One more point in support of the NFL against the regular refs

one more point for everyone who thinks the nfl should end the lockout and may have amnesia about the quality of the regular refs. 

if you assume it was a terrible call, and i agree, the replacement refs have to make the call in real time in a pile of people when it wasn't clear where tate's hands were and things were constantly changing in the pile.  i agree it was a bad call, but it's much easier to make the call watching it on dvr 10 times in slow motion, rewinding and pausing the tv than when you get one chance under pressure live with the homes fans a few feet away.

which brings me to my point.  the replay refs are regular officials.  the lockout did not affect replay officials.  these regular refs had the benefit of slow motion, different angles, pause, rewind and the comfort of an isolated room rather than being right next to the craziest fans in the league.  and they fucked up the call. 

if you were the nfl and you had shitty employees who think they are a much bigger part of the game than they are making demands, how quick would you be to give in to them.

fuck it, i'm going to try one more time.  everyone wants to pile on the replacement refs for everything they do wrong, that's the new espn trend this season and a lot of it is deserved.  but for anyone who wants the regular refs back immediately for whatever their demands are, answer this:

if you google anything about that game last night or watch 5 seconds of espn or any other idiot commentator, you will get endless articles and comments about how it was the worst call ever and how bad the replacement refs are.  why is there practically none of the same criticism of the regular refs in the replay booth who had much, much better circumstances to get the world call in history right and apparently fucked it up?

I agree. The regular Refs are the same.  They also mess up the game often too. 

point well taken

Here are the facts. The replay(regular official) cannot, I repeat, cannot reverse the call on the field concerning possession. That is the rule book, not the refs. The replay official can only rule if the ball was dropped or touched the ground before a catch was made. This has nothing to do with the replay official.

The difference is not some bad calls, but a string of them. Sure, regular refs make bad calls, too but not single reasonable person would agree to this extent. They are not familiar with the rules. They are neither physically nor mentally ready on this level. Are those even debatable??

tahoe is correct.  The replay guy had no choice but to go with the call on the field.

slow your roll dirt...you need to get your facts right.

 

there are no "regular officials" in the booth. the replay decision has been made soley by the ref, in the white hat, under the hood on the field this year.

fair enough

i was looking for this and found something that said differently.  but i'm not sure that source is any good. 

but then this was in vanzack's thread, probably something similar to what i read. 

That is not what the experts are saying all over the radio waves....retired refs etc.  Exact opposite is being said - the play could have been ruled an interception and reversed.

and shubox, i also read that the replay officials are not affected by the lockout and are regular refs.  hard to find good information in this mess.  if only there was an all sports channel that provided valuable football information.

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B, it seems like it would arguably be reviewable under (a)1, (a)2 and b(1) in your post. 

truck 

My point was these rules should be reviewed and changed so that any play that affects the results of the game should be reviewable

i'm going to bump this thread in honor of today's referee performance, particular green bay and a few others.  the nfl fucked up letting these guys win.  no, not because they aren't better than the replacement refs.  of course, they are much better.  but because they aren't very good for trained, full time refs and they needed a kick in the ass and they didn't get it.