Posted:
#76
its always 60 minutes of football, not 32 or 45, thats how you finish games. you ptactice for 60 and plan for 60.. thats just the way it is
This is why I despise the Patriots.
Posted:
#80
Yes, I know you SHOULD stop em but if those who say this would answer one question: was it NECESSARY to be throwing the ball that far ahead? The answer is "NO;" just keep it on the ground, chew up the clock and be done with it. If you're just running the ball between the tackles and they still can't stop you, that's their tough luck. But throwing the ball four touchdowns ahead is just overkill. What's the point? Was BB worried about a possible comeback?
Posted:
#81
Quote Originally Posted by mirage77:
Yes, I know you SHOULD stop em but if those who say this would answer one question: was it NECESSARY to be throwing the ball that far ahead? The answer is "NO;" just keep it on the ground, chew up the clock and be done with it. If you're just running the ball between the tackles and they still can't stop you, that's their tough luck. But throwing the ball four touchdowns ahead is just overkill. What's the point? Was BB worried about a possible comeback?
BB is just a smug scumbag with a huge ego.
Posted:
#82
Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:
That's not the perspective here. I know Bellichek is a genius so who am I to second guess him, but I'm talking if I'm the NE coach and I'm up 36-7 in the 4th quarter I'm putting in my backup to hand it off every play until the game is over. Period end of story. But that's just me.
That's not the perspective here. I know Bellichek is a genius so who am I to second guess him, but I'm talking if I'm the NE coach and I'm up 36-7 in the 4th quarter I'm putting in my backup to hand it off every play until the game is over. Period end of story. But that's just me.
I totaly understand your point ,but shoudn't the Bears put in their backups too? I don't think Cutlers backup ever saw the field today.
Posted:
#84
Quote Originally Posted by DanTos8715:
Right. So the Jets guy is a hater because he thinks the Patriots shouldn't throw bombs in the endzone up 29 in the 4th. Everyone else agrees that they should pour it on regardless, and most of them are Patriots fans or Jets haters. You have a bet on how many points they score in a season. Anyone else besides me just have an opinion on the matter even though it doesn't benefit them? Just curious.
I like the Pats about as much as i like the Jets. Which is not much..
With that said I also tend to shy away from teams that can't find the end zone. the Pats have been money.
Posted:
#89
Quote Originally Posted by Crowkillers:
And why would that be..?
why was your comparison ridiculous? let me count the ways...
1) football has minutes, baseball does not... it is not possible to "run out the clock" in a baseball game... there is no advantage to getting out of an inning when you are at bat in baseball... no matter how quickly you end your half of the inning, the other team will still get 3 outs in the bottom half of their inning... furthermore, a clock creates a scenario whereby a team "runs out of time" before the clock actually expires... e.g., if you are down 45-0 with 4:00 to go... it's over... it is simply impossible to score 45 points in 4 minutes of a football game... AND, it is particularly impossible if the opposing team is milking the clock by running the ball on their possessions... however, no matter what the score is in baseball, there is nothing to limit the number of runs a team can score in one inning...
2) your example had nothing to do with what we are talking about here... the example of intentionally striking out in the top half of the 9th would be comparable to a team taking a knee with 8:00 to go in the 4th quarter... nobody here was claiming the Pats should be doing that... a correct comparison would have been a baseball team with a 20-1 lead, using pinch-hitters in the top of the 9th, and stealing bases, and keeping their starting pitcher in the game in the bottom of the 9th (even that is a stretch)...
3) attempting to run up the score is different than trying to help the other team have a chance...
bottom line: there is no advantage for a baseball team to try to "get out" quickly when they have a big lead... a football team with a big lead, does gain an advantage by milking the clock... furthermore, they can avoid potential injuries to their star players...
it is ignorant that people argue these points, because they know it is true... they are simply trying to justify their support of the team, or player's stats, or coaching decisions, despite the fact it is well known that proper protocol dictates that you do not continue to lob 40 yard passes when you are winning 38-7 late in the game... either that, or they are just arguing for the sake of argument... which is a sign of someone who lacks integrity...
Posted:
#90
[Quote: Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater]
you think wrong! i post all of my NFL plays every week...
https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100913222
the correct answer was: i see shit clearly... pay attention!
The Patriots win big alot get over it.Get pissed at the team that loses big not the that wins big.Pay attention!
Posted:
#91
Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:
agree with mba... moosehunter, you are missing the point...
people talk about Brady as one of the greatest of all time... but it's bullshit, because no other QB in that discussion, ever got the benefit of playing for a scumbag coach who would pad stats to the most extreme limit possible...
Marino, Montana, Manning, Elway... none of those guys ever got to pad their stats the way Brady does... and when his career is over, he will have the single most misleading stat-line of any player at any position who ever played this game... and that is undeniable!
agree with mba... moosehunter, you are missing the point...
people talk about Brady as one of the greatest of all time... but it's bullshit, because no other QB in that discussion, ever got the benefit of playing for a scumbag coach who would pad stats to the most extreme limit possible...
Marino, Montana, Manning, Elway... none of those guys ever got to pad their stats the way Brady does... and when his career is over, he will have the single most misleading stat-line of any player at any position who ever played this game... and that is undeniable!
The Pats scored 10 pts in the second half and ran the ball. Show me these stats from games when he should have been taken out and put up major yardage and TD's. You won't be able to because it never happened. Also show me when Manning, Brees, Rivers etc.. have been pulled in blowouts early in the second half if at all.
Stop being bitter for decades the Pats were on the other side of lop sided beatings and no one complained. When NO and Baltimore crushed the Pats last year no players were pulled. In fact it's a bigger slap in the face to the opponent to put in your backup than leave in your starter,
Posted:
#93
Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:
why was your comparison ridiculous? let me count the ways...
1) football has minutes, baseball does not... it is not possible to "run out the clock" in a baseball game... there is no advantage to getting out of an inning when you are at bat in baseball... no matter how quickly you end your half of the inning, the other team will still get 3 outs in the bottom half of their inning... furthermore, a clock creates a scenario whereby a team "runs out of time" before the clock actually expires... e.g., if you are down 45-0 with 4:00 to go... it's over... it is simply impossible to score 45 points in 4 minutes of a football game... AND, it is particularly impossible if the opposing team is milking the clock by running the ball on their possessions... however, no matter what the score is in baseball, there is nothing to limit the number of runs a team can score in one inning...
2) your example had nothing to do with what we are talking about here... the example of intentionally striking out in the top half of the 9th would be comparable to a team taking a knee with 8:00 to go in the 4th quarter... nobody here was claiming the Pats should be doing that... a correct comparison would have been a baseball team with a 20-1 lead, using pinch-hitters in the top of the 9th, and stealing bases, and keeping their starting pitcher in the game in the bottom of the 9th (even that is a stretch)...
3) attempting to run up the score is different than trying to help the other team have a chance...
bottom line: there is no advantage for a baseball team to try to "get out" quickly when they have a big lead... a football team with a big lead, does gain an advantage by milking the clock... furthermore, they can avoid potential injuries to their star players...
it is ignorant that people argue these points, because they know it is true... they are simply trying to justify their support of the team, or player's stats, or coaching decisions, despite the fact it is well known that proper protocol dictates that you do not continue to lob 40 yard passes when you are winning 38-7 late in the game... either that, or they are just arguing for the sake of argument... which is a sign of someone who lacks integrity...
why was your comparison ridiculous? let me count the ways...
1) football has minutes, baseball does not... it is not possible to "run out the clock" in a baseball game... there is no advantage to getting out of an inning when you are at bat in baseball... no matter how quickly you end your half of the inning, the other team will still get 3 outs in the bottom half of their inning... furthermore, a clock creates a scenario whereby a team "runs out of time" before the clock actually expires... e.g., if you are down 45-0 with 4:00 to go... it's over... it is simply impossible to score 45 points in 4 minutes of a football game... AND, it is particularly impossible if the opposing team is milking the clock by running the ball on their possessions... however, no matter what the score is in baseball, there is nothing to limit the number of runs a team can score in one inning...
2) your example had nothing to do with what we are talking about here... the example of intentionally striking out in the top half of the 9th would be comparable to a team taking a knee with 8:00 to go in the 4th quarter... nobody here was claiming the Pats should be doing that... a correct comparison would have been a baseball team with a 20-1 lead, using pinch-hitters in the top of the 9th, and stealing bases, and keeping their starting pitcher in the game in the bottom of the 9th (even that is a stretch)...
3) attempting to run up the score is different than trying to help the other team have a chance...
bottom line: there is no advantage for a baseball team to try to "get out" quickly when they have a big lead... a football team with a big lead, does gain an advantage by milking the clock... furthermore, they can avoid potential injuries to their star players...
it is ignorant that people argue these points, because they know it is true... they are simply trying to justify their support of the team, or player's stats, or coaching decisions, despite the fact it is well known that proper protocol dictates that you do not continue to lob 40 yard passes when you are winning 38-7 late in the game... either that, or they are just arguing for the sake of argument... which is a sign of someone who lacks integrity...
Regardless of all of your comparisons, you still have to play the game. Some coaches coach to "win" and others coach to "win with attitude"
I completely agree that it's stupid to leave your studs in there when the game is out of hand and the other team may put Bad Hits on these stud players because they are frustrated that they are getting blown out.
My whole deal with this thread is this...
People are talking like this is the first time that they have seen the Pats do this, when in fact this has been going on for years.
Posted:
#94
Quote Originally Posted by slyspy700:
Brady and these fucks aren't going to win shit. These games they win are due to them riding some confidence.
When the business starts, these fucks are going to be on a taxi home crying. They won't get it together come January regardless of the bullshit home advantage.
Brady and these fucks aren't going to win shit. These games they win are due to them riding some confidence.
When the business starts, these fucks are going to be on a taxi home crying. They won't get it together come January regardless of the bullshit home advantage.
So it's bad to win and it's worse to win big?And it's bad to have homefield advantage?You must live in the Bizzarow world.
Posted:
#95
Quote Originally Posted by ALSNOW:
The Pats scored 10 pts in the second half and ran the ball. Show me these stats from games when he should have been taken out and put up major yardage and TD's. You won't be able to because it never happened. Also show me when Manning, Brees, Rivers etc.. have been pulled in blowouts early in the second half if at all.
Stop being bitter for decades the Pats were on the other side of lop sided beatings and no one complained. When NO and Baltimore crushed the Pats last year no players were pulled. In fact it's a bigger slap in the face to the opponent to put in your backup than leave in your starter,
THEY ONLY SCORED 3 PTS IN 2ND HALF
Posted:
#98
As a Pats Fan, I agree with MBA. Only for the simple fact that they are risking injurying the QB when there is no need for him to be in the game. The fact of padding points ..who cares really?!
If they are up almost 30 pts in the 4th, and Brady got injured alot of you would turn it around on BB.
That said GO PATS!
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