Thanks for all the input guys haven't been near a computer for the past few days. A couple posters mentioned there are better games out there but i am really having trouble trusting any team this NFL season the worst i can ever remember. This is one of the early games and iwill be watching it think it will be a good old smash mouth Oakland KC game fighting for a playoff spot as winner of the AFC west along with the Chargers. With the line still at +4 going to place a small wager on the Raiders 100/190.90. Biggest reason is Marcus is out and just don't think this KC team can turn around the downward spiral. Thanks again for the input.