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    Something isn’t right, AFC is -120 to win SB BUT SF is favored

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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2024 - 10:46 PM ET #1

    As of this moment 

    AFC to win SB -120

    NFC to win SB +100

    However - the SB odds by team is as follows

    49ERS  +145

    RAVENS +180

    KC + 380

    LIONS + 800

    What am I missing here ?

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    As of this moment 

    AFC to win SB -120

    NFC to win SB +100

    However - the SB odds by team is as follows

    49ERS  +145

    RAVENS +180

    KC + 380

    LIONS + 800

    What am I missing here ?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2024 - 10:50 PM ET #2

    Well......what if the Lions win. 

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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2024 - 10:54 PM ET #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Well......what if the Lions win. Then you're  holding Lions -120 ML

    exactly. Except it be even money. Niners are favored vs balti and kc. -1.5 vs balti and -3 vs kc

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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    Well......what if the Lions win. Then you're  holding Lions -120 ML

    exactly. Except it be even money. Niners are favored vs balti and kc. -1.5 vs balti and -3 vs kc

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 12:55 AM ET #4

    Chiefs are going to win the SB...again

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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 1:27 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    As of this moment  AFC to win SB -120 NFC to win SB +100 However - the SB odds by team is as follows 49ERS  +145 RAVENS +180 KC + 380 LIONS + 800 What am I missing here ?
    bro it's because the niners have an easier path to the sb. They're 7 point favorite 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    As of this moment  AFC to win SB -120 NFC to win SB +100 However - the SB odds by team is as follows 49ERS  +145 RAVENS +180 KC + 380 LIONS + 800 What am I missing here ?
    bro it's because the niners have an easier path to the sb. They're 7 point favorite 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 2:54 AM ET #6

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     Who would you trust more in a big game Mahomes/Jackson OR Purdy?

    Both AFC teams have better QBs with experience.

    If Deebo is limited or sits out, I can't see the 49ers beating either team in the Super Bowl.

    But like another poster said, 49ers are a heavy favorite on Sunday and should make it there. The AFC side is a toss up at least on paper.

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     Who would you trust more in a big game Mahomes/Jackson OR Purdy?

    Both AFC teams have better QBs with experience.

    If Deebo is limited or sits out, I can't see the 49ers beating either team in the Super Bowl.

    But like another poster said, 49ers are a heavy favorite on Sunday and should make it there. The AFC side is a toss up at least on paper.

     
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    What you are missing is an opportunity 

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    They are losing to detroit 

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    Only if Barry Sanders can still play...an_wink

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    As of this moment  AFC to win SB -120 NFC to win SB +100 However - the SB odds by team is as follows 49ERS  +145 RAVENS +180 KC + 380 LIONS + 800 What am I missing here ?

    Speaking strictly as a gambler & not as a fan of any team:

    49'ers blowout the Lions...that's why there's a 14pt line swing from Detroit-7 & ats win to SF-7 & ats loss

    Chiefs beat Ravens s/u...that's why that line is so low...a 6pt drop from -9' to -3' from Balty off a 24pt s/u win & KC off road dog

    then KC becomes the 1st team to win B-B SB's, going Under in Vegas vs SF

    Makes all the sense in the world, speaking strictly as a gambler

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    As of this moment  AFC to win SB -120 NFC to win SB +100 However - the SB odds by team is as follows 49ERS  +145 RAVENS +180 KC + 380 LIONS + 800 What am I missing here ?

    Speaking strictly as a gambler & not as a fan of any team:

    49'ers blowout the Lions...that's why there's a 14pt line swing from Detroit-7 & ats win to SF-7 & ats loss

    Chiefs beat Ravens s/u...that's why that line is so low...a 6pt drop from -9' to -3' from Balty off a 24pt s/u win & KC off road dog

    then KC becomes the 1st team to win B-B SB's, going Under in Vegas vs SF

    Makes all the sense in the world, speaking strictly as a gambler

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 10:09 AM ET #12

    Thinking back in September. I bet the NFC -3 $113-100 { Rivers Casino } for this years Super Bowl. Just a hunch back then it's a NFC team Super Bowl win & cover. 

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    Thinking back in September. I bet the NFC -3 $113-100 { Rivers Casino } for this years Super Bowl. Just a hunch back then it's a NFC team Super Bowl win & cover. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 10:21 AM ET #13

    easy...

    49ERS  +145  - 40.8%

    RAVENS +180 - 35.7%

    KC + 380 - 20.8%

    LIONS + 800 - 11.1%

    NFC is 51.9% to win

    AFC is 56.5% to win

    Obviously don't add up to 100%. That extra 8.4% is the bookies vig but you should get the idea

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    easy...

    49ERS  +145  - 40.8%

    RAVENS +180 - 35.7%

    KC + 380 - 20.8%

    LIONS + 800 - 11.1%

    NFC is 51.9% to win

    AFC is 56.5% to win

    Obviously don't add up to 100%. That extra 8.4% is the bookies vig but you should get the idea

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 12:45 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMan24:

    @G8RB8   Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8: Well......what if the Lions win. Then you're  holding Lions -120 ML exactly. Except it be even money. Niners are favored vs balti and kc. -1.5 vs balti and -3 vs kc

     

    Why are the niners favored in a potential Baltimore SB matchup? Ravens destroyed them this year and all I’ve heard since then is how much better the Ravens are than the niners. That line doesn’t make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMan24:

    @G8RB8   Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8: Well......what if the Lions win. Then you're  holding Lions -120 ML exactly. Except it be even money. Niners are favored vs balti and kc. -1.5 vs balti and -3 vs kc

     

    Why are the niners favored in a potential Baltimore SB matchup? Ravens destroyed them this year and all I’ve heard since then is how much better the Ravens are than the niners. That line doesn’t make any sense.

     
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    There are two reasons.

     

     

    (1) The Ravens and Chiefs will both be almost a TD favorite over the Lions.

    (2) The Chiefs are a longshot because (a) they're on the road, and (b) they're playing the best team remaining.  However, if they were to win, they would be a pick'em against SF, and the Ravens will be slight favorites over the 49ers.

     

    Basically... the 49ers are favored because they are the heaviest favorite in this weekend's games, and therefore the most likely to be playing in the Super Bowl (according to Vegas, anyway)

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    There are two reasons.

     

     

    (1) The Ravens and Chiefs will both be almost a TD favorite over the Lions.

    (2) The Chiefs are a longshot because (a) they're on the road, and (b) they're playing the best team remaining.  However, if they were to win, they would be a pick'em against SF, and the Ravens will be slight favorites over the 49ers.

     

    Basically... the 49ers are favored because they are the heaviest favorite in this weekend's games, and therefore the most likely to be playing in the Super Bowl (according to Vegas, anyway)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 1:36 PM ET #16

    Side note here....

    The Ravens winning the Super bowl would easily be the worst case scenario for the major sports books.  Circa has been up front about this reality for weeks now.  Ravens were anywhere 20-1 to 25-1 last Spring when the Lamar trade talk was being tossed around.  Preseason they were in that 10-1 to 12-1 range if I remember correctly.  

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    Side note here....

    The Ravens winning the Super bowl would easily be the worst case scenario for the major sports books.  Circa has been up front about this reality for weeks now.  Ravens were anywhere 20-1 to 25-1 last Spring when the Lamar trade talk was being tossed around.  Preseason they were in that 10-1 to 12-1 range if I remember correctly.  

     
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     Because the Niners power rating is still higher than the Ravens.....Books will adjust slightly based on this weekends results but we are looking at SF -1 to SF -3 when that line comes out late Sunday evening into Monday, if that matchup ends up taking place of course.  

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     Because the Niners power rating is still higher than the Ravens.....Books will adjust slightly based on this weekends results but we are looking at SF -1 to SF -3 when that line comes out late Sunday evening into Monday, if that matchup ends up taking place of course.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 2:14 PM ET #18

    Actionmag that means there is some value on the NFC side an_wink

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    Actionmag that means there is some value on the NFC side an_wink

     
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    Interesting  peace_5peaceclover

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    https://twitter.com/PatrickE_Vegas/status/1749126726356181228?t=iPP1RxIge5nMmOgSX1gQKg&s=19

     

    I remember Lions being an off-season hype team makes sense to me. Niners will always gets bets because of their popularity 

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    https://twitter.com/PatrickE_Vegas/status/1749126726356181228?t=iPP1RxIge5nMmOgSX1gQKg&s=19

     

    I remember Lions being an off-season hype team makes sense to me. Niners will always gets bets because of their popularity 

     
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     Good stuff DK, thanks for sharing peace_5  

    Kinda surprised Circa would have such a variance from other Vegas shops.... I would guess the variance has to do with their larger limits and their customer base being more professionals and the seasoned recreational bettors.  

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     Good stuff DK, thanks for sharing peace_5  

    Kinda surprised Circa would have such a variance from other Vegas shops.... I would guess the variance has to do with their larger limits and their customer base being more professionals and the seasoned recreational bettors.  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 24, 2024 - 3:57 PM ET #22

    My point is if you love the Ravens to win the SB. This is your chance to hit the +180.

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    My point is if you love the Ravens to win the SB. This is your chance to hit the +180.

     
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     Yup you nailed it. They had the best odds on Ravens futures at the time Jackson was in limbo. Could get Ravens at 35-1 in april while the rest of the books had 20-1 then. No doubt I took it peace_5

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     Yup you nailed it. They had the best odds on Ravens futures at the time Jackson was in limbo. Could get Ravens at 35-1 in april while the rest of the books had 20-1 then. No doubt I took it peace_5

     
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    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and Niners squeak by the Lions, Ravens might be favored over the niners by a little, or they might even open it up a pick em.

    if Chiefs beat the Ravens and Niners squeak by the Lions, the Chiefs will be a short underdog to the Niners, but I would expect under 3 point dogs.

    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and the Niners lose to the Lions then Ravens will be 4.5 point faves and it will move

    If Ravens lose to the Chief and the Niners lose to the Lions then Chiefs are going to be favored by 3 to 3.5 over the Lions

    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and the Niners blow out the Lions, then the Niners are going to be 1 to 1.5 point favorites over the Ravens

    If Ravens lose to the Chiefs and Niners blow out the Lions then the Niners are going to be 2.5 to 3 point favorites over KC

     

    My point is the algorithm is always changing based on most recent power ratings so by after the game the AFC -120 is history and irrelevant because the books have more data and the betting public has more recency bias.

     

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    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and Niners squeak by the Lions, Ravens might be favored over the niners by a little, or they might even open it up a pick em.

    if Chiefs beat the Ravens and Niners squeak by the Lions, the Chiefs will be a short underdog to the Niners, but I would expect under 3 point dogs.

    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and the Niners lose to the Lions then Ravens will be 4.5 point faves and it will move

    If Ravens lose to the Chief and the Niners lose to the Lions then Chiefs are going to be favored by 3 to 3.5 over the Lions

    If Ravens beat the Chiefs and the Niners blow out the Lions, then the Niners are going to be 1 to 1.5 point favorites over the Ravens

    If Ravens lose to the Chiefs and Niners blow out the Lions then the Niners are going to be 2.5 to 3 point favorites over KC

     

    My point is the algorithm is always changing based on most recent power ratings so by after the game the AFC -120 is history and irrelevant because the books have more data and the betting public has more recency bias.

     

     
     
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    Plus they have to factor in all of the future liability they have and create a line based on how much they have for each remaining team. 

     

     

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    Plus they have to factor in all of the future liability they have and create a line based on how much they have for each remaining team. 

     

     

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