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    The BIGGEST write-up on the web for this game and EVERYTHING you need to know about BILLS@JETS!!!

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    rogercw
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 10:34 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    8. The Cover - The bookies are unable to adjust the line for more extreme situations such as these.

    The books simply can't lay more than 3 to the Bills here even though they know they should. They can't break a certain rule they have for away/home line comparison.im jet fan.i NEVER PLAY THEM.2 DAY I WILL...big article 4 easy call..gl

    The traditional line shift from home to away is 6/6.5/7 (more with stronger home fields).

    If the Jets were at the Bills, a line shift of 6.5 would be -3.5 Bills in Buffalo.

    This makes sense to them given the 4-3 above .500 Bills would lay .5 point more than what the Jets are laying here to the 1-6 below .500 visiting Jets who would be just as desperate but still must win in a tough venue.

    I say that rule is crap and is to our advantage. 

    There is NO RUNNING game on the Bills. There is a backup who contemplated retiring not just a few months ago. There is a Jets team with a coach and QB on life support who will knock over their own grandmother to get the ball in the end zone today. 

    But the books simply can't give out a proper line of 6-6.5 and even 7. Now that would be a tougher and more ballsy line.

    Before you say the line is 'right where it should be', consider the Skins/Titans line last week which, with all the Kirk Cousins hysteria, got to 7 for the Skins at home. Skins were 1-5 playing the 2-4 Titans.

    Does anyone here really believe this ravaged Bills team, also playing their backup QB, with no RB's in this spot, coming off a emotional high from last week's win, against a much more dependable Jets team that has hung tough with the Broncos and Patriots and jumped out to a 21-3 lead at Lambeau this year, is worth 4 points LESS than what the lousy Skins gave the Titans?

    No way in hell!

    Yes, the Skins only won by 2 but there are too many problems to list on this page as to why that is, starting with a massive overvaluing of Kirk Cousins by the public. Still the books made them lay 7 as a public team.

    That is why 3 is a bargain.

    And please, to the posters who will play the Bills, don't let your ONE counterargument be: The Bills run defense is great and the Jets will have trouble moving the ball on the ground.

    Wrong. The trio of RB's the Jets have will still be able to counter that. Maybe not with 200+ yards like last week, but enough to get over this number. Geno will be going all out today too.

    9. One big con to betting the Jets

    They simply do not force turnovers and that is a problem.

    They have an atrocious 1 INT ALL YEAR!!! And only 2 forced fumble recoveries.

    This is because of the backups and rookies in their secondary putting a lot more pressure on the front 7.

    If the Jets limit their turnovers, they'll be fine. But lose the ball and they'll have to make up those points with 80 yard drives. The encouraging stat? Zero TO's against the Pats last week.

    I wouldn't worry as much this week about this given Rex called out his underperforming secondary, to at a minimum, be more aggressive and get the ball in the hands of green jerseys.

    So we have argued sufficiently with ample evidence for a WIN and a COVER. What more do you want?

    The line is fishy? I just can't do it! 70% of the public is on the Jets! Covers bloodbath coming! All of that is meaningless and is your own anxiety pushing you to play with much less info and far worse spots. All of the same was said about the Broncos just a few days ago against the Chargers. All of it will be said every single NFL week from now until the end of time on this board.

    4 stars

    The pick:

    Jets -3 OVER Bills

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    8. The Cover - The bookies are unable to adjust the line for more extreme situations such as these.

    The books simply can't lay more than 3 to the Bills here even though they know they should. They can't break a certain rule they have for away/home line comparison.im jet fan.i NEVER PLAY THEM.2 DAY I WILL...big article 4 easy call..gl

    The traditional line shift from home to away is 6/6.5/7 (more with stronger home fields).

    If the Jets were at the Bills, a line shift of 6.5 would be -3.5 Bills in Buffalo.

    This makes sense to them given the 4-3 above .500 Bills would lay .5 point more than what the Jets are laying here to the 1-6 below .500 visiting Jets who would be just as desperate but still must win in a tough venue.

    I say that rule is crap and is to our advantage. 

    There is NO RUNNING game on the Bills. There is a backup who contemplated retiring not just a few months ago. There is a Jets team with a coach and QB on life support who will knock over their own grandmother to get the ball in the end zone today. 

    But the books simply can't give out a proper line of 6-6.5 and even 7. Now that would be a tougher and more ballsy line.

    Before you say the line is 'right where it should be', consider the Skins/Titans line last week which, with all the Kirk Cousins hysteria, got to 7 for the Skins at home. Skins were 1-5 playing the 2-4 Titans.

    Does anyone here really believe this ravaged Bills team, also playing their backup QB, with no RB's in this spot, coming off a emotional high from last week's win, against a much more dependable Jets team that has hung tough with the Broncos and Patriots and jumped out to a 21-3 lead at Lambeau this year, is worth 4 points LESS than what the lousy Skins gave the Titans?

    No way in hell!

    Yes, the Skins only won by 2 but there are too many problems to list on this page as to why that is, starting with a massive overvaluing of Kirk Cousins by the public. Still the books made them lay 7 as a public team.

    That is why 3 is a bargain.

    And please, to the posters who will play the Bills, don't let your ONE counterargument be: The Bills run defense is great and the Jets will have trouble moving the ball on the ground.

    Wrong. The trio of RB's the Jets have will still be able to counter that. Maybe not with 200+ yards like last week, but enough to get over this number. Geno will be going all out today too.

    9. One big con to betting the Jets

    They simply do not force turnovers and that is a problem.

    They have an atrocious 1 INT ALL YEAR!!! And only 2 forced fumble recoveries.

    This is because of the backups and rookies in their secondary putting a lot more pressure on the front 7.

    If the Jets limit their turnovers, they'll be fine. But lose the ball and they'll have to make up those points with 80 yard drives. The encouraging stat? Zero TO's against the Pats last week.

    I wouldn't worry as much this week about this given Rex called out his underperforming secondary, to at a minimum, be more aggressive and get the ball in the hands of green jerseys.

    So we have argued sufficiently with ample evidence for a WIN and a COVER. What more do you want?

    The line is fishy? I just can't do it! 70% of the public is on the Jets! Covers bloodbath coming! All of that is meaningless and is your own anxiety pushing you to play with much less info and far worse spots. All of the same was said about the Broncos just a few days ago against the Chargers. All of it will be said every single NFL week from now until the end of time on this board.

    4 stars

    The pick:

    Jets -3 OVER Bills

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 10:52 AM ET #52

    My biggest play today is on the Jets. 
    Thanks for the write-up! 
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    My biggest play today is on the Jets. 
    Thanks for the write-up! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 10:53 AM ET #53

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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:02 AM ET #54

    Hate to say it but I agree.
    This is my pick of the week too, that may spell  trouble.
    GL
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    Hate to say it but I agree.
    This is my pick of the week too, that may spell  trouble.
    GL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:03 AM ET #55

    Scal -- this is a fantastic write-up, I agree with you that the Jets are the play and I will be backing Geno today (gulp)
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    Scal -- this is a fantastic write-up, I agree with you that the Jets are the play and I will be backing Geno today (gulp)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:05 AM ET #56

    A lot of people dissing Bryce brown he's an explosive rb he just has troubles holding on to football
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:05 AM ET #57

    A lot of people dissing Bryce brown he's an explosive rb he just has troubles holding on to football
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    A lot of people dissing Bryce brown he's an explosive rb he just has troubles holding on to football
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:06 AM ET #59

    to tha Muking Bank
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:31 AM ET #60

    Excellent analysis...

    Took me off my Bills lean....

    Cheers
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    Excellent analysis...

    Took me off my Bills lean....

    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:41 AM ET #61

    Orton passed for 300...10 / 05 vs. Det








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    Orton passed for 300...10 / 05 vs. Det








     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:44 AM ET #62

    You go Scal........adding to my Jets pick......BOL....
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    You go Scal........adding to my Jets pick......BOL....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:51 AM ET #63

    awesome write up bro. 
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    awesome write up bro. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 11:57 AM ET #64

    Appreciate the analysis and your insights.  I just rolled with Jets ML at -135. I hit it hard enough to leave red marks 
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    Appreciate the analysis and your insights.  I just rolled with Jets ML at -135. I hit it hard enough to leave red marks 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 12:02 PM ET #65

    Scalabrine... You have amazing write-ups.. They don't always win BUT when I saw you had a write up on this game I was hoping you would be on the JETS.... I stopped reading because I already know your write-ups are solid... Let's just hope the players play as they are supposed to because you can't handicap stupidity... Thanks again..
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    Scalabrine... You have amazing write-ups.. They don't always win BUT when I saw you had a write up on this game I was hoping you would be on the JETS.... I stopped reading because I already know your write-ups are solid... Let's just hope the players play as they are supposed to because you can't handicap stupidity... Thanks again..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 12:15 PM ET #66

    On Bills +3.  GL, Scal.  
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 12:15 PM ET #67

    Jets are the right side. Congrats.
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 12:21 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by curitiba:

    Did you notice that Bills played Stafford, Brady, Cutler and Rivers as well?

    Bills +3 is the pick.


    BOL with whatever you guys pick.


    meatcuts is the worst in the league
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    Quote Originally Posted by curitiba:

    Did you notice that Bills played Stafford, Brady, Cutler and Rivers as well?

    Bills +3 is the pick.


    BOL with whatever you guys pick.


    meatcuts is the worst in the league
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 1:20 PM ET #69

    To all the above including the guys I know:

    Alright, the Jets look VERY FLAT.

    I am a bit shocked they have come out like this in this spot at home.

    A pass interference play set up the whole scoring drive for the Bills so I'm not so worried about the early score, but the Jets BETTER get their act together ASAP!

     

    Let's just sit tight and get some stops and put up some points.

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    To all the above including the guys I know:

    Alright, the Jets look VERY FLAT.

    I am a bit shocked they have come out like this in this spot at home.

    A pass interference play set up the whole scoring drive for the Bills so I'm not so worried about the early score, but the Jets BETTER get their act together ASAP!

     

    Let's just sit tight and get some stops and put up some points.

     
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    here we go again, rutgers michigan all over. 
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    here we go again, rutgers michigan all over. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 1:31 PM ET #71

    Yet another Geno interception and this is EXACTLY what the just shouldn't be doing: turning it over when they can't force any turnovers and putting pressure on the D and more importantly the front 7.

    Luckily the jets have held serve on b2b interceptions so the D has come to play.

    But by god, Geno needs to get his act together. One more turnover and you have to pull him.

    Still very early and no need to panic.
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    Yet another Geno interception and this is EXACTLY what the just shouldn't be doing: turning it over when they can't force any turnovers and putting pressure on the D and more importantly the front 7.

    Luckily the jets have held serve on b2b interceptions so the D has come to play.

    But by god, Geno needs to get his act together. One more turnover and you have to pull him.

    Still very early and no need to panic.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 1:33 PM ET #72

    As a life long Jets fan and someone who again bet this team, I would be happy if we just punted on 1st down and hoped D or special teams could get a score.
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    As a life long Jets fan and someone who again bet this team, I would be happy if we just punted on 1st down and hoped D or special teams could get a score.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2014 - 1:35 PM ET #73

    The Geno smith era is about to come to an end.
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    The Geno smith era is about to come to an end.
     
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    2 ints werent enough for rex to pull him , i swear to god if he doesnt get pulled off 3 .. this is probably the worst start possible for jets.
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    2 ints werent enough for rex to pull him , i swear to god if he doesnt get pulled off 3 .. this is probably the worst start possible for jets.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The Geno smith era is about to come to an end.


    It's going to be time soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    The Geno smith era is about to come to an end.


    It's going to be time soon.
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