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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2014 - 12:04 AM ET #26

    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...
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    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2014 - 9:19 PM ET #27

    Sleeper teams.
    Bengals, Vikings and Cardinals.
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    Sleeper teams.
    Bengals, Vikings and Cardinals.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2014 - 11:11 PM ET #28

    Bengals made the playoffs. Cards are good . Vikings win 5.
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    Bengals made the playoffs. Cards are good . Vikings win 5.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 20, 2014 - 11:25 PM ET #29

    I like falcons and chargers.  Ive already bet both to win super bowl.  Falcons are 50/1, chargers are 55/1.  very good value here.
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    I like falcons and chargers.  Ive already bet both to win super bowl.  Falcons are 50/1, chargers are 55/1.  very good value here.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 8:45 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:

    Colts: Luck is growing every years by leaps and bounds. Richardson should do better and they drafted for the offense line. Also they have a weak schedule.

    Bears: Numerous free agent signings to strengthen their defense. Jared Allen will lead the defense and fill the leadership void when Urlacher was booted out of town. Cutler will be in the second season of a new system and worked with the coaches all off season. He must stay healthy. They had a good draft getting two huge DT's and a sleeper RB. Take notice. 25 to 1 odds for the Super bowl.

    Falcons and Ravens.  Both teams are re-tooled and healthy from let down seasons last year.

    bears....nah i think jared allen will be slower on natural grass....not like the dome in minny....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:

    Colts: Luck is growing every years by leaps and bounds. Richardson should do better and they drafted for the offense line. Also they have a weak schedule.

    Bears: Numerous free agent signings to strengthen their defense. Jared Allen will lead the defense and fill the leadership void when Urlacher was booted out of town. Cutler will be in the second season of a new system and worked with the coaches all off season. He must stay healthy. They had a good draft getting two huge DT's and a sleeper RB. Take notice. 25 to 1 odds for the Super bowl.

    Falcons and Ravens.  Both teams are re-tooled and healthy from let down seasons last year.

    bears....nah i think jared allen will be slower on natural grass....not like the dome in minny....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 12:10 PM ET #31

    Giants and Cards for NFC.

    Bengals and Texans for AFC.
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    Giants and Cards for NFC.

    Bengals and Texans for AFC.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 12:26 PM ET #32

    The nfc south is a tough division, atl, no, and even carolina can repeat again. Watch Newton succed thgis year for two reasons, 1) smith and his attitude are gone and 2) all the talk this offseason about the problems at WR. they wont be as bad as last year in yards per receiver.

    Atl can be tough if that defence can step up. NO, never count out Drew.

    TB just sucks, let go of Revis with nothing in return. go figure.

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    The nfc south is a tough division, atl, no, and even carolina can repeat again. Watch Newton succed thgis year for two reasons, 1) smith and his attitude are gone and 2) all the talk this offseason about the problems at WR. they wont be as bad as last year in yards per receiver.

    Atl can be tough if that defence can step up. NO, never count out Drew.

    TB just sucks, let go of Revis with nothing in return. go figure.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 5:08 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    bears....nah i think jared allen will be slower on natural grass....not like the dome in minny....


    Not only that, even when I was a kid, we had a name for QB's that just stood in the pocket and took the sack instead of moving around - "Totem Pole". Cutler, much like Marino is a "Totem Pole", but an even bigger gina version of it. 3 step drop, either you hand it off, rifle it to a receiver, or take the sack. Why do you think Cutler is like the most sacked QB of the last 3 years? "Totem Pole". Bears will never win the "Big Game" with Cutler at QB, they would've have a better chance with Rex Grossman...... "Totem Pole" - remember it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett:

    bears....nah i think jared allen will be slower on natural grass....not like the dome in minny....


    Not only that, even when I was a kid, we had a name for QB's that just stood in the pocket and took the sack instead of moving around - "Totem Pole". Cutler, much like Marino is a "Totem Pole", but an even bigger gina version of it. 3 step drop, either you hand it off, rifle it to a receiver, or take the sack. Why do you think Cutler is like the most sacked QB of the last 3 years? "Totem Pole". Bears will never win the "Big Game" with Cutler at QB, they would've have a better chance with Rex Grossman...... "Totem Pole" - remember it.....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 11:04 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:


    much like Marino is a "Totem Pole"



    watch your mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:


    much like Marino is a "Totem Pole"



    watch your mouth.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 11:07 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2014 - 11:11 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.

    What did Marino do. Or Jim Kelley for the matter
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.

    What did Marino do. Or Jim Kelley for the matter
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 9:47 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.

    Not saying Marino wasn't a great passer, hell, how many records did/does the guy have? But, how many "rushing" (let's call it "scrambling out of the pocket to keep a play alive") yards did he have? 87........ Not 87 yards per game, or even an average of 87 per season, we're talking 87 OVER AN ENTIRE CAREER!!!!!! And that's with like 300 rushing "attempts", so do the math. Cutler's the same guy - 3 step drop, handoff or pass, or eat dirt......

    "Totem Pole" - never won the Big Game, neither will Cutler. Sorry if you can't handle cold hard facts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by earthWake:



    watch your mouth.

    Not saying Marino wasn't a great passer, hell, how many records did/does the guy have? But, how many "rushing" (let's call it "scrambling out of the pocket to keep a play alive") yards did he have? 87........ Not 87 yards per game, or even an average of 87 per season, we're talking 87 OVER AN ENTIRE CAREER!!!!!! And that's with like 300 rushing "attempts", so do the math. Cutler's the same guy - 3 step drop, handoff or pass, or eat dirt......

    "Totem Pole" - never won the Big Game, neither will Cutler. Sorry if you can't handle cold hard facts...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 1:16 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:


     

    "Totem Pole" - never won the Big Game, neither will Cutler. Sorry if you can't handle cold hard facts...

    didn't Peyton Manning win the SB ?

    I agree that Cutler is not the man.. but u cannot compare him to the likes of Dan Marino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:


     

    "Totem Pole" - never won the Big Game, neither will Cutler. Sorry if you can't handle cold hard facts...

    didn't Peyton Manning win the SB ?

    I agree that Cutler is not the man.. but u cannot compare him to the likes of Dan Marino.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 1:21 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:


    What did Marino do.

    he had more NFL records as a QB when he retired than ur football IQ 

    if u think winning the super bowl is just about the QB, u forgot the RB, WR, offensive line, def line, DB, the coaching staff, the special team, and the even the way the ball bounces. Its still a team game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:


    What did Marino do.

    he had more NFL records as a QB when he retired than ur football IQ 

    if u think winning the super bowl is just about the QB, u forgot the RB, WR, offensive line, def line, DB, the coaching staff, the special team, and the even the way the ball bounces. Its still a team game.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 5:11 PM ET #40

    You don't have to win super bowls to be a great QB. Its not basketball theres so many variables in football. Now if everyone but the QB plays good in big games thats different. But Peyton Manning and Dan Marino are two of the top three greatest of all time. Cutler is not a Super Bowl type QB but i would take him any day over Flucco. And hes won a super bowl. 
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    You don't have to win super bowls to be a great QB. Its not basketball theres so many variables in football. Now if everyone but the QB plays good in big games thats different. But Peyton Manning and Dan Marino are two of the top three greatest of all time. Cutler is not a Super Bowl type QB but i would take him any day over Flucco. And hes won a super bowl. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    didn't Peyton Manning win the SB ?

    I agree that Cutler is not the man.. but u cannot compare him to the likes of Dan Marino.

    O.K. - just so we're all on the same page:

    Peyton Manning - yeah, the guy's pretty "wooden", but one key difference - he can read defenses

    Same thing with "Tommy Terrific" - only in his case it's better coaching.....

    How many times do you see these two future H.O.F.'ers picking themselves up off the turf after a hard hit? Three, maybe four times a season? Now, compare that to "Totem Pole Base" "Chief Sitting Cutler".......

    The guy is a third off the bench backup at best. Somehow everybody's been brainwashed into thinking he's some great football intellect combined with a cannon arm. I mean for God's sake! The guy steps in last year after another "feminine" injury for Cutler and (arguably) plays better than Jay ever could have dreamed! Bears let this guy go to the Bucs for basically nothing, and spend untold MILLIONS on a nothing in Cutler?

    My prediction (and I've seen the schedule) - The "BOO-BIRDS" come out at Soldier field by week, ehhhhh, 9 or so..... Pretty soft early on, but no playoffs this year.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    didn't Peyton Manning win the SB ?

    I agree that Cutler is not the man.. but u cannot compare him to the likes of Dan Marino.

    O.K. - just so we're all on the same page:

    Peyton Manning - yeah, the guy's pretty "wooden", but one key difference - he can read defenses

    Same thing with "Tommy Terrific" - only in his case it's better coaching.....

    How many times do you see these two future H.O.F.'ers picking themselves up off the turf after a hard hit? Three, maybe four times a season? Now, compare that to "Totem Pole Base" "Chief Sitting Cutler".......

    The guy is a third off the bench backup at best. Somehow everybody's been brainwashed into thinking he's some great football intellect combined with a cannon arm. I mean for God's sake! The guy steps in last year after another "feminine" injury for Cutler and (arguably) plays better than Jay ever could have dreamed! Bears let this guy go to the Bucs for basically nothing, and spend untold MILLIONS on a nothing in Cutler?

    My prediction (and I've seen the schedule) - The "BOO-BIRDS" come out at Soldier field by week, ehhhhh, 9 or so..... Pretty soft early on, but no playoffs this year.......

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:

    O.K. - just so we're all on the same page:

    Peyton Manning - yeah, the guy's pretty "wooden", but one key difference - he can read defenses

    Same thing with "Tommy Terrific" - only in his case it's better coaching.....

    How many times do you see these two future H.O.F.'ers picking themselves up off the turf after a hard hit? Three, maybe four times a season? Now, compare that to "Totem Pole Base" "Chief Sitting Cutler".......

    The guy is a third off the bench backup at best. Somehow everybody's been brainwashed into thinking he's some great football intellect combined with a cannon arm. I mean for God's sake! {Sorry, Josh McCown here} The guy steps in last year after another "feminine" injury for Cutler and (arguably) plays better than Jay ever could have dreamed! Bears let this guy go to the Bucs for basically nothing, and spend untold MILLIONS on a nothing in Cutler?

    My prediction (and I've seen the schedule) - The "BOO-BIRDS" come out at Soldier field by week, ehhhhh, 9 or so..... Pretty soft early on, but no playoffs this year.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybeam:

    O.K. - just so we're all on the same page:

    Peyton Manning - yeah, the guy's pretty "wooden", but one key difference - he can read defenses

    Same thing with "Tommy Terrific" - only in his case it's better coaching.....

    How many times do you see these two future H.O.F.'ers picking themselves up off the turf after a hard hit? Three, maybe four times a season? Now, compare that to "Totem Pole Base" "Chief Sitting Cutler".......

    The guy is a third off the bench backup at best. Somehow everybody's been brainwashed into thinking he's some great football intellect combined with a cannon arm. I mean for God's sake! {Sorry, Josh McCown here} The guy steps in last year after another "feminine" injury for Cutler and (arguably) plays better than Jay ever could have dreamed! Bears let this guy go to the Bucs for basically nothing, and spend untold MILLIONS on a nothing in Cutler?

    My prediction (and I've seen the schedule) - The "BOO-BIRDS" come out at Soldier field by week, ehhhhh, 9 or so..... Pretty soft early on, but no playoffs this year.......

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 8:26 PM ET #43

    Jimmy, my point was:

    1- Cutler is not a good QB

    2- so don't compare him to Dan Marino

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    Jimmy, my point was:

    1- Cutler is not a good QB

    2- so don't compare him to Dan Marino

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2014 - 9:35 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue4TheWin:

    Giants and Cards for NFC.

    Bengals and Texans for AFC.

    Texans win 4 games
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue4TheWin:

    Giants and Cards for NFC.

    Bengals and Texans for AFC.

    Texans win 4 games
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2014 - 9:31 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    Jimmy, my point was:

    1- Cutler is not a good QB

    2- so don't compare him to Dan Marino


    I'll drink to that!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CC12:

    Jimmy, my point was:

    1- Cutler is not a good QB

    2- so don't compare him to Dan Marino


    I'll drink to that!!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2014 - 6:42 PM ET #46

    I do like the Skins as a sleeper this year and potentially the Fins as well. This is mainly due to the Cowboys being horrific again on D and believing that the Eagles will regress at least somewhat. RG3 was a shell of himself last year and if you watched him over the years, he literally had no explosion off his leg whatsoever at times. Obviously affects the way he plants, follows through, and most importantly his mental game. He might just be incapable of staying healthy in the league, but Skins ML at Houston and Miami catching 4 vs the Patriots both look enticing for the first week..
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    I do like the Skins as a sleeper this year and potentially the Fins as well. This is mainly due to the Cowboys being horrific again on D and believing that the Eagles will regress at least somewhat. RG3 was a shell of himself last year and if you watched him over the years, he literally had no explosion off his leg whatsoever at times. Obviously affects the way he plants, follows through, and most importantly his mental game. He might just be incapable of staying healthy in the league, but Skins ML at Houston and Miami catching 4 vs the Patriots both look enticing for the first week..
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2014 - 7:03 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:


    Texans win 4 games

    Dude, you don't have all the answers.

    Please post your plays so I can fade you this year. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:


    Texans win 4 games

    Dude, you don't have all the answers.

    Please post your plays so I can fade you this year. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2014 - 12:24 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...

    came here to post AZ also, good bet
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...

    came here to post AZ also, good bet
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2014 - 2:33 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

    Jax over total wins



    Haha, I totally agree. Saw the OU at 5 last Sunday, researched the division and their schedule, and put a decent bet on that. If they lose to the Browns, I'll feel like a dumbass though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetdrm:

    Jax over total wins



    Haha, I totally agree. Saw the OU at 5 last Sunday, researched the division and their schedule, and put a decent bet on that. If they lose to the Browns, I'll feel like a dumbass though.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2014 - 2:36 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...

    I took them to win the NFC at 22-1 and to win the NFC West at 8.5-1. LB is one of the easiest positions in the NFL to replace, but their safety situation is what worries me a little more (bad safeties tend to give up huge plays).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    Took Arizona at 40-1  and 20-1 to win NFC.......saw them beat Seahawks in Seattle end of the season last year...their Defense is for Real.....GL...

    I took them to win the NFC at 22-1 and to win the NFC West at 8.5-1. LB is one of the easiest positions in the NFL to replace, but their safety situation is what worries me a little more (bad safeties tend to give up huge plays).
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