Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Final Score:
Seattle Seahawks 19 - Denver Broncos 31
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Thanks bro.
Here's the reasoning.
Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Final Score:
Seattle Seahawks 19 - Denver Broncos 31
Well I definitely do not think the broncos are putting up 30+ points in this one, but GL!
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Quote Originally Posted by FadeThisXen:
Thanks bro.
Here's the reasoning.
Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Final Score:
Seattle Seahawks 19 - Denver Broncos 31
Well I definitely do not think the broncos are putting up 30+ points in this one, but GL!
However, the 49ers 31st ranked passing offense put up 17 points @ Seattle vs the 12th man.
Saints had a chance to win outright, if Colston didn't play dumb...and the Saints have no weapons other than Graham, plus they're terrible on the road.
Neutral field...you best believe Peyton Manning comes into this one to put to rest that cold weather non-sense.
Seattle is a good defense, don't get me wrong. I'm not under estimating them. I think they hold Peyton to around 300-350 yards and 3 TDs.
I think it's the Seahawks offense that coughs up some turnovers that lead to a score and at least some decent field position so the Broncos can run it in. Also add in the fact that the Broncos return/special teams are pretty decent and could come up with some big plays.
Experience is also another factor. Seattle does not have the same amount of post-season experience and Superbowl experience as the Broncos. It's a small factor, but one nonetheless.
You're right, the score could most definitely be tighter.
In fact, if you look at my bets, I'm going moneyline. But I may lay another play on Broncos -3 around the tune of $1k or $2k.
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I can understand your feelings.
However, the 49ers 31st ranked passing offense put up 17 points @ Seattle vs the 12th man.
Saints had a chance to win outright, if Colston didn't play dumb...and the Saints have no weapons other than Graham, plus they're terrible on the road.
Neutral field...you best believe Peyton Manning comes into this one to put to rest that cold weather non-sense.
Seattle is a good defense, don't get me wrong. I'm not under estimating them. I think they hold Peyton to around 300-350 yards and 3 TDs.
I think it's the Seahawks offense that coughs up some turnovers that lead to a score and at least some decent field position so the Broncos can run it in. Also add in the fact that the Broncos return/special teams are pretty decent and could come up with some big plays.
Experience is also another factor. Seattle does not have the same amount of post-season experience and Superbowl experience as the Broncos. It's a small factor, but one nonetheless.
You're right, the score could most definitely be tighter.
In fact, if you look at my bets, I'm going moneyline. But I may lay another play on Broncos -3 around the tune of $1k or $2k.
Turnovers and special teams push this game over, that's my take. Plus if you look at the season and the average totals for a Broncos game, especially home games...you'll see totals of 50+ points consistently. Hell, Denver can put up 50 on alot of teams...but I don't think that happens here against the Seahawks.
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Turnovers and special teams push this game over, that's my take. Plus if you look at the season and the average totals for a Broncos game, especially home games...you'll see totals of 50+ points consistently. Hell, Denver can put up 50 on alot of teams...but I don't think that happens here against the Seahawks.
Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Final Score:
Seattle Seahawks 19 - Denver Broncos 31
Dude, everyone's entitled to an opinion and I hope it works out for you but yeah 30 points?
And Wilson is a complete QB -- sure, he's not a HOF (top 5 minimum all time) QB. But he got the job done against a better D 2 weeks ago. He's been "slumping" a bit, but stil got a 104.5 QBR (I know that doesn't tell the whole story but its a comprehensive stat).
All I am saying is Denver better get some pressure on him because when he gets time, he is the king of broken plays. ANd I personally believe that the pressure is predicated on the effectiveness of the Beast running....
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Quote Originally Posted by FadeThisXen:
Thanks bro.
Here's the reasoning.
Peyton Manning is a master of preparation and is at the top of his game at the moment. From a preparation standpoint, he can not be beat.
Seattle is an outstanding defense, but they're just not as good on the road.
Russell Wilson is not a complete quarterback. There's something missing from his game and I can't put my finger on it. The number one thing he does have, is the ability to extend the play. Against subpar defenses, this is an asset that will mean 1st down conversions. Against a good defense, that means turnovers.
Denver Broncos defense is hitting it's stride late in the season. Last three games, they've limited playoff calibers teams to 17 or less.
Weapons, Denver has weapons on offense everywhere, and a quarterback who makes all the reads to take advantage of those weapons, regardless of coverage and scheme. If there is one team in the NFL who can pick apart the Seahawks, it's the Denver Broncos.
Seattle's biggest advantage is how physical it plays. It's ability to control the pace of the game. Those are both in serious jeopardy against a Denver Bronco's squad that has serious talent in the trenches. The defensive and offensive line for the Broncos is probably top five in the NFL.
Seahawks will start strong, but they'll struggle to stop Peyton Manning from scoring. They're attempts to run the ball will go nowhere and as the margin of difference in the score tilts wildly in the Broncos favor, they'll be forced to move away from playing the game the way the Seahawks want to play this match.
Seahawks try to pass, and they'll make turnovers which will solidify the Broncos lead.
Final Score:
Seattle Seahawks 19 - Denver Broncos 31
Dude, everyone's entitled to an opinion and I hope it works out for you but yeah 30 points?
And Wilson is a complete QB -- sure, he's not a HOF (top 5 minimum all time) QB. But he got the job done against a better D 2 weeks ago. He's been "slumping" a bit, but stil got a 104.5 QBR (I know that doesn't tell the whole story but its a comprehensive stat).
All I am saying is Denver better get some pressure on him because when he gets time, he is the king of broken plays. ANd I personally believe that the pressure is predicated on the effectiveness of the Beast running....
First off, thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate the feedback.
I'm not sure about Denver's need to put him under pressure. My opinion is that Wilson is better under pressure and can turn a broken play where he's forced outside the pocket into some kind of big play. It's better for defenses to try and contain him with the front four and let the linebackers and defensive backs drop into coverage.
The Denver front four on defense is very capable. Pot Roast and Sly Williams, Derek Wolfe, coached by Jack Del Rio. I think if they want to slow or stop Wilson, they need to force him to pass, not scramble.
Wilson is good, but can he make things happen on his own? He's surrounded by number 2 receivers. Percy Harvin may be a number 1 type of receiver, but I just haven't seen it consistently to trust him to make the kind of plays that would carry a team. He certainly wasn't capable of doing so in Minnesota.
In the trenches, the Denver offensive line trumps the Seattle front four. They only way they get pressure on Peyton Manning is by bringing linebackers and safeties on the blitz. Manning can read this a mile away and New York will be quiet enough to allow him to make the reads and audible. This is his little brother's home crowd. This is technically a home field designation for the Broncos. The fans there are going to be 60%-65% Broncos Nation. It's not going to be loud like Seattle's CenturyLink stadium.
Now on to the topic of Beastmode, Marshawn Lynch. Can he be effective? Most definitely. But I think Denver's run defense makes a few key plays and stops. They don't have to stop Lynch completely, they just have to keep him out of the endzone. I think they have the capability to do so. Denver's run defense is better than most teams in the NFL in YPC allowed. If Seattle runs, they're going to eat clock and maybe work field position. Against limited offenses, like the 49ers this works like a charm. Kaepernick isn't going to kill you with his reads and throws. But Peyton Manning is another beast. He will slice and dice you and in the Superbowl, I have a hard time believing they let off the accelerator.
Seattle's defensive backs are their greatest asset. If they play great, they may slow down the Broncos offense, but I just can't see them consistently holding down Knowshon Moreno, Julius Thomas, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Wes Welker simultaneously. It's just too many playmakers and if the Seattle defense plays as physical as they normally do, I think the refs call it on Denver's side.
My forecast is that the Broncos score first, and they never look back.
I'm being generous I feel with that scoring format, as I did not account for special teams and defensive touchdowns.
Seattle's offense is just too anemic to keep pace and it's defense has never contended with such a dynamic offense.
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First off, thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate the feedback.
I'm not sure about Denver's need to put him under pressure. My opinion is that Wilson is better under pressure and can turn a broken play where he's forced outside the pocket into some kind of big play. It's better for defenses to try and contain him with the front four and let the linebackers and defensive backs drop into coverage.
The Denver front four on defense is very capable. Pot Roast and Sly Williams, Derek Wolfe, coached by Jack Del Rio. I think if they want to slow or stop Wilson, they need to force him to pass, not scramble.
Wilson is good, but can he make things happen on his own? He's surrounded by number 2 receivers. Percy Harvin may be a number 1 type of receiver, but I just haven't seen it consistently to trust him to make the kind of plays that would carry a team. He certainly wasn't capable of doing so in Minnesota.
In the trenches, the Denver offensive line trumps the Seattle front four. They only way they get pressure on Peyton Manning is by bringing linebackers and safeties on the blitz. Manning can read this a mile away and New York will be quiet enough to allow him to make the reads and audible. This is his little brother's home crowd. This is technically a home field designation for the Broncos. The fans there are going to be 60%-65% Broncos Nation. It's not going to be loud like Seattle's CenturyLink stadium.
Now on to the topic of Beastmode, Marshawn Lynch. Can he be effective? Most definitely. But I think Denver's run defense makes a few key plays and stops. They don't have to stop Lynch completely, they just have to keep him out of the endzone. I think they have the capability to do so. Denver's run defense is better than most teams in the NFL in YPC allowed. If Seattle runs, they're going to eat clock and maybe work field position. Against limited offenses, like the 49ers this works like a charm. Kaepernick isn't going to kill you with his reads and throws. But Peyton Manning is another beast. He will slice and dice you and in the Superbowl, I have a hard time believing they let off the accelerator.
Seattle's defensive backs are their greatest asset. If they play great, they may slow down the Broncos offense, but I just can't see them consistently holding down Knowshon Moreno, Julius Thomas, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Wes Welker simultaneously. It's just too many playmakers and if the Seattle defense plays as physical as they normally do, I think the refs call it on Denver's side.
My forecast is that the Broncos score first, and they never look back.
To add as a caveat, like I said I did not account for special teams and defensive touchdowns.
That goes both ways. If Seattle wins turnovers, you'll see the margins of victory slide in the Seahawks favor.
Turnovers and defensive touchdowns are the only hope for the Seahawks, imho.
If they get some, the Broncos could be in some serious trouble.
My impression is that the Broncos at this stage, are just too well-oiled of a machine, to make critical mistakes that take them out of the game. Regardless of the defense. It could be the 85 Bears, who I think are better than this Seahawks squad. They wouldn't have a chance against this offense. It starts at the offensive line, top tier. The receiving weapons are good, Demaryius Thomas is close to elite...everyone else is good to above average. The quarterback is probably top 5 all time, we all know how good Peyton Manning is. The running back, Moreno, is coming into his own and is above average to good. It's a home coming for Moreno. I think he has a terrific game.
Regardless. I think Broncos roll the Seahawks hard. My money is on it. I'm just trying to share the love.
Of course I could be wrong. Hell, if the Seahawks get 2 interceptions, I think they can cover. If they get 3+, they could very well win this game. I'm just not feeling that. It feels like a long shot to me.
Just my opinion guys, I welcome the feedback.
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To add as a caveat, like I said I did not account for special teams and defensive touchdowns.
That goes both ways. If Seattle wins turnovers, you'll see the margins of victory slide in the Seahawks favor.
Turnovers and defensive touchdowns are the only hope for the Seahawks, imho.
If they get some, the Broncos could be in some serious trouble.
My impression is that the Broncos at this stage, are just too well-oiled of a machine, to make critical mistakes that take them out of the game. Regardless of the defense. It could be the 85 Bears, who I think are better than this Seahawks squad. They wouldn't have a chance against this offense. It starts at the offensive line, top tier. The receiving weapons are good, Demaryius Thomas is close to elite...everyone else is good to above average. The quarterback is probably top 5 all time, we all know how good Peyton Manning is. The running back, Moreno, is coming into his own and is above average to good. It's a home coming for Moreno. I think he has a terrific game.
Regardless. I think Broncos roll the Seahawks hard. My money is on it. I'm just trying to share the love.
Of course I could be wrong. Hell, if the Seahawks get 2 interceptions, I think they can cover. If they get 3+, they could very well win this game. I'm just not feeling that. It feels like a long shot to me.
My confidence is dropping on the total, because I think Seahawks struggle to score:
To recap all my bets:
Denver Broncos (pick) : $1400 to win $1000 Denver Broncos -7.5 : $1000 to win $2500 Denver Broncos -10.5 : $500 to win $2000 Denver Broncos win by 13-18 points : $500 to win $3500 2 Team : Denver Broncos (pick) / Over 47 : $2100 to win $5037.40 MVP - Duke Ihenacho : $100 to win $15000
I essentially have a fat load on this game, roughly 40% of my bankroll.
Total at risk, $5600 on the Denver Broncos to win this handily (11 points or more, preferably with a margin of victory 13-18 points) and the total score to exceed 47 points.
Also a small bet that Denver defense comes up big, specifically the safety Duke Ihenacho...I'm thinking he's got to have at least a couple of forced fumbles or interceptions, and maybe a touchdown to cement his bid for MVP.
Longshots? What do you guys think? Should I make another bet on Denver Broncos -3 to cover my more extravagant bets at -7.5, -10.5? Thinking maybe 1k...I don't know..stretching my bankroll a bit with 40% commitment already.
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My confidence is dropping on the total, because I think Seahawks struggle to score:
To recap all my bets:
Denver Broncos (pick) : $1400 to win $1000 Denver Broncos -7.5 : $1000 to win $2500 Denver Broncos -10.5 : $500 to win $2000 Denver Broncos win by 13-18 points : $500 to win $3500 2 Team : Denver Broncos (pick) / Over 47 : $2100 to win $5037.40 MVP - Duke Ihenacho : $100 to win $15000
I essentially have a fat load on this game, roughly 40% of my bankroll.
Total at risk, $5600 on the Denver Broncos to win this handily (11 points or more, preferably with a margin of victory 13-18 points) and the total score to exceed 47 points.
Also a small bet that Denver defense comes up big, specifically the safety Duke Ihenacho...I'm thinking he's got to have at least a couple of forced fumbles or interceptions, and maybe a touchdown to cement his bid for MVP.
Longshots? What do you guys think? Should I make another bet on Denver Broncos -3 to cover my more extravagant bets at -7.5, -10.5? Thinking maybe 1k...I don't know..stretching my bankroll a bit with 40% commitment already.
I don't have a dog in Over/under fight, so i hope u hit ur parlay
The line available for me is -2.. where are u getting -3 ? or is that + or even money ?
FYI i have 10% of my original Broncos-1 wager amount on Broncos -9.5 at +363 i wanted to keep it under 10pts since i thought the final score might be 27-17
Good Luck !
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Win big or go home, huh?
I don't have a dog in Over/under fight, so i hope u hit ur parlay
The line available for me is -2.. where are u getting -3 ? or is that + or even money ?
FYI i have 10% of my original Broncos-1 wager amount on Broncos -9.5 at +363 i wanted to keep it under 10pts since i thought the final score might be 27-17
My online book is -3 (even), so it's dollar for dollar.
The more I think about it, I'm good. I'd prefer to root for 11+ points and hitting that, than middling on something between 3-11 point margin of victory.
If anything I might hedge the total, but I'm already getting juiced to hell.
I may just ride with it, TIME TO RIDE!
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My online book is -3 (even), so it's dollar for dollar.
The more I think about it, I'm good. I'd prefer to root for 11+ points and hitting that, than middling on something between 3-11 point margin of victory.
If anything I might hedge the total, but I'm already getting juiced to hell.
No offense but you sound like a delusional Broncos homer right now....
Hard for me to take this thread seriously.... Peyton has a bigger change of throwing a pick 6 then Denver has unloading 30+ on Seatle. Only way they go off for 30 is if Seatle goes off around 30 and they get into a shoot out.
Broncos have no clue with what kind speed and power these maniacs are gonna flying around there with. San Fran is VERY familiar with Seatle and so is New Orleans. Each team played them twice. Big difference compared a Broncos team that has never seen seatle.
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No offense but you sound like a delusional Broncos homer right now....
Hard for me to take this thread seriously.... Peyton has a bigger change of throwing a pick 6 then Denver has unloading 30+ on Seatle. Only way they go off for 30 is if Seatle goes off around 30 and they get into a shoot out.
Broncos have no clue with what kind speed and power these maniacs are gonna flying around there with. San Fran is VERY familiar with Seatle and so is New Orleans. Each team played them twice. Big difference compared a Broncos team that has never seen seatle.
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