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    andarmac99
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 5:02 PM ET #1

    Indianapolis -3

    Everyone thinks the Pats are back and we are headed for Brady-Manning # whatever for the AFC Championship? Not so fast. The Colts are going to crash that party. They are better than New England, but America doesn't know it yet. This is a classic statement game where everyone gets to find out. The Colts are physical this year and it's turned them into contenders much more so than Luck throwing for millions of points. They have a sack now and can hold their own against NE who bullied them in last year's playoff game. The tide has turned and the better team should get it done.


    Seattle +1

    I've watched KC the last two weeks and they are not good. I'm sorry, but you can't be dogs to the Bills and then favs against Seattle, I don't care where the games are played. KC's pass rush masks a lot of problems. Wilson should mitigate that with his legs though. Seattle leads the NFL in rush YPC and rush TDs. KC is a run team too, only they aren't as good. The difference is though the Seahawks have the best run D in the league while the Chiefs are #30. No reason Seattle shouldn't run wild here. Better team getting 4 more points than they should be.


    Houston +3.5

    Not a believer in the Browns. They've been out gained on the year and their run game has been woefully inefficient since their Pro Bowl center went down. Watt should have a game here. Texans off a bye and this is basically a playoff game for them. Too much being made of the switch to Mallett. He's been in the league for four years and in this system for over half that time with O'Brien. He should be ready, and if you've watched Ryan Fitzpatrick you know Mallett is a huge upgrade. Clowney and Cushing back for Houston too. Give me the points.


    Minnesota +3

    I'd normally look to buy low and bet a team off some blowout losses. But there is more selling to be done. The Bears are putrid, have a ton of turmoil, and should throw in the towel here. I love betting against teams that were contenders coming into the season and now have nothing to play for. They usually lay down like dogs. Minny is young, hungry, improving, rested, and will be a play-on the rest of the year. Chicago is old, unmotivated, and playing out the string of a 10+ loss season.

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    Indianapolis -3

    Everyone thinks the Pats are back and we are headed for Brady-Manning # whatever for the AFC Championship? Not so fast. The Colts are going to crash that party. They are better than New England, but America doesn't know it yet. This is a classic statement game where everyone gets to find out. The Colts are physical this year and it's turned them into contenders much more so than Luck throwing for millions of points. They have a sack now and can hold their own against NE who bullied them in last year's playoff game. The tide has turned and the better team should get it done.


    Seattle +1

    I've watched KC the last two weeks and they are not good. I'm sorry, but you can't be dogs to the Bills and then favs against Seattle, I don't care where the games are played. KC's pass rush masks a lot of problems. Wilson should mitigate that with his legs though. Seattle leads the NFL in rush YPC and rush TDs. KC is a run team too, only they aren't as good. The difference is though the Seahawks have the best run D in the league while the Chiefs are #30. No reason Seattle shouldn't run wild here. Better team getting 4 more points than they should be.


    Houston +3.5

    Not a believer in the Browns. They've been out gained on the year and their run game has been woefully inefficient since their Pro Bowl center went down. Watt should have a game here. Texans off a bye and this is basically a playoff game for them. Too much being made of the switch to Mallett. He's been in the league for four years and in this system for over half that time with O'Brien. He should be ready, and if you've watched Ryan Fitzpatrick you know Mallett is a huge upgrade. Clowney and Cushing back for Houston too. Give me the points.


    Minnesota +3

    I'd normally look to buy low and bet a team off some blowout losses. But there is more selling to be done. The Bears are putrid, have a ton of turmoil, and should throw in the towel here. I love betting against teams that were contenders coming into the season and now have nothing to play for. They usually lay down like dogs. Minny is young, hungry, improving, rested, and will be a play-on the rest of the year. Chicago is old, unmotivated, and playing out the string of a 10+ loss season.

    GL.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 5:28 PM ET #2

    Good stuff.  BOL this week, andy.       
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 7:21 PM ET #3

    Love the plays. Miss the write ups from you. 
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 7:22 PM ET #4

    GL 
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 7:30 PM ET #5

    Andy! Good to see u, bro. I'm on Seattle with you. GL
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 8:25 PM ET #7

    Like em all except the Colts. 

    Great to see you back posting. 
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    Like em all except the Colts. 

    Great to see you back posting. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 9:13 PM ET #8

    Actually I'm on all of them. Great minds think alike :-P
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 9:33 PM ET #9

    With you on the "Sea Chickens" Brother, I agree KC stumbles if Charles can't get yardage. Smith's receiving corps leaves a lot to be desired. I'm a little concerned about Lynch and his ribs and foot, but other than that this is Seattles game to win or lose.

    On the other side with the Pats, Indy is horrible ATS against Brady and the boys. My biggest play of the day is a 2 team 6pt. teaser $1100.00 / $1000.00  Seattle +7 / Patriots +9

    GL Mi Amigo!

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    With you on the "Sea Chickens" Brother, I agree KC stumbles if Charles can't get yardage. Smith's receiving corps leaves a lot to be desired. I'm a little concerned about Lynch and his ribs and foot, but other than that this is Seattles game to win or lose.

    On the other side with the Pats, Indy is horrible ATS against Brady and the boys. My biggest play of the day is a 2 team 6pt. teaser $1100.00 / $1000.00  Seattle +7 / Patriots +9

    GL Mi Amigo!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 10:41 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

     I'm sorry, but you can't be dogs to the Bills and then favs against Seattle, I don't care where the games are played. 

    Excellent point. My initial lean on this game was KC but I'm slowly coming around to SEA. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

     I'm sorry, but you can't be dogs to the Bills and then favs against Seattle, I don't care where the games are played. 

    Excellent point. My initial lean on this game was KC but I'm slowly coming around to SEA. 
    GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 11:06 PM ET #11

    KC is in fact #20 against the rush giving up 115 yards per game and are ranked number 6 in total defense and are ranked 2nd in points allowed with 16.8 points per game? For me points allowed is the most important defensive stat of them all.
    How about the loss of Seattle's nose tackle Mebane last week...won't that loss impact Seattle's ability to stop the run?
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    KC is in fact #20 against the rush giving up 115 yards per game and are ranked number 6 in total defense and are ranked 2nd in points allowed with 16.8 points per game? For me points allowed is the most important defensive stat of them all.
    How about the loss of Seattle's nose tackle Mebane last week...won't that loss impact Seattle's ability to stop the run?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 11:13 PM ET #12

    Seattle is ranked 4th against the rush behind Denver, Detroit, and Arizona and they give up over 21 points per game which is 4 more points per game on average than KC.
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    Seattle is ranked 4th against the rush behind Denver, Detroit, and Arizona and they give up over 21 points per game which is 4 more points per game on average than KC.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 11:21 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    KC is in fact #20 against the rush giving up 115 yards per game and are ranked number 6 in total defense and are ranked 2nd in points allowed with 16.8 points per game? For me points allowed is the most important defensive stat of them all.
    How about the loss of Seattle's nose tackle Mebane last week...won't that loss impact Seattle's ability to stop the run?

    KC is #30 in YPC allowed. I don't look at total yards. Meaningless. DVOA is kinder to KC but it is still #3 vs #21 in rush D. KC has a bad rush defense by any measure. Turbin and Micheal actually have better YPC numbers than Lynch and SEA is very high on them.

    KC #16 in defensive DVOA. They just don't pass the eye test either. I've watched them play extensively the last two weeks and they are very underwhelming. Their great ATS record won't last and they'll come crashing back. 
    Mebane a very tough loss though, I agree. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:

    KC is in fact #20 against the rush giving up 115 yards per game and are ranked number 6 in total defense and are ranked 2nd in points allowed with 16.8 points per game? For me points allowed is the most important defensive stat of them all.
    How about the loss of Seattle's nose tackle Mebane last week...won't that loss impact Seattle's ability to stop the run?

    KC is #30 in YPC allowed. I don't look at total yards. Meaningless. DVOA is kinder to KC but it is still #3 vs #21 in rush D. KC has a bad rush defense by any measure. Turbin and Micheal actually have better YPC numbers than Lynch and SEA is very high on them.

    KC #16 in defensive DVOA. They just don't pass the eye test either. I've watched them play extensively the last two weeks and they are very underwhelming. Their great ATS record won't last and they'll come crashing back. 
    Mebane a very tough loss though, I agree. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2014 - 11:44 PM ET #14

    Andarmac99

    Like your picks except Indy , while Indy is a very good team at home, the biggest games are where Brady and the pats excel, so being dogs that they are, pats is a better choice for the gambler risk/reward scenario, for example if this game goes down to the wire and is won by a field goal, pats backers walk away with a draw or win, my money is on Brady and the pats! 

    Bol!
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    Andarmac99

    Like your picks except Indy , while Indy is a very good team at home, the biggest games are where Brady and the pats excel, so being dogs that they are, pats is a better choice for the gambler risk/reward scenario, for example if this game goes down to the wire and is won by a field goal, pats backers walk away with a draw or win, my money is on Brady and the pats! 

    Bol!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 12:07 AM ET #15

    Being dogs againts the Bills and then fav againts Seattle can be an indication that KC actually is going to win this game.....Seattle barely beat Carolina, a very bad team.....Chiefs are ten times better than Panthers.....KC is the play bud....Good luck
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    Being dogs againts the Bills and then fav againts Seattle can be an indication that KC actually is going to win this game.....Seattle barely beat Carolina, a very bad team.....Chiefs are ten times better than Panthers.....KC is the play bud....Good luck
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 1:18 AM ET #16

    Great card 
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 1:24 AM ET #17

    Leaning Indy with ya.
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 1:31 AM ET #18

    Good to see you back and GL Andy 
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #19

    Seahawks ave 5.5 per rush and give-up 3.2 that's a huge 2.3 difference, certainly would be one of the best all-time.

    KC ave 4.6 while giving-up 4.7, being out-gained by .1.

    Seahawks out-gain opps by 91 rushing yards per game, KC by 20 rushing yds per game. 

    Don't try comparing the Chiefs  rushing off and def to Seahawks, there's no comparison what so ever.

    If you want to make a case for KC, you could look at Seahawks coming off an extreme outlier rushing performance last week and call for a regression but that's about the only thing that would remotely compare Seahawks and Chiefs in running games. 


    Interesting thing on Browns is they ave 7.4 per pass while giving-up 5.8, that's a 1.6 diff, one of the best in the league.

    And their defense is no.1 in yards per point.

    They have played quite well recently and may be due a regression but maybe not just yet.

    I do have a best bet fade on Pats with a regression method this week, Pats coming off back-to-back games playing on the field no where-near what the final score suggested, this is not maintainable.


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    Seahawks ave 5.5 per rush and give-up 3.2 that's a huge 2.3 difference, certainly would be one of the best all-time.

    KC ave 4.6 while giving-up 4.7, being out-gained by .1.

    Seahawks out-gain opps by 91 rushing yards per game, KC by 20 rushing yds per game. 

    Don't try comparing the Chiefs  rushing off and def to Seahawks, there's no comparison what so ever.

    If you want to make a case for KC, you could look at Seahawks coming off an extreme outlier rushing performance last week and call for a regression but that's about the only thing that would remotely compare Seahawks and Chiefs in running games. 


    Interesting thing on Browns is they ave 7.4 per pass while giving-up 5.8, that's a 1.6 diff, one of the best in the league.

    And their defense is no.1 in yards per point.

    They have played quite well recently and may be due a regression but maybe not just yet.

    I do have a best bet fade on Pats with a regression method this week, Pats coming off back-to-back games playing on the field no where-near what the final score suggested, this is not maintainable.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 10:39 AM ET #21

    ^you also had cincy and new orleans meeting in the sb
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 11:09 AM ET #22

    The best way to analyze games. First, understand what both sides of the ball want to accomplish. WATCH THE GAMES. Lastly, go through The stats that mean outcomes: Turnovers differential, third down conversions (offense and defense), explosive play potential, and PPG (offense and defensive). 


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    I like all these plays at first glance. Glad to see you posting again andy, BOL today! 
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2014 - 11:28 AM ET #24

    I ask anyone fading the Bears-you aren't facing Brady and Rodgers this week, it's Teddy f'in Bridgewater..humiliation at home...I think they say so there and get away with it just this one week...
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    I ask anyone fading the Bears-you aren't facing Brady and Rodgers this week, it's Teddy f'in Bridgewater..humiliation at home...I think they say so there and get away with it just this one week...
     
     
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    GL andy !
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