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    ***NFL WEEK 6 PLAYS WITH TRENDS, ANGLES & SYSTEMS***

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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 1:17 PM ET #51

    Just read an article where the Rams coach was quoted as saying that he is expecting his team to play well in November & December, that it was still early to be playing to the ability they can........... 

    I thought this was the NFL, what kind of coaching is this?
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    Just read an article where the Rams coach was quoted as saying that he is expecting his team to play well in November & December, that it was still early to be playing to the ability they can........... 

    I thought this was the NFL, what kind of coaching is this?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 1:52 PM ET #52

    PTB - Thanks for the input.

    What were your thoughts on taking a larger spread to get a better odd?

    It seems this week you are liking/using a lot of the trends? I dont usually see you post this much on trends? Am i missing those posts? Or do you use them often and not post them? If you dont usually use them, howcome now?

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    PTB - Thanks for the input.

    What were your thoughts on taking a larger spread to get a better odd?

    It seems this week you are liking/using a lot of the trends? I dont usually see you post this much on trends? Am i missing those posts? Or do you use them often and not post them? If you dont usually use them, howcome now?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 2:44 PM ET #53

    BOL
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    BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 2:51 PM ET #54

    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 
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    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 3:20 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by matty_t:

    PTB - Thanks for the input.

    What were your thoughts on taking a larger spread to get a better odd?

    It seems this week you are liking/using a lot of the trends? I dont usually see you post this much on trends? Am i missing those posts? Or do you use them often and not post them? If you dont usually use them, howcome now?



    I wouldnt take a larger spread for better odds..........I always use trends like I posted with my other tools that I use to cap every week, I just dont post them because they take a lot of time to post.

    Just felt like posting them this week because I had some spare time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_t:

    PTB - Thanks for the input.

    What were your thoughts on taking a larger spread to get a better odd?

    It seems this week you are liking/using a lot of the trends? I dont usually see you post this much on trends? Am i missing those posts? Or do you use them often and not post them? If you dont usually use them, howcome now?



    I wouldnt take a larger spread for better odds..........I always use trends like I posted with my other tools that I use to cap every week, I just dont post them because they take a lot of time to post.

    Just felt like posting them this week because I had some spare time.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 3:23 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 


    You are correct about when teams switch coaching & some of these trends might not benefit some teams but I am just posting what I found & it is every individuals responsibility on how/if they want to use these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 


    You are correct about when teams switch coaching & some of these trends might not benefit some teams but I am just posting what I found & it is every individuals responsibility on how/if they want to use these.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #57

    i know but taking 2 teams that won almost no games,  the trends themselves at the time  mean really nothing applying them to situations
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    i know but taking 2 teams that won almost no games,  the trends themselves at the time  mean really nothing applying them to situations
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 4:32 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    i know but taking 2 teams that won almost no games,  the trends themselves at the time  mean really nothing applying them to situations


    Bills being 0-10 SU past 10 years before the bye is a significant trend & it doesnt matter about coaching changes because they have had a few in the past 10 years & it did nothing to improve their performance week before the bye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    i know but taking 2 teams that won almost no games,  the trends themselves at the time  mean really nothing applying them to situations


    Bills being 0-10 SU past 10 years before the bye is a significant trend & it doesnt matter about coaching changes because they have had a few in the past 10 years & it did nothing to improve their performance week before the bye.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 4:35 PM ET #59

    Here are some more trends:


    Visitor in the Bears vs Vikings series is 19-4 ATS since 1995

    Underdog in the Skins vs eagles games has covered 10 of the past 12 games

    SU winner in the Jets vs Miami series is 22-4-2 ATS past 28 games.


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    Here are some more trends:


    Visitor in the Bears vs Vikings series is 19-4 ATS since 1995

    Underdog in the Skins vs eagles games has covered 10 of the past 12 games

    SU winner in the Jets vs Miami series is 22-4-2 ATS past 28 games.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 5:01 PM ET #60

    More trends:


    Vikings are 9-22 ATS after winning by 10 points or more

    Lions vs 49ers series has gone under in 7 straight games

    Road team in the Jets vs Miami series is 7-1-1 ATS past 9 games


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    More trends:


    Vikings are 9-22 ATS after winning by 10 points or more

    Lions vs 49ers series has gone under in 7 straight games

    Road team in the Jets vs Miami series is 7-1-1 ATS past 9 games


     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 6:25 PM ET #61

    Leaning Balt. myself.  GL PT
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    Leaning Balt. myself.  GL PT
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 6:49 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



    Already posted about the Giants game, here is the Panthers game:


    Falcons are 8-0 ATS off a double digit SU loss under coach Mike Smith

    Falcons are 11-3 ATS off a one SU loss under coach Smith

    Falcons are 9-1 ATS vs division opponent off a division game & back to back SU losses

    Panthers are 12-0 ATS as dogs vs opponent off SU & ATS loss in October.

    Panthers are 7-0 ATS with revenge vs division opponent off a double digit ATS loss

    Panthers are 11-2 ATS away off a dog roles division opponent off a SU & ATS loss

    Panthers are 14-3 ATS vs division opponent off a SU NFC loss

    Panthers are 7-1 ATS off 3 or more ATS win in a row vs division opponent






    Thank again...PTB!!! ...Now I change my mine about Panthers...play..to Tampa Bay instead..Seem to me trends are favoring the BUCS..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



    Already posted about the Giants game, here is the Panthers game:


    Falcons are 8-0 ATS off a double digit SU loss under coach Mike Smith

    Falcons are 11-3 ATS off a one SU loss under coach Smith

    Falcons are 9-1 ATS vs division opponent off a division game & back to back SU losses

    Panthers are 12-0 ATS as dogs vs opponent off SU & ATS loss in October.

    Panthers are 7-0 ATS with revenge vs division opponent off a double digit ATS loss

    Panthers are 11-2 ATS away off a dog roles division opponent off a SU & ATS loss

    Panthers are 14-3 ATS vs division opponent off a SU NFC loss

    Panthers are 7-1 ATS off 3 or more ATS win in a row vs division opponent






    Thank again...PTB!!! ...Now I change my mine about Panthers...play..to Tampa Bay instead..Seem to me trends are favoring the BUCS..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 6:58 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 



    I only like trends that you can explain or have a reason why its trending!Just like the favorite after a bye or a road favorite after a bye.Those can be explained.A good team coming off a bye getting an extra week of rest to heal and preparation is an ADVANTAGE!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter10:

    your citing stats that are meaningless  and way outdated ,  the Bills and 49ers both teams were  horrible before this year ,  and  of course every trend would be a  losing one.... its only common sense 

    .both teams are good now    new coaches new team, new out;look and the start of new trends 



    I only like trends that you can explain or have a reason why its trending!Just like the favorite after a bye or a road favorite after a bye.Those can be explained.A good team coming off a bye getting an extra week of rest to heal and preparation is an ADVANTAGE!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 7:36 PM ET #64

    Good luck with all your bets. With regards to the Bills trends, its hard to take them too seriously because the Bills have been a joke for a long time coming into this year. I like the Bills to cover +3 against the Giants and I think they win outright against one of the most over-rated quarterbacks in the league
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    Good luck with all your bets. With regards to the Bills trends, its hard to take them too seriously because the Bills have been a joke for a long time coming into this year. I like the Bills to cover +3 against the Giants and I think they win outright against one of the most over-rated quarterbacks in the league
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 10:13 PM ET #65

    Once again, thanks for the input. 
    BOL this week  
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    Once again, thanks for the input. 
    BOL this week  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 11:17 PM ET #66

    I read a comment earlier about the use of trends, and how they do or dont apply to any situation in gaming. Trends are important, the difference between the average better and the very few that actually make money at doing this is small. Bettors that are willing to do a few hours of homework on the games theyre betting each weekend will pick more winners than the guy going on their "gut feeling". Think about it, the avaliablity to get up to the minute coverage, stats, weather conditions, injury reports, trends sometimes dating back 15 -20 years, power rankings, point differential..total transparancy of any given matchup. They'res no secrets anymore. The internet has made this possible, local bookies are scared shitless of bettors that do their homework...Bettors that see sports channels as what they are, entertainment. These most recent websites that provide all the most detailed analysis and statistics werent even around untill these last few years, not like the 70's 80's 90's or most of the start of this century anymore. We got access to the same info vegas has...make sure to use it

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    I read a comment earlier about the use of trends, and how they do or dont apply to any situation in gaming. Trends are important, the difference between the average better and the very few that actually make money at doing this is small. Bettors that are willing to do a few hours of homework on the games theyre betting each weekend will pick more winners than the guy going on their "gut feeling". Think about it, the avaliablity to get up to the minute coverage, stats, weather conditions, injury reports, trends sometimes dating back 15 -20 years, power rankings, point differential..total transparancy of any given matchup. They'res no secrets anymore. The internet has made this possible, local bookies are scared shitless of bettors that do their homework...Bettors that see sports channels as what they are, entertainment. These most recent websites that provide all the most detailed analysis and statistics werent even around untill these last few years, not like the 70's 80's 90's or most of the start of this century anymore. We got access to the same info vegas has...make sure to use it

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gio113079:

    I read a comment earlier about the use of trends, and how they do or dont apply to any situation in gaming. Trends are important, the difference between the average better and the very few that actually make money at doing this is small. Bettors that are willing to do a few hours of homework on the games theyre betting each weekend will pick more winners than the guy going on their "gut feeling". Think about it, the avaliablity to get up to the minute coverage, stats, weather conditions, injury reports, trends sometimes dating back 15 -20 years, power rankings, point differential..total transparancy of any given matchup. They'res no secrets anymore. The internet has made this possible, local bookies are scared shitless of bettors that do their homework...Bettors that see sports channels as what they are, entertainment. These most recent websites that provide all the most detailed analysis and statistics werent even around untill these last few years, not like the 70's 80's 90's or most of the start of this century anymore. We got access to the same info vegas has...make sure to use it




    Yes sir, times have changed..............



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    Quote Originally Posted by gio113079:

    I read a comment earlier about the use of trends, and how they do or dont apply to any situation in gaming. Trends are important, the difference between the average better and the very few that actually make money at doing this is small. Bettors that are willing to do a few hours of homework on the games theyre betting each weekend will pick more winners than the guy going on their "gut feeling". Think about it, the avaliablity to get up to the minute coverage, stats, weather conditions, injury reports, trends sometimes dating back 15 -20 years, power rankings, point differential..total transparancy of any given matchup. They'res no secrets anymore. The internet has made this possible, local bookies are scared shitless of bettors that do their homework...Bettors that see sports channels as what they are, entertainment. These most recent websites that provide all the most detailed analysis and statistics werent even around untill these last few years, not like the 70's 80's 90's or most of the start of this century anymore. We got access to the same info vegas has...make sure to use it




    Yes sir, times have changed..............



     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 11:34 PM ET #68

    Good info Prime Time 
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    Good info Prime Time 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 11:39 PM ET #69

    More trends:


    Colts are 9-0 ATS away vs .500 or better opponent under coach Caldwell (no Manning so I dont know about this trend)

    Colts are 8-1 ATS vs opponent off non-division SU & ATS win under Caldwell

    Colts are 8-1 ATS vs opponent off double digit SU win with revenge under Caldwell

    Colts are 1-9 ATS away off a SU favorite loss

    Bengals are 1-8 ATS when .500 or better off non-division vs opponent off back to back SU losses under Marvin Lewis

    Bengals are 2-12 ATS when .500 or better at home vs opponent who scored 17 or more points last game under coach Lewis

    Bengals are 1-9 ATS at home off a SU win in October

    Bengals are 2-12 ATS when .500 or better favorites in October










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    More trends:


    Colts are 9-0 ATS away vs .500 or better opponent under coach Caldwell (no Manning so I dont know about this trend)

    Colts are 8-1 ATS vs opponent off non-division SU & ATS win under Caldwell

    Colts are 8-1 ATS vs opponent off double digit SU win with revenge under Caldwell

    Colts are 1-9 ATS away off a SU favorite loss

    Bengals are 1-8 ATS when .500 or better off non-division vs opponent off back to back SU losses under Marvin Lewis

    Bengals are 2-12 ATS when .500 or better at home vs opponent who scored 17 or more points last game under coach Lewis

    Bengals are 1-9 ATS at home off a SU win in October

    Bengals are 2-12 ATS when .500 or better favorites in October










     
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    Posted: Oct. 12, 2011 - 11:45 PM ET #70

    BOL this week man.  Lets get it 
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    BOL this week man.  Lets get it 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 12:11 AM ET #71

    Adding 3 team 10 point teaser:




    Lions +6, Giants +6.5, Falcons +6.5,  $1,200 to win $1,000
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    Adding 3 team 10 point teaser:




    Lions +6, Giants +6.5, Falcons +6.5,  $1,200 to win $1,000
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 12:39 AM ET #72

    PTB, thanks for the info!!! 
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    PTB, thanks for the info!!! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 2:27 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Taking a closer look at this weeks games:


    (Gbay -15 vs Rams)  We all know what Gbay is capable of, they are the super bowl champs & Rodgers takes no pity on any team. If he can put your lights out, he will. As you saw when they played the Panthers & down more than 7 points. 

    If you make mistakes against this Packers team, you will pay the price. Imo, the Packers definitely win here & win next week to go into their bye week 7-0. Question is do they cover the big spread this week? I may have jumped the gun in betting the Rams but I do have the choice of buying it back at maybe a worse number or hopefully a better number if I decide differently.

    The teasers I still like because I am catching 24.5 points. I played both sides of this game in 10 point teasers.

    Me recommendation is if you can play 13 point teasers, stick the Packers in there at -2, no way this loses imo.
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    (Steelers -12 vs Jags)  Steelers got back on track last week with a beat down on the Texans, big Ben kicked the crap out of the Texans with the boot he was wearing. Steelers are sitting at 3-2 & will win this game imo, but dont think they caover the spread.

    The Jags were looking for there 2nd win of the season & looked to be heading that way late in the 4th quarter only to relinquish it to the best defense in the league, the Bengals............ correct me if im wrong.

    Jags have a Monday night home game vs the Ravens  in two weeks, man I can see a blow out coming from right now in that game. Will the Jags look ahead? They should be taking one game at a time being 1-4, just dont see a look ahead game here, but then again...........

    Again, if you like playing teasers, take Steelers -2 in 10 point teasers & Jags +22, I think both ways come in. Steelers wont lose this game.
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    (Eagles -1 at Skins)  Either the odds makers are screwing with our heads week after week or they actually do believe the Eagles will win this week. Reason why the Eagles are favored week after week & have over inflated lines is because of ESPN & their over hype of the dream team b.s.

    If the Eagles dont win this game, the owner should fire Reid. Eagles are making too many mistakes in key parts of the games. It all starts with Vick throwing 4 picks in the game. After his 2nd one, the coach should have benched him, no questions asked!

    The Skins are flying under the radar & sitting at 3-1 & to tell you the truth, I think they win their division unless we see a furious rally by Dallas or one of the other over rated NFC East teams.

    Skins will come to play off the bye but if I had to play this game, its Eagles -1, or Eagles +9 in a 10 point teaser.








    im sorry but i gotta disagree with that. I love your threads tho PTB very knowledgeable capper. But no way are those int's Mike Vicks fault. No protection whatsoever yet hes still compiling 400-450 TTL yards/gm. Throw kafka or young in that spot with that oline and your 1-15  

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Taking a closer look at this weeks games:


    (Gbay -15 vs Rams)  We all know what Gbay is capable of, they are the super bowl champs & Rodgers takes no pity on any team. If he can put your lights out, he will. As you saw when they played the Panthers & down more than 7 points. 

    If you make mistakes against this Packers team, you will pay the price. Imo, the Packers definitely win here & win next week to go into their bye week 7-0. Question is do they cover the big spread this week? I may have jumped the gun in betting the Rams but I do have the choice of buying it back at maybe a worse number or hopefully a better number if I decide differently.

    The teasers I still like because I am catching 24.5 points. I played both sides of this game in 10 point teasers.

    Me recommendation is if you can play 13 point teasers, stick the Packers in there at -2, no way this loses imo.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    (Steelers -12 vs Jags)  Steelers got back on track last week with a beat down on the Texans, big Ben kicked the crap out of the Texans with the boot he was wearing. Steelers are sitting at 3-2 & will win this game imo, but dont think they caover the spread.

    The Jags were looking for there 2nd win of the season & looked to be heading that way late in the 4th quarter only to relinquish it to the best defense in the league, the Bengals............ correct me if im wrong.

    Jags have a Monday night home game vs the Ravens  in two weeks, man I can see a blow out coming from right now in that game. Will the Jags look ahead? They should be taking one game at a time being 1-4, just dont see a look ahead game here, but then again...........

    Again, if you like playing teasers, take Steelers -2 in 10 point teasers & Jags +22, I think both ways come in. Steelers wont lose this game.
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    (Eagles -1 at Skins)  Either the odds makers are screwing with our heads week after week or they actually do believe the Eagles will win this week. Reason why the Eagles are favored week after week & have over inflated lines is because of ESPN & their over hype of the dream team b.s.

    If the Eagles dont win this game, the owner should fire Reid. Eagles are making too many mistakes in key parts of the games. It all starts with Vick throwing 4 picks in the game. After his 2nd one, the coach should have benched him, no questions asked!

    The Skins are flying under the radar & sitting at 3-1 & to tell you the truth, I think they win their division unless we see a furious rally by Dallas or one of the other over rated NFC East teams.

    Skins will come to play off the bye but if I had to play this game, its Eagles -1, or Eagles +9 in a 10 point teaser.








    im sorry but i gotta disagree with that. I love your threads tho PTB very knowledgeable capper. But no way are those int's Mike Vicks fault. No protection whatsoever yet hes still compiling 400-450 TTL yards/gm. Throw kafka or young in that spot with that oline and your 1-15  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 3:38 AM ET #74

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    HERE IS LOCK FROM ME.

    WHEN ROAD UNDERDOG TEAM WON STRAIGHT UP IN PREVIOUS WEEK, AND COME HOME AS A FAVORITE, yOU BETTER TAKE THEM...

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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2011 - 5:55 AM ET #75

    thanks for the info prime time.

    tailing your bets. let's cash this!

    looking at a couple of teasers myself.


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    thanks for the info prime time.

    tailing your bets. let's cash this!

    looking at a couple of teasers myself.


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