This is not a baseless opinion from a guy who admittedly has only a rudimentary understanding of football (I do not feel qualifed to coach a team of third-graders); this is a simple analysis of data from Pro Football Reference.
JH - four seasons of playoff data only
Season/Rating
2021 60.0
2022 96.9
2023 100.9
2024 105.0
Season/YPRA
2021 4.9
2022 4.1
2023 5.0
2024 5.3
For those KC fans and bettors who believe there is NO way that JH could possibly outplay the indomitable PM, consider these facts and opinions:
This season, PM's PO rating is 105.2 and JH's is 105.0.
In his first PO game JH threw 2 INTs; in the next 7 he threw none.
Lifetime PO INT % - PM 1.1%, JH 0.9%
Per NFL.com passing DEF ratings, KC is 90.6 (#12) and PHL 82.5 (#3).
In my admittedly uneducated opinion, I expect Saquon Barkley to exert more influence on KC's linebackers than all of KC's rushers combined exert on PHL's.
Yes, Spagnuolo is very good and I have a mental bet on SB Under 112.5 rushing yards, but KC's concentration on SB leads me to a mental bet on JH Over 37.5 rushing yards. All of this shaky analysis lead me to take JH MVP +375 for one unit.
I am having a terrible year, so feel free to take all of this potential garbage as perfect fade material.
1
To remove first post, remove entire topic.
This is not a baseless opinion from a guy who admittedly has only a rudimentary understanding of football (I do not feel qualifed to coach a team of third-graders); this is a simple analysis of data from Pro Football Reference.
JH - four seasons of playoff data only
Season/Rating
2021 60.0
2022 96.9
2023 100.9
2024 105.0
Season/YPRA
2021 4.9
2022 4.1
2023 5.0
2024 5.3
For those KC fans and bettors who believe there is NO way that JH could possibly outplay the indomitable PM, consider these facts and opinions:
This season, PM's PO rating is 105.2 and JH's is 105.0.
In his first PO game JH threw 2 INTs; in the next 7 he threw none.
Lifetime PO INT % - PM 1.1%, JH 0.9%
Per NFL.com passing DEF ratings, KC is 90.6 (#12) and PHL 82.5 (#3).
In my admittedly uneducated opinion, I expect Saquon Barkley to exert more influence on KC's linebackers than all of KC's rushers combined exert on PHL's.
Yes, Spagnuolo is very good and I have a mental bet on SB Under 112.5 rushing yards, but KC's concentration on SB leads me to a mental bet on JH Over 37.5 rushing yards. All of this shaky analysis lead me to take JH MVP +375 for one unit.
I am having a terrible year, so feel free to take all of this potential garbage as perfect fade material.
BOL You make some strong points about Hurts' improvements. More experience usually adds to better performance and he has gotten a lot of that. I thought Hurts outplayed Mahomes in Superbowl 57. I was on the Chiefs then but I admired his performance.
The Sunset Kid drove to the beach at sundown. Watching the sun go down brought him luck.
1
BOL You make some strong points about Hurts' improvements. More experience usually adds to better performance and he has gotten a lot of that. I thought Hurts outplayed Mahomes in Superbowl 57. I was on the Chiefs then but I admired his performance.
In 2024 Hurts ranked #3 vs man coverage but only #22 vs zone. When opponents blitz, Hurts is sacked 13% of the time, highest rate in the league.
on the other side……the Eagles defense ranks 12th on pass plays on 3rd and 4th downs. On 3rd and 4th down with 6+ yards to go, Mahomes converts 51% of the time. No other QB in the last 5 years is over 50% in that category.
bottom line, Hurts has done an excellent job of improving his game over the years, but Mahomes has more experience and processes info a little faster, and I think that’ll be the difference in the game
GL with your plays
1
In 2024 Hurts ranked #3 vs man coverage but only #22 vs zone. When opponents blitz, Hurts is sacked 13% of the time, highest rate in the league.
on the other side……the Eagles defense ranks 12th on pass plays on 3rd and 4th downs. On 3rd and 4th down with 6+ yards to go, Mahomes converts 51% of the time. No other QB in the last 5 years is over 50% in that category.
bottom line, Hurts has done an excellent job of improving his game over the years, but Mahomes has more experience and processes info a little faster, and I think that’ll be the difference in the game
This is not a baseless opinion from a guy who admittedly has only a rudimentary understanding of football (I do not feel qualifed to coach a team of third-graders); this is a simple analysis of data from Pro Football Reference. JH - four seasons of playoff data only Season/Rating 2021 60.0 2022 96.9 2023 100.9 2024 105.0 Season/YPRA 2021 4.9 2022 4.1 2023 5.0 2024 5.3 For those KC fans and bettors who believe there is NO way that JH could possibly outplay the indomitable PM, consider these facts and opinions: This season, PM's PO rating is 105.2 and JH's is 105.0. In his first PO game JH threw 2 INTs; in the next 7 he threw none. Lifetime PO INT % - PM 1.1%, JH 0.9% Per NFL.com passing DEF ratings, KC is 90.6 (#12) and PHL 82.5 (#3). In my admittedly uneducated opinion, I expect Saquon Barkley to exert more influence on KC's linebackers than all of KC's rushers combined exert on PHL's. Yes, Spagnuolo is very good and I have a mental bet on SB Under 112.5 rushing yards, but KC's concentration on SB leads me to a mental bet on JH Over 37.5 rushing yards. All of this shaky analysis lead me to take JH MVP +375 for one unit. I am having a terrible year, so feel free to take all of this potential garbage as perfect fade material.
I think this is: OUTSTANDING!!......................................................gl
1
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
This is not a baseless opinion from a guy who admittedly has only a rudimentary understanding of football (I do not feel qualifed to coach a team of third-graders); this is a simple analysis of data from Pro Football Reference. JH - four seasons of playoff data only Season/Rating 2021 60.0 2022 96.9 2023 100.9 2024 105.0 Season/YPRA 2021 4.9 2022 4.1 2023 5.0 2024 5.3 For those KC fans and bettors who believe there is NO way that JH could possibly outplay the indomitable PM, consider these facts and opinions: This season, PM's PO rating is 105.2 and JH's is 105.0. In his first PO game JH threw 2 INTs; in the next 7 he threw none. Lifetime PO INT % - PM 1.1%, JH 0.9% Per NFL.com passing DEF ratings, KC is 90.6 (#12) and PHL 82.5 (#3). In my admittedly uneducated opinion, I expect Saquon Barkley to exert more influence on KC's linebackers than all of KC's rushers combined exert on PHL's. Yes, Spagnuolo is very good and I have a mental bet on SB Under 112.5 rushing yards, but KC's concentration on SB leads me to a mental bet on JH Over 37.5 rushing yards. All of this shaky analysis lead me to take JH MVP +375 for one unit. I am having a terrible year, so feel free to take all of this potential garbage as perfect fade material.
I think this is: OUTSTANDING!!......................................................gl
With the Maturity of Hurts as you mentioned and the addition to a running back that is one of the best to play in his position since that Superbowl two years past it really does make one wonder......what's with all the love for the Chiefs when hands down the Eagles are the better team and come Sunday night them Chiefs will be back in their tee pees having a pow wow and wondering what went wrong.
Hurts MVP?
Most Superbowl MVP is handed to the quarterback and if it's not him then Barkley but hey at a plus 375 why not take that gamble....good luck Dogbite
1
With the Maturity of Hurts as you mentioned and the addition to a running back that is one of the best to play in his position since that Superbowl two years past it really does make one wonder......what's with all the love for the Chiefs when hands down the Eagles are the better team and come Sunday night them Chiefs will be back in their tee pees having a pow wow and wondering what went wrong.
Hurts MVP?
Most Superbowl MVP is handed to the quarterback and if it's not him then Barkley but hey at a plus 375 why not take that gamble....good luck Dogbite
With the Maturity of Hurts as you mentioned and the addition to a running back that is one of the best to play in his position since that Superbowl two years past it really does make one wonder......what's with all the love for the Chiefs when hands down the Eagles are the better team and come Sunday night them Chiefs will be back in their tee pees having a pow wow and wondering what went wrong. Hurts MVP? Most Superbowl MVP is handed to the quarterback and if it's not him then Barkley but hey at a plus 375 why not take that gamble....good luck Dogbite
GMTA, JLTP. You read my mind exactly.
0
Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:
With the Maturity of Hurts as you mentioned and the addition to a running back that is one of the best to play in his position since that Superbowl two years past it really does make one wonder......what's with all the love for the Chiefs when hands down the Eagles are the better team and come Sunday night them Chiefs will be back in their tee pees having a pow wow and wondering what went wrong. Hurts MVP? Most Superbowl MVP is handed to the quarterback and if it's not him then Barkley but hey at a plus 375 why not take that gamble....good luck Dogbite
As I have said several times, I am not a skilled observer. Feel free to disagree with me.
I am glad that JH won the MVP for this particular game, but IMHO it wasn't that JH played great and PM stunk up the joint, but that both of PHL's lines were totally dominant.
0
As I have said several times, I am not a skilled observer. Feel free to disagree with me.
I am glad that JH won the MVP for this particular game, but IMHO it wasn't that JH played great and PM stunk up the joint, but that both of PHL's lines were totally dominant.
Good pick with Hurts winning MVP in the big game..The Eagles did a very good job with putting pieces around him to succeed over recent years..(Defense,Barkley,Online)
Hurts threw over 200 yards yesterday and the Eagles finished the season 10-0 when he did throw for 200+ yards this season
1
@DogbiteWilliams
Good pick with Hurts winning MVP in the big game..The Eagles did a very good job with putting pieces around him to succeed over recent years..(Defense,Barkley,Online)
Hurts threw over 200 yards yesterday and the Eagles finished the season 10-0 when he did throw for 200+ yards this season
If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on
this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide
any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in
your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner
of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.