6+ points in a neutral setting is way too much.

    One other thing.  I agree 100% on your thoughts of last year's Bama-Utah game.  I pounded Utah last year in that game(rare 2 unit play for me), and at the end of the day it was simply because of Bama's balloon getting popped for the national championship.  If those teams would have had a rematch a week later, I would have taken Bama in a heartbeat.

    As for Vikes-Cards, I went back and forth a few times on this, but I'm just gonna pass.  At first, I thought Arizona was in a prime spot for one of those games where they jump all over a team and it's 21-0 before you can blink.  Then I sort of shied away because of some of the injuries(mostly Warner but their OT Gandy is banged up along with Dansby and Hightower).  Then I was sort of looking at Minny for awhile as it may be that easy W that is right in front of you and you have to take advantage of those when they come along.  I was looking at how good Favre has been and how CONSISTANT the team has been the entire year.  I looked at the state of the NFC West and wondered just how Arizona might be motivated when there is no one in the rearview mirror for them to worry about. Then Warner pretty much said he is fine and roaring to go, and I looked at the game again and pulled another switcheroo.  Sure, Minny has been looking amazing, but against good opponents they have not nearly looked as impressive.  Lost to Pitt.  Beat GB twice, but both games they came very close to choking away the games at the end.  Same with Baltimore.  A brutal Hauska foot was the only reason they didn't lose that.  So after all the blah blah blah, I think it is say to say that I won't touch that game with a 10 foot pole.  Gun to my head, I would take the Vikes even though I normally side with the home doggies on games like this when I am undecided.  Also, like last week with Miami, my work pool has 31 out of 33 picks for Minny at -3 with 8 best bets also on Minny. I've said a million times that I'm not an advocate in any way towards fading the public(tiny piece of the puzzle, imo), but those guys in my pools are  in games with that kind of majority.  So Mac, when it's all said and done, I have positively no fucking idea who is gonna win this game.  You have any leans?



    That's great stuff yet again.

    I wish you good luck on Bama. I'm on FL but like i said it's very small. 24-20 and we both win like you say.

    As far as MIN/ARZ I have felt the same way. Tough game to cap. I could make a case for each side. The -3ish for Minny seems like the right side. I'd like to see Minny weather a tough team though, like you say they were shaky earlier in the year against them and they've played too many chumps lately so it's tough to get a read. I think Arizona is a fraud. This is exactly the same team as last season, maybe they are a little better running the ball but they can't stop the pass for shit and they will be out quickly in the playoffs. Tough game. Pass.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2009 - 1:49 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by wonwiththehook:

    New England has no real road win, why lay the points ? I'm kind of hoping the chalkies nail this game and I get a fat number with Miami.



    I just NE is far superior to Miami and I trust them to bounce back big after such a bad loss. Injuries have really caught up to Miami now and I didn't think they were overachievers to begin with. It might not happen this week but sooner or later the Dolphins are going to quit. True NE doesn't have a real road win but the Jets loss was at the start of the year when the offense was completely out of sync and no Welker. Denver loss was against a good team and a coach who knew every sliver of their offense, Colts loss could have gone either way but that's a tough team, QB and place to play, same with the Saints. Sounds like excuses but they were all tough spots. Just don't see the same thing here.

    GL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wonwiththehook:

    New England has no real road win, why lay the points ? I'm kind of hoping the chalkies nail this game and I get a fat number with Miami.



    I just NE is far superior to Miami and I trust them to bounce back big after such a bad loss. Injuries have really caught up to Miami now and I didn't think they were overachievers to begin with. It might not happen this week but sooner or later the Dolphins are going to quit. True NE doesn't have a real road win but the Jets loss was at the start of the year when the offense was completely out of sync and no Welker. Denver loss was against a good team and a coach who knew every sliver of their offense, Colts loss could have gone either way but that's a tough team, QB and place to play, same with the Saints. Sounds like excuses but they were all tough spots. Just don't see the same thing here.

    GL.


     
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    ^^^^that should say I think they were overachievers to begin with


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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2009 - 1:58 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:

    Thank God someone else is talking about this.  Im asking someone like Whoodey or yourself, or maybe someone else who knows their shit to help me out.  In new to the forum and have had trouble getting answers to my questions.  Thanks to anyone willing to help.

    Ive been loving Min, NE, HOU, NE and DAL.  I see everyone talking about the Wash being a good play but Im failing to see how Wash scores.  NE should win by 21.  What do you guys think of HOU and MIN?  I'm worried that this week looks like a goldmine to me, and very few people if any whom opinion I respect, has not talked about these games besides NE.  

    Between New Orleans and Min, they are 15-6-1 ATS this year.  Why would I not continue to bet on them when they are playing teams who have injuries to key players and positions?  Help me understand why these arent good picks if they arent.


    I think Glyde gave a pretty good response to this in Post #51. Like he says, playing smallish road favs is usually not a good play in the long run. However, I am on NE and DAL for reasons mentioned earlier in the thread.

    As far as MIN goes, tough game. Line seems pretty dead on to me so I really have no opinion.

    I like Washington too. It's true they may have trouble scoring but their defense should keep them in it and if New Orleans comes out flat (which is the major reason I like Washington here) then mistakes and turnovers could come into play which could lead to some short fields or defensive scores for the Skins. I would only ever lay this many points on the road if I was sure the fav would be completely focused and would come ready to beat the fuck out of the inferior team. Can't see that at all here.

    HOU/JAX is a tough game too. Jacksonville has been overrated all year IMO and their pass D may struggle here, but how does Houston respond to two crushing division losses at home? The heartbreakers have really been piling up for this team and there is talk of a coaching change. They may throw in the towel. I don't know which Houston team will show up so I'm going to pass. If Houston shows up ready to go then I'd lean Houston, if they show up deflated and uninspired then they will lose.

    GL.


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    Thank God someone else is talking about this.  Im asking someone like Whoodey or yourself, or maybe someone else who knows their shit to help me out.  In new to the forum and have had trouble getting answers to my questions.  Thanks to anyone willing to help.

    Ive been loving Min, NE, HOU, NE and DAL.  I see everyone talking about the Wash being a good play but Im failing to see how Wash scores.  NE should win by 21.  What do you guys think of HOU and MIN?  I'm worried that this week looks like a goldmine to me, and very few people if any whom opinion I respect, has not talked about these games besides NE.  

    Between New Orleans and Min, they are 15-6-1 ATS this year.  Why would I not continue to bet on them when they are playing teams who have injuries to key players and positions?  Help me understand why these arent good picks if they arent.


    I think Glyde gave a pretty good response to this in Post #51. Like he says, playing smallish road favs is usually not a good play in the long run. However, I am on NE and DAL for reasons mentioned earlier in the thread.

    As far as MIN goes, tough game. Line seems pretty dead on to me so I really have no opinion.

    I like Washington too. It's true they may have trouble scoring but their defense should keep them in it and if New Orleans comes out flat (which is the major reason I like Washington here) then mistakes and turnovers could come into play which could lead to some short fields or defensive scores for the Skins. I would only ever lay this many points on the road if I was sure the fav would be completely focused and would come ready to beat the fuck out of the inferior team. Can't see that at all here.

    HOU/JAX is a tough game too. Jacksonville has been overrated all year IMO and their pass D may struggle here, but how does Houston respond to two crushing division losses at home? The heartbreakers have really been piling up for this team and there is talk of a coaching change. They may throw in the towel. I don't know which Houston team will show up so I'm going to pass. If Houston shows up ready to go then I'd lean Houston, if they show up deflated and uninspired then they will lose.

    GL.


     
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    Fucking Wanstedt.  Here's why this guy is fucking when it counts.

    - A Wanstedt coached team always finds a way to give up a KO return for a TD with less than 1 minute left in the half right after they took a dominating 31-10 lead.

    - His teams after shutting down an offense the first half go into prevent the rest of the game.

    -  His teams find a way to allow a kick returner to run the ball back to their 15 yard line after taking a seemingly insurmountable lead(38-24) late in the 4th.

    - His teams always get costly penalties as they start to implode in situations like we just saw(neutral zone infraction on the goal line stand, late hits, holdings, personal fouls).

    - His teams after RUNNING THE BALL DOWN CINCY'S THROAT in the first half, turn to the pass in the 3rd quarter and go 3 and out three times before going back to the run and taking over again.

    - His teams snap the ball with 10 seconds left on the play clock as they are in FG range with under 3 minutes to go instead of running the clock down all the way.  What do you know?  Cincy had JUST enough time to mount the last drive win.

    - His teams botch the extra point when scoring a TD with 1 minute left to go up 44-38 instead of 45-38.

    - And my favorite.  With 10 seconds left on their own 20 and a hail mary or hook and ladder circus play about to erupt, his teams have the QB do a play action(fooled everyone there) and get sacked.

    Fuck Wanstedt and fuck this amateur college shit.  Garbage like this is why I stick to the pros these days.  Fucking AMATEURS. 

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    Fucking Wanstedt.  Here's why this guy is fucking when it counts.

    - A Wanstedt coached team always finds a way to give up a KO return for a TD with less than 1 minute left in the half right after they took a dominating 31-10 lead.

    - His teams after shutting down an offense the first half go into prevent the rest of the game.

    -  His teams find a way to allow a kick returner to run the ball back to their 15 yard line after taking a seemingly insurmountable lead(38-24) late in the 4th.

    - His teams always get costly penalties as they start to implode in situations like we just saw(neutral zone infraction on the goal line stand, late hits, holdings, personal fouls).

    - His teams after RUNNING THE BALL DOWN CINCY'S THROAT in the first half, turn to the pass in the 3rd quarter and go 3 and out three times before going back to the run and taking over again.

    - His teams snap the ball with 10 seconds left on the play clock as they are in FG range with under 3 minutes to go instead of running the clock down all the way.  What do you know?  Cincy had JUST enough time to mount the last drive win.

    - His teams botch the extra point when scoring a TD with 1 minute left to go up 44-38 instead of 45-38.

    - And my favorite.  With 10 seconds left on their own 20 and a hail mary or hook and ladder circus play about to erupt, his teams have the QB do a play action(fooled everyone there) and get sacked.

    Fuck Wanstedt and fuck this amateur college shit.  Garbage like this is why I stick to the pros these days.  Fucking AMATEURS. 

    Rant over.  

     
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    I just pounded Florida -4 (2nd Half)

    Sucker bet of the century.




    Glyde - I feel ya on Pitt. Total choke job. I spit my beer all over the place when I saw that play action fake on 4th down. one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a football field.   
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    Sucker bet of the century.




    Glyde - I feel ya on Pitt. Total choke job. I spit my beer all over the place when I saw that play action fake on 4th down. one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a football field.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    I just pounded Florida -4 (2nd Half)

    Sucker bet of the century.




    Glyde - I feel ya on Pitt. Total choke job. I spit my beer all over the place when I saw that play action fake on 4th down. one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a football field.   










    Nice hit on Bama , Glyde.
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    I just pounded Florida -4 (2nd Half)

    Sucker bet of the century.




    Glyde - I feel ya on Pitt. Total choke job. I spit my beer all over the place when I saw that play action fake on 4th down. one of the funniest things I have ever seen on a football field.   










    Nice hit on Bama , Glyde.
     
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    Thanks man.  I feel a little better after Pitt fell apart on me.  After making a voodoo doll of Mustache and sodomizing it, it hit me that I'm to blame more than anything.  Pitt was +2.5 for days and I was the douche who wound up laying a point. 

    I've spent the last 45 minutes pissing out of my ass while I broke down tomorrow's games on my laptop.  I can't come up with a single reason in the world the Niners beat the Seahawks.  Not one.

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    Thanks man.  I feel a little better after Pitt fell apart on me.  After making a voodoo doll of Mustache and sodomizing it, it hit me that I'm to blame more than anything.  Pitt was +2.5 for days and I was the douche who wound up laying a point. 

    I've spent the last 45 minutes pissing out of my ass while I broke down tomorrow's games on my laptop.  I can't come up with a single reason in the world the Niners beat the Seahawks.  Not one.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

    Thanks man.  I feel a little better after Pitt fell apart on me.  After making a voodoo doll of Mustache and sodomizing it, it hit me that I'm to blame more than anything.  Pitt was +2.5 for days and I was the douche who wound up laying a point. 

    I've spent the last 45 minutes pissing out of my ass while I broke down tomorrow's games on my laptop.  I can't come up with a single reason in the world the Niners beat the Seahawks.  Not one.



    Me either. Been holding out for a better line all week.
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    Thanks man.  I feel a little better after Pitt fell apart on me.  After making a voodoo doll of Mustache and sodomizing it, it hit me that I'm to blame more than anything.  Pitt was +2.5 for days and I was the douche who wound up laying a point. 

    I've spent the last 45 minutes pissing out of my ass while I broke down tomorrow's games on my laptop.  I can't come up with a single reason in the world the Niners beat the Seahawks.  Not one.



    Me either. Been holding out for a better line all week.
     
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    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck
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    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck
     
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    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck
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    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck
     
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    Thank you both Andermac and Glyde and all else that gave me advice.  Your responses are helpful.  FYI, when I picked both Dal and Hou they were dogs.  I have long understood that road favorites are dangerous.  

    I understand that while my picks are road favorites that violates the golden rule.  I absolutely buy into your opinion of Hou feeling deflated.  But ahh fuck it!  Im reconsidering HOU, but both Min and N.O. are competing against each other so they do have reason to play for home field in post season.  I am reconsidering HOU as I watch their playoff dreams slip away.  My voice in my head keeps saying "If that logic is sound, explain the Titans this year..."  (not in anyway intended to sound like a jackoff.)  Guess Im thinking out loud.  Good luck to you all and I think youve sold me on the Bengals.  I will see if my stubborn self can be talked out of these bets.......BOL to everyone 
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    Thank you both Andermac and Glyde and all else that gave me advice.  Your responses are helpful.  FYI, when I picked both Dal and Hou they were dogs.  I have long understood that road favorites are dangerous.  

    I understand that while my picks are road favorites that violates the golden rule.  I absolutely buy into your opinion of Hou feeling deflated.  But ahh fuck it!  Im reconsidering HOU, but both Min and N.O. are competing against each other so they do have reason to play for home field in post season.  I am reconsidering HOU as I watch their playoff dreams slip away.  My voice in my head keeps saying "If that logic is sound, explain the Titans this year..."  (not in anyway intended to sound like a jackoff.)  Guess Im thinking out loud.  Good luck to you all and I think youve sold me on the Bengals.  I will see if my stubborn self can be talked out of these bets.......BOL to everyone 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluekoi83:

    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck


    Those teasers make no sense. Why would you ever tease a -3.5 to +2.5?
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    ok...teasers you may think are what they are...but i profited hugly on thanksgiving week. hit ten straight in a row. if any one follows this good. if not...good.

    looking at playoff picture and taking that into consideration...this is what i think is the best to take money from the books.

    dallas vs giants. cmon... giants have been a dissapointment since they began losing to saints...and they have no chance as much as dallas to get into playoffs. Dallas will win, tease 6 on dallas and make them +3.5

    next...yes. NE got showed up and told up on National televsion...throwing in the 2nd string in the 4th quarter...they will crush miami even these two teams usually have a showdown. Patriots tease to +1.5....very good

    and you decide...colts they may want there perfect streak....or they already clenched division. but i dont think they will start resting yet like they did 3 years ago losing to the sorry texans...im from houston... or minnesota... needs to do something to with the nfc. i say tease minnesota vs. arizona to minn +2.5...pay is 3 times your bet...


    take it or leave it

    good luck


    Those teasers make no sense. Why would you ever tease a -3.5 to +2.5?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by grins1010:

    Thank you both Andermac and Glyde and all else that gave me advice.  Your responses are helpful.  FYI, when I picked both Dal and Hou they were dogs.  I have long understood that road favorites are dangerous.  

    I understand that while my picks are road favorites that violates the golden rule.  I absolutely buy into your opinion of Hou feeling deflated.  But ahh fuck it!  Im reconsidering HOU, but both Min and N.O. are competing against each other so they do have reason to play for home field in post season.  I am reconsidering HOU as I watch their playoff dreams slip away.  My voice in my head keeps saying "If that logic is sound, explain the Titans this year..."  (not in anyway intended to sound like a jackoff.)  Guess Im thinking out loud.  Good luck to you all and I think youve sold me on the Bengals.  I will see if my stubborn self can be talked out of these bets.......BOL to everyone 


    I don't want to talk you out of your bets. I simply gave an opinion and opinions are like assholes as I'm sure you know, everyone has one. I don't disagree with Houston, it's just that I think (for me anyway) it is difficult to determine which Houston teams will show up. If you think you know then fire away. This situation is different from the Titans because Tennessee was 0-6 and basically dead so they had nothing to lose, they throw in a new QB and some magic happens. Houston got off to a great start this year and were expected to do well but they've had a run of some real tough losses and that may be enough to deflate a team.


    MIN/NO are battling for first place yes and it's true their ATS records are great but they are at the top of their game right now and are probably overvalued at this point. You don't get rich betting on overvalued teams. I'm going to take Washington here. Hoping for a 10 but will still take 9.5 for a little less.

    Bet what your gut tells you.


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    Thank you both Andermac and Glyde and all else that gave me advice.  Your responses are helpful.  FYI, when I picked both Dal and Hou they were dogs.  I have long understood that road favorites are dangerous.  

    I understand that while my picks are road favorites that violates the golden rule.  I absolutely buy into your opinion of Hou feeling deflated.  But ahh fuck it!  Im reconsidering HOU, but both Min and N.O. are competing against each other so they do have reason to play for home field in post season.  I am reconsidering HOU as I watch their playoff dreams slip away.  My voice in my head keeps saying "If that logic is sound, explain the Titans this year..."  (not in anyway intended to sound like a jackoff.)  Guess Im thinking out loud.  Good luck to you all and I think youve sold me on the Bengals.  I will see if my stubborn self can be talked out of these bets.......BOL to everyone 


    I don't want to talk you out of your bets. I simply gave an opinion and opinions are like assholes as I'm sure you know, everyone has one. I don't disagree with Houston, it's just that I think (for me anyway) it is difficult to determine which Houston teams will show up. If you think you know then fire away. This situation is different from the Titans because Tennessee was 0-6 and basically dead so they had nothing to lose, they throw in a new QB and some magic happens. Houston got off to a great start this year and were expected to do well but they've had a run of some real tough losses and that may be enough to deflate a team.


    MIN/NO are battling for first place yes and it's true their ATS records are great but they are at the top of their game right now and are probably overvalued at this point. You don't get rich betting on overvalued teams. I'm going to take Washington here. Hoping for a 10 but will still take 9.5 for a little less.

    Bet what your gut tells you.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



    MIN/NO are battling for first place yes and it's true their ATS records are great but they are at the top of their game right now and are probably overvalued at this point. You don't get rich betting on overvalued teams. I'm going to take Washington here. Hoping for a 10 but will still take 9.5 for a little less.

    Bet what your gut tells you.



    Best rational yet.  Thank you.  

    As for the other picks, I know they violate standard rule, but I think Im playing 
    My local has Ten at +7.5  (how I'll never know)  (2.5 units)  
    N.E. -4 (2.5 units)
    Min -3.5 (1 unit)
    HOU -1 (1 unit)
    Cin -13 (1 unit)
    Cin + over (.05)
    Dal -1 (0.5 units)
    N.O. -9.5 (0.5 units)

    Risky card, but I'm feeling the favs this week.  BOL to you all
    (I lowered what I intend to bet on a couple teams and feel much more confident.  Thanks.)

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    MIN/NO are battling for first place yes and it's true their ATS records are great but they are at the top of their game right now and are probably overvalued at this point. You don't get rich betting on overvalued teams. I'm going to take Washington here. Hoping for a 10 but will still take 9.5 for a little less.

    Bet what your gut tells you.



    Best rational yet.  Thank you.  

    As for the other picks, I know they violate standard rule, but I think Im playing 
    My local has Ten at +7.5  (how I'll never know)  (2.5 units)  
    N.E. -4 (2.5 units)
    Min -3.5 (1 unit)
    HOU -1 (1 unit)
    Cin -13 (1 unit)
    Cin + over (.05)
    Dal -1 (0.5 units)
    N.O. -9.5 (0.5 units)

    Risky card, but I'm feeling the favs this week.  BOL to you all
    (I lowered what I intend to bet on a couple teams and feel much more confident.  Thanks.)

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    But some of us are looking at the stars.
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    Mac and Glyde-

    Thanks for all of the insight!  I like that you explain your reasoning behind making the picks. 

    BOL today!
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    Thanks for all of the insight!  I like that you explain your reasoning behind making the picks. 

    BOL today!
     
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    I'm passing on Washington. Couldn't get the 10 and am now seeing 9's or juiced 9.5's. No thanks. Took Seattle +1.

    Card:

    Tennessee +7

    Dallas +1

    New England -5

    Philadelphia -5.5

    Seattle +1


    GL this week.


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    I'm passing on Washington. Couldn't get the 10 and am now seeing 9's or juiced 9.5's. No thanks. Took Seattle +1.

    Card:

    Tennessee +7

    Dallas +1

    New England -5

    Philadelphia -5.5

    Seattle +1


    GL this week.


     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2009 - 12:52 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    I'm passing on Washington. Couldn't get the 10 and am now seeing 9's or juiced 9.5's. No thanks. Took Seattle +1.

    Card:

    Tennessee +7

    Dallas +1

    New England -5

    Philadelphia -5.5

    Seattle +1


    GL this week.


    Looks like a winning card!

    I wound up backing off Atlanta.  Line kept dropping and dropping and 4 isn't enough for me.  Hopefully Philly blows them out now.

    I locked up:

    Seattle ML(EV)
    New England -4.5
    Washington +9

    Still waiting on Cleveland + whatever.  Whether it is 13 or 15, this will be a play.

    BOL to all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    I'm passing on Washington. Couldn't get the 10 and am now seeing 9's or juiced 9.5's. No thanks. Took Seattle +1.

    Card:

    Tennessee +7

    Dallas +1

    New England -5

    Philadelphia -5.5

    Seattle +1


    GL this week.


    Looks like a winning card!

    I wound up backing off Atlanta.  Line kept dropping and dropping and 4 isn't enough for me.  Hopefully Philly blows them out now.

    I locked up:

    Seattle ML(EV)
    New England -4.5
    Washington +9

    Still waiting on Cleveland + whatever.  Whether it is 13 or 15, this will be a play.

    BOL to all.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2009 - 2:43 PM ET #75

    I know bad teams find a way to do shit like this, but gimme a fucking break in that Skins game.  Are you kidding me?  Then to top it off, the refs blow the review.

    Looks like it's gonna be one of those weeks. 

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    I know bad teams find a way to do shit like this, but gimme a fucking break in that Skins game.  Are you kidding me?  Then to top it off, the refs blow the review.

    Looks like it's gonna be one of those weeks. 

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