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DAL +150
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WAS +300

If you think about it... Kirk is the best qb in the division.
 
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Kirk is the best qb in the division.

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At this moment i believe so sir
 
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If QBs were based on just one productive season then yes he's the best qb in the division, but I strongly disagree with that statement.

Its Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Kirk Cousins, Sam Bradford

 
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im talking hoy hand, you obviously know he had top 5 qbr last year and he's not throwing to obj.
 
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You can't judge a QB on one season of production no way, I still rank him below Eli and Romo. If he has another season like last year than thats a different story
 
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Are you guy's watching these games? Seriously? Dude was straight fire
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FADE_me88:

DAL +150
NYG +210
WAS +300

If you think about it... Kirk is the best qb in the division.


Kirk Cousins has ZERO career wins vs. teams who finished the season with a winning record. ZERO.

This guy was straight fire when he played bottom-10 defenses.

The Redskins' offensive schedule in 2015:
PPG: #23
NYPPA: #24
Adj. sack rate: #30
DVOA pass: #23
DVOA 3rd down: #28

He is everything but the best QB within the division.
 
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He's playing the quarterback position more efficiently. Just under 70% accuracy, 101 qbr, he doesn't turn the ball over
 
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The point is Nick Foles hand an immaculate 2014 season, how'd he do in 2015? Regardless of the team change a QB being judged after 1 season would suggest he'd have another incredible season?

Same with Kirk, not saying he'll be bad...just hasn't proved himself yet.
 
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They had a favorable schedule but the guy threw over 300 yards 7 times last year and was 10 yards away from 8. We will see what happens in 16'
 
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The Redskins run a basic West Coast offense.  Kirk threw majority of his passes short (5 yards or less).  This is part of why his completion percentage is buffed.  The second reason is his supporting cast.  His receivers didn't drop ANYTHING.  That includes his poor and/or ill-advised passes Kirk threw.  And, his offensive line was much improved from the previous season.  The third reason points to his decision making, sample size, and the quality of defenses he faced.  His numbers suggest he improved in the second part of the season, but he faced bad defenses.  So he might of made better decisions,  but it was only during a handful of games which were against low-quality defenses.  

Some things to consider after having read the points above...

How do we know his completion percentage is bunk?  
Compare his Completion Percentage with his Accuracy Percentage.  Accuracy Percentage is the percentage of throws that were accurate out of his attempts.  Kirk had 589 Attempts > 422 Accurate Throws and 131 Inaccurate Throws.  For an Accuracy Percentage of 76.3.  That is 20th in the league - below average.  He has the highest Completion Percentage but a below average Accuracy Percentage because his receivers over-performed (referenced above i.e. receivers caught inaccurate passes).

How did he amass all those yards?
It has to do with Simple YAC and YAC.  YAC is Yards After the Catch.  Simple YAC is Yards After the Catch within Two Yards (like, screens).  These are useful stats to read into receivers and quarterbacks.  In the second half of Kirk's season a large chunk of his passing yards were not from him airing it out - it was from his receivers making plays after the catch.  

He's a bad quarterback.  He is inaccurate and un-intelligent in a basic offensive system.  

"Cousins threw 17 interceptable passes over the first eight games of the season. 17 interceptable passes is more than 18 quarterbacks threw all season long."  -FO

He does have some athleticism, but other than that skillset - that's really it.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



Kirk Cousins has ZERO career wins vs. teams who finished the season with a winning record. ZERO.

This guy was straight fire when he played bottom-10 defenses.

The Redskins' offensive schedule in 2015:
PPG: #23
NYPPA: #24
Adj. sack rate: #30
DVOA pass: #23
DVOA 3rd down: #28

He is everything but the best QB within the division.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2016/film-room-kirk-cousins

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Slick100:

The Redskins run a basic West Coast offense.  Kirk threw majority of his passes short (5 yards or less).  This is part of why his completion percentage is buffed.  The second reason is his supporting cast.  His receivers didn't drop ANYTHING.  That includes his poor and/or ill-advised passes Kirk threw.  And, his offensive line was much improved from the previous season.  The third reason points to his decision making, sample size, and the quality of defenses he faced.  His numbers suggest he improved in the second part of the season, but he faced bad defenses.  So he might of made better decisions,  but it was only during a handful of games which were against low-quality defenses.  

Some things to consider after having read the points above...

How do we know his completion percentage is bunk?  
Compare his Completion Percentage with his Accuracy Percentage.  Accuracy Percentage is the percentage of throws that were accurate out of his attempts.  Kirk had 589 Attempts > 422 Accurate Throws and 131 Inaccurate Throws.  For an Accuracy Percentage of 76.3.  That is 20th in the league - below average.  He has the highest Completion Percentage but a below average Accuracy Percentage because his receivers over-performed (referenced above i.e. receivers caught inaccurate passes).

How did he amass all those yards?
It has to do with Simple YAC and YAC.  YAC is Yards After the Catch.  Simple YAC is Yards After the Catch within Two Yards (like, screens).  These are useful stats to read into receivers and quarterbacks.  In the second half of Kirk's season a large chunk of his passing yards were not from him airing it out - it was from his receivers making plays after the catch.  

He's a bad quarterback.  He is inaccurate and un-intelligent in a basic offensive system.  

"Cousins threw 17 interceptable passes over the first eight games of the season. 17 interceptable passes is more than 18 quarterbacks threw all season long."  -FO

He does have some athleticism, but other than that skillset - that's really it.  
ican tell you watched a lot of redskin games, Kirk was throwing bombs all season, and in the patriot game he put the ball in the recievers hands and they all dropped the passes. So please sleep on the Redskins, you will be sorry!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by cocky24:

ican tell you watched a lot of redskin games, Kirk was throwing bombs all season, and in the patriot game he put the ball in the recievers hands and they all dropped the passes. So please sleep on the Redskins, you will be sorry!

Cousins throwing bombs all season 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2016/film-room-kirk-cousins

 
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Eli Manning has two Super Bowl MVPs in case you forgot 
 
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I've watched some Skins game and 2 things that aren't true are:

1. Redskins are disrespected and 2. Cousins is a bad QB.

2016 however brings many uknowns...how will their running game be? How well can their front 7 handle the run game? Can their special team ( kickoff and punt) finally do something? How will Cousins and CO.  compete with above .500 team ( LY team was killed by : NE, GB, Carolina, an NY Jets).

Everyone and their mama knows their record and offensive production is great because of their performance against sub .500 teams. 

How will 2016 be?

1 st game as +3 home dogs vs a 10 win team.  Funny line, considering they lost by double digits vs. good teams LY. If your going with LY performance, this line should be closer to 6-7? I think the books respect the team by putting out that line... the public doesn't and will continue to hammer Steelers. 

I think defensively they'll improve ( Gallete, Norman, and 2nd year player Smith will help)  Cousins will play it safe and do whhat he did best LY to get him that big contract. Offensively/Defensively they'll gel. I think Matt Jones will be a 1100/10TD kind of RB. 

My prediction :  9 wins, Cousins signs a franchise tag, and they finally open the season with a win (3-4 years in the making?) 





 
 
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9 wins last year but not one against a team with a better than .500 record. Eli and Tony are better and it's not even close. I could name 8-10 in the nfc alone that are better. 

Rodgers
Brees 
Newton
Ryan
Romo
Manning
Wilson
Palmer 

And Cutler/Stafford are both debatable
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