I don't know if anyone is looking at this angle, but the Niners closest games this year were against Quarterbacks who are mobile and can move around the pocket. Mostly scrambling type Quarterbacks. Below are some of the games for example:
1. Niners @ Arizona (game 1) WON 28-25 (Kyler Murray) -- Murray threw for 241 yds, and threw two td passes.
2. Seattle @ Niners (game 1) LOST 27-24 (Russell Wilson)
3. Arizona @ Niners (game 2) WON 36-26 (Kyler Murray) -- Murray thew for 150 yds, threw for two td's, and also rushed for a td with 67 yards rushing which was his second most against any team this year.
4. Niners @ Baltimore LOST 20-17 (Lamar Jackson)
5. Niners @ Seattle (game 2) WON 26-21 (Russell Wilson)
Now they get to face Mahomes, who's arguably just as good if not better than Wilson and Lamar Jackson moving around the pocket.
Kyler Murray is an average QB IMO, obviously as this was his first year, but he had two of his best games this year against San Fran. He had 3 games this year total with 3 overall tds in a game, and one of those games was against San Fran. He also only had 7 multi td games, and 2 of those 7 were against San Fran.
Something to think about when looking for an edge in trying to pick a winner in this game. Being able to scramble and move around the pocket, opens up the San Fran defense, and big plays will happen. Seattle, Arizona, and Baltimore, don't have even close to the playmakers Kansas City has.
I think Mahomes and company have the edge here, and should be able to but up at least 25-30 points against this defense with Mahomes being as mobile as he is.
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I don't know if anyone is looking at this angle, but the Niners closest games this year were against Quarterbacks who are mobile and can move around the pocket. Mostly scrambling type Quarterbacks. Below are some of the games for example:
1. Niners @ Arizona (game 1) WON 28-25 (Kyler Murray) -- Murray threw for 241 yds, and threw two td passes.
2. Seattle @ Niners (game 1) LOST 27-24 (Russell Wilson)
3. Arizona @ Niners (game 2) WON 36-26 (Kyler Murray) -- Murray thew for 150 yds, threw for two td's, and also rushed for a td with 67 yards rushing which was his second most against any team this year.
4. Niners @ Baltimore LOST 20-17 (Lamar Jackson)
5. Niners @ Seattle (game 2) WON 26-21 (Russell Wilson)
Now they get to face Mahomes, who's arguably just as good if not better than Wilson and Lamar Jackson moving around the pocket.
Kyler Murray is an average QB IMO, obviously as this was his first year, but he had two of his best games this year against San Fran. He had 3 games this year total with 3 overall tds in a game, and one of those games was against San Fran. He also only had 7 multi td games, and 2 of those 7 were against San Fran.
Something to think about when looking for an edge in trying to pick a winner in this game. Being able to scramble and move around the pocket, opens up the San Fran defense, and big plays will happen. Seattle, Arizona, and Baltimore, don't have even close to the playmakers Kansas City has.
I think Mahomes and company have the edge here, and should be able to but up at least 25-30 points against this defense with Mahomes being as mobile as he is.
Totally agreed. SF secondary is worst. If Andy Reid wants to beat SF, he got to take advantage of two bad corners back of SF. Go deep ball, that’s how you beat SF.
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Totally agreed. SF secondary is worst. If Andy Reid wants to beat SF, he got to take advantage of two bad corners back of SF. Go deep ball, that’s how you beat SF.
Chic-cardinals is clearly a 9ers homer, very biased, and has myopic vision. Just spouts useless trends
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
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Quote Originally Posted by sheeshmack101:
Chic-cardinals is clearly a 9ers homer, very biased, and has myopic vision. Just spouts useless trends
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
Trends or not, every mobile QB has its day. Russell Wilson smacked the Denver Broncos in a recent superbowl.
Like they said, your trends are irrelevant. Not saying Mahomes got this, but the fact is that it's a possibility a mobile qb can take the throne, they've been knocking on the door for quite some time now. Both teams are built for this.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
Trends or not, every mobile QB has its day. Russell Wilson smacked the Denver Broncos in a recent superbowl.
Like they said, your trends are irrelevant. Not saying Mahomes got this, but the fact is that it's a possibility a mobile qb can take the throne, they've been knocking on the door for quite some time now. Both teams are built for this.
I concur and I was also looking at the same games. I do feel like Mahomes has more targets as well as better that any of those other teams. In addition I think Mahomes is a far better passer than Jackson. I almost feel like this one could come down to who has the ball last. Either that or a KC blowout
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I concur and I was also looking at the same games. I do feel like Mahomes has more targets as well as better that any of those other teams. In addition I think Mahomes is a far better passer than Jackson. I almost feel like this one could come down to who has the ball last. Either that or a KC blowout
um.. its called trends. Mobile QBs suck in the big game for all the marbles.
the SF defense is obviously superior this season
Being a mobile QB can only help Patrick Mahomes since he's great in every aspect of throwing... smart, rocket arm, quick reactions, top tier accuracy, he has everything. Usually mobile QBs are lacking in their passing ability. This can obviously only be a good thing for him...
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
um.. its called trends. Mobile QBs suck in the big game for all the marbles.
the SF defense is obviously superior this season
Being a mobile QB can only help Patrick Mahomes since he's great in every aspect of throwing... smart, rocket arm, quick reactions, top tier accuracy, he has everything. Usually mobile QBs are lacking in their passing ability. This can obviously only be a good thing for him...
Chic-cardinals is clearly a 9ers homer, very biased, and has myopic vision. Just spouts useless trends
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game? lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
Was it the script of choosing in the top 7 the last seven years of the draft?
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by sheeshmack101:
Chic-cardinals is clearly a 9ers homer, very biased, and has myopic vision. Just spouts useless trends
are you 12 years old? i'm a Rams and packers fan from childhood.. but thats irrelevant. I picked niners to win SB in august because thats what the script hints told me. I could give a darn less who the team is. If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game? lol at useless trends. they are the ultimate tell tell trends. proof that history repeats itself.
Was it the script of choosing in the top 7 the last seven years of the draft?
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by sheeshmack101:
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success.
2-9 is still a negative trend
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success.
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
And what team was he on?
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2
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As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
man i missed those games this year on tv vs. SF
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success. 2-9 is still a negative trend
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
And what team was he on? He had four rockets up his a$$ so he was on the NASA team...As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2Mahomes is not a scrambling QB. Lol, the level of ignorance from "football" fans is hilarious when it comes to both the Chiefs and Mahomes. For this and many other reasons, even as a diehard 49er fan I will be putting a fuckton of money on the Chiefs.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
man i missed those games this year on tv vs. SF[/Quote
Explain what that means.
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Quote Originally Posted by statfreak:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by sheeshmack101:
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success. 2-9 is still a negative trend
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
And what team was he on? He had four rockets up his a$$ so he was on the NASA team...As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2Mahomes is not a scrambling QB. Lol, the level of ignorance from "football" fans is hilarious when it comes to both the Chiefs and Mahomes. For this and many other reasons, even as a diehard 49er fan I will be putting a fuckton of money on the Chiefs.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
man i missed those games this year on tv vs. SF[/Quote
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success. 2-9 is still a negative trend
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
And what team was he on? He had four rockets up his a$$ so he was on the NASA team...As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2Mahomes is not a scrambling QB. Lol, the level of ignorance from "football" fans is hilarious when it comes to both the Chiefs and Mahomes. For this and many other reasons, even as a diehard 49er fan I will be putting a fuckton of money on the Chiefs.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
man i missed those games this year on tv vs. SF[/Quote
Explain what that means.
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Quote Originally Posted by statfreak:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by sheeshmack101:
If I were a fan, why would I suspect a below total game?
For the quite obvious reason that anyone backing the niners, is doing so due to their defense. They think their defense will win the game outright by preventing the Chiefs from scoring, HENCE an UNDER lean to go with your biased homer NINERS pick.
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
2-9, and racism in action. The white scrambling QB has more success. 2-9 is still a negative trend
Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
Steve Young won a Superbowl
And what team was he on? He had four rockets up his a$$ so he was on the NASA team...As a Niner fan I am a huge fan of Steve Young but in all fairness he was on a stacked team in 94 with Jerry Rice, Deion, Jerry Rice, Ken Norton Jr, etx. With Russell in Seattle he had Marshawn and a stacked defense. Mahomes doesn’t have that kind of support like those 2Mahomes is not a scrambling QB. Lol, the level of ignorance from "football" fans is hilarious when it comes to both the Chiefs and Mahomes. For this and many other reasons, even as a diehard 49er fan I will be putting a fuckton of money on the Chiefs.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
what did mobile Cam do vs Denver? nothingwhat did mobile Elway do vs San Fran and NY and Washington ? nothing. What Did Fran do vs Raiders, Miami and Pittsburgh? Nothing.What did Kaepernick do? meh, lol close but ultimately nada.Mcnabb? relatively mobile, still nothing.Russell is 1-1.so.. mobile QBs are 1-9 by my list.Mahomes is still too young to be ready for the huge game
man i missed those games this year on tv vs. SF[/Quote
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