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Might have to trust they will keep this one close too. Can't see Steve Smith not going off tonight. He plays with a lot of passion and hates being humiliated.
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Ravens haven't lost this year by more than 6
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I think the whole 'they haven't lost by that much' argument is a bit silly as it seems to be almost everyone's reasoning for taking Baltimore, and I am seeing so many Baltimore picks. Losing close games to bad teams like SF and Cleveland does not make them an attractive option when you consider Arizona scored 22 vs the Rams last home game and the Rams defense is miles ahead of Baltimore's.
Maybe Baltimore can get some breaks like a turnover to keep it close, but considering they haven't had a takeaway in their last 3 games and they are giving up huge yards in the passing game I just don't see the sense in taking the points to hope they keep it close again. This defense is not one bit like the past Baltimore Defenses.
I like those small 3-6 point dogs in the NFL. The worst performing teams tend to get really beat up on each week when they have a bad year and I don't see them turning it around against a solid team who hasn't won a home game since September and now has a prime time audience as well.
I'm on the Over but I don't see where the improvement needed is going to come from on this Baltimore team. They have Flacco and Smith in Offense and Mosley and Smith on D, no one else is stepping up. They will need to get to Palmer early and often to have a chance, otherwise I see a blowout.
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I had a terrible Sunday I'll admit it happens but I'll take Balt +10 and over 49 that's the line at BET US playing the parlay 500 to win 1300.00 hope my theory in Baseball works on this football game you poke a hornets nest and your gonna get stung the Baltimore players get paid too and they also have pride! Also Jim Feist released the over tonight as a Platinum play that's his largest play other than game of the month or game of the year, good luck to everyone
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Quote Originally Posted by PhillyBrown:
I think the whole 'they haven't lost by that much' argument is a bit silly as it seems to be almost everyone's reasoning for taking Baltimore, and I am seeing so many Baltimore picks. Losing close games to bad teams like SF and Cleveland does not make them an attractive option when you consider Arizona scored 22 vs the Rams last home game and the Rams defense is miles ahead of Baltimore's.
I think the whole 'they haven't lost by that much' argument is a bit silly as it seems to be almost everyone's reasoning for taking Baltimore, and I am seeing so many Baltimore picks. Losing close games to bad teams like SF and Cleveland does not make them an attractive option when you consider Arizona scored 22 vs the Rams last home game and the Rams defense is miles ahead of Baltimore's.
Maybe Baltimore can get some breaks like a turnover to keep it close, but considering they haven't had a takeaway in their last 3 games and they are giving up huge yards in the passing game I just don't see the sense in taking the points to hope they keep it close again. This defense is not one bit like the past Baltimore Defenses.
I like those small 3-6 point dogs in the NFL. The worst performing teams tend to get really beat up on each week when they have a bad year and I don't see them turning it around against a solid team who hasn't won a home game since September and now has a prime time audience as well.
I'm on the Over but I don't see where the improvement needed is going to come from on this Baltimore team. They have Flacco and Smith in Offense and Mosley and Smith on D, no one else is stepping up. They will need to get to Palmer early and often to have a chance, otherwise I see a blowout.
I def. agree. I just think defensively you can move the ball on Baltimore. And for the Ravens to travel across country against an angry Cardinals team, I think it will be tough to get it going for Flacco and company.
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:
Quote Originally Posted by thenerveagent:
And Miami hadn't won by 30+ until yesterday - AZ 28-10
Apples and Oranges...go check Baltimore's ATS record as a dog............let alone +9.5 dog since Flacco came aboardAnd Miami hadn't won by 30+ until yesterday - AZ 28-10
Flacco has never been that big of a dog in his career
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Ravens have always won with defense and just enough Offense. They don't have the defense any more and unless Forsett starts running well again they don't score enough or hold the ball enough to overcome a Defense that gives up so many passing yards and never gets any fumbles or picks. They don't have Ed Reed running in pick6s any more it's just not a good Defense.
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:
Apples and Oranges...go check Baltimore's ATS record as a dog............let alone +9.5 dog since Flacco came aboard
Apples and Oranges...go check Baltimore's ATS record as a dog............let alone +9.5 dog since Flacco came aboard
Yes, apples and oranges. Baltimore really hasn't had a team this shitty in all that time have they?
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Who cares about past ATS records with Ravens and Flacco?!?!
Those records have a Ray Lewis, Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed defense in them!
Past years mean nothing to tonight's game! This is NOT the same Raven's team. It's that simple.
If you looked at the Patriots 16-0 Season you would think they would go 16-0 the season after because their past straight up record says so! LMAOOOOOOOO
These are hilarious reasons you're using to back the Ravens!
Carson Palmer can win the game for the Ravens, that's the only way. Otherwise Ravens lose by double digits.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:
Apples and Oranges...go check Baltimore's ATS record as a dog............let alone +9.5 dog since Flacco came aboard
Flacco has never been that big of a dog in his career
Apples and Oranges...go check Baltimore's ATS record as a dog............let alone +9.5 dog since Flacco came aboard
Flacco has never been that big of a dog in his career
He's never played for such a bad team in his career either though. They have been shocking this season.
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Quote Originally Posted by Buzz44:
No need to get mad at me, I didn't know I was betting with some of yall money. Sorry
No need to get mad at me, I didn't know I was betting with some of yall money. Sorry
For the record Buzz, my comment was directed to the guy who thinks past ATS performance is a sign of future results. I don't think people were disagreeing with you so much as they were him.
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Quote Originally Posted by UpperEchelon:
Quote Originally Posted by Buzz44:
No need to get mad at me, I didn't know I was betting with some of yall money. Sorry
For the record Buzz, my comment was directed to the guy who thinks past ATS performance is a sign of future results. I don't think people were disagreeing with you so much as they were him.No need to get mad at me, I didn't know I was betting with some of yall money. Sorry
I was just trying to say that they have been in all of those games and I can't see them getting blown out bro. They have kept games close even with the fact they haven't played all that well. I think they will keep it close personally. It's not like we are talking about an awesome team in the Cardinals, I'm a steelers fan and we beat them with Mike Vick and our third string qb.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Buzz44] For the record Buzz, my comment was directed to the guy who thinks past ATS performance is a sign of future results. I don't think people were disagreeing with you so much as they were him.
I was just trying to say that they have been in all of those games and I can't see them getting blown out bro. They have kept games close even with the fact they haven't played all that well. I think they will keep it close personally. It's not like we are talking about an awesome team in the Cardinals, I'm a steelers fan and we beat them with Mike Vick and our third string qb.
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I was just trying to say that they have been in all of those games and I can't see them getting blown out bro. They have kept games close even with the fact they haven't played all that well. I think they will keep it close personally. It's not like we are talking about an awesome team in the Cardinals, I'm a steelers fan and we beat them with Mike Vick and our third string qb.
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Ravens have a worse defense than the Steelers. Landry Jones is better than Vick. He may be listed as 3rd string but I don't buy that. Anyone with eyes can see they're better off with Jones than Vick.
When Arizona was up 7-3 they got a TD nullified because of offensive pass interference. Settled for a FG making it 10-3 Arizona.
Fast forward to when John Brown fumbles the ball at the Arizona 27 and PIT recovers. Scores a TD. Score is now 12-10 PIT.
Fast forward to when Carson Palmer is intercepted at PIT 20 yard line. Which takes away at least a FG chance for Arizona. Then PIT throws it up and the Cardinals secondary breaksdown and they get an 88-yard TD to Bryant. Score 25-13 PIT.
Moral of the story?? 14 points off turnovers for Steelers and Cardinals going 1-4 in the redzone.
Imagine there's no offensive pass interference call, Arizona 14-3.
Imagine they make that missed FG. Arizona 17-3.
Imagie no points off turnovers for Steelers, 17-10 Arizona.
Imagine that redzone interception from Carson Palmer could've been at least FG. 20-10 Arizona.
I don't remember all the other miscues but this game could've easily been 24-10 Arizona or 27-10 Arizona.
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