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    LAGameofInches
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 1:16 PM ET #1

    To begin, even though last week was a 6-1 ATS week, losing that last game on Monday night really hurt.  Probably bc I wasn't expecting any "surprises" like Darnold missing the game in lieu of Flacco.  Most people, including myself, would have thought of that as a gift.  But I think the NE Defense also did, took him and the offense with returning WR's lightly, and were ALMOST completely embarrassed on MNF.  In the end, it wasn't close and just an overall terrible affair to even have on the television.

    Which brings me to tonights game...not sure about other handicappers, but I actually DO research and come out with teams and sides that I think have a 70% or higher chance of winning ATS.  If that % is anywhere in the ballpark of 70% for a SU win, it becomes a big play.  So when looking into tonights game, I'm a bit miffed at the line movements.  But, when putting things into analytic circumstances, there is an actual play on the game, so i have to respect the numbers.

    INDIANAPOLIS (PK):  So, the Colts are on the road, in what should be a chilly affair, against a team that is ahead of them by 1 game in the race for the AFC Central.  Yet the Colts have moved as a favorite, underdog, and now a PK.  Taking analytics out of this, i would push for a Titans win at home, where they seem to always play close affairs and come back to win.  ESPECIALLY given the line in tonights game.  But if that were the case, and if the NFL was this easy, why wouldn't the Colts be a 3 point UNDERDOG?  It's because they are going to ride their defense, a running game, and a low scoring game to victory.  Add in that the Colts are 13-4 ATS in the last 17 meetings and, if that wasn't enough, are 6-2 ATS in the last 8 in Tennessee.  I think this is close, Rivers does VERY well lifetime against Tennessee, almost as bad as he is vs. Baltimore, and I"m going to bite.

    I am also going to give out a play in soccer, which is by a wide margin my best sport.  It begins at 11:45 PST so keep that in mind if you are interested.  And it's not because i live in the United States am i giving this play, it's because I truly believe in it.  A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.

    USA MNT (PK) +105:  I understand the best U.S. player is NOT going to be playing, and thats Pulisic.  But I also understand their opponent and the Welsh have very few top class players, outside of Garreth Bale and Ben Davies.  They have already said Bale is NOT starting, so the U.S. doesn't have to worry about 60 minutes or so of his relentless speed and skill on the field.  Ben Davies is solid (plays for Tottenham), but is not going to be game changer against this crop of U.S. talent.  Since the game is being played in Europe, most of the U.S. team will be European based players, which is a VERY good thing.  They know how the game is played out there, don't have to adjust to any time differences, and are the best the United States has to offer.  The list of Weston McKennie (Juventus), Sergino Dest (Barcelona), Zac Steffen (Manchester City), Gio Reyna (Dortmund), and Yunus Musah (17 yr. old Valencia player with Italian and English ties but chose U.S.), will form a core for many years to come.  But they will also be super motivated in a "friendly" to at least keep the score close, if not surprise with a win.  I think Berhalter is a solid coach, the matchup is right, and a PK at least will guarantee if a tie happens, you don't lose.  Full disclosure, I played this two days ago at +1/4 which means i win half my bet if it ties, but the PK is still very valuable.

    As always, open to comments, but keep them productive.  Tail or fade, good luck to all...

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    To begin, even though last week was a 6-1 ATS week, losing that last game on Monday night really hurt.  Probably bc I wasn't expecting any "surprises" like Darnold missing the game in lieu of Flacco.  Most people, including myself, would have thought of that as a gift.  But I think the NE Defense also did, took him and the offense with returning WR's lightly, and were ALMOST completely embarrassed on MNF.  In the end, it wasn't close and just an overall terrible affair to even have on the television.

    Which brings me to tonights game...not sure about other handicappers, but I actually DO research and come out with teams and sides that I think have a 70% or higher chance of winning ATS.  If that % is anywhere in the ballpark of 70% for a SU win, it becomes a big play.  So when looking into tonights game, I'm a bit miffed at the line movements.  But, when putting things into analytic circumstances, there is an actual play on the game, so i have to respect the numbers.

    INDIANAPOLIS (PK):  So, the Colts are on the road, in what should be a chilly affair, against a team that is ahead of them by 1 game in the race for the AFC Central.  Yet the Colts have moved as a favorite, underdog, and now a PK.  Taking analytics out of this, i would push for a Titans win at home, where they seem to always play close affairs and come back to win.  ESPECIALLY given the line in tonights game.  But if that were the case, and if the NFL was this easy, why wouldn't the Colts be a 3 point UNDERDOG?  It's because they are going to ride their defense, a running game, and a low scoring game to victory.  Add in that the Colts are 13-4 ATS in the last 17 meetings and, if that wasn't enough, are 6-2 ATS in the last 8 in Tennessee.  I think this is close, Rivers does VERY well lifetime against Tennessee, almost as bad as he is vs. Baltimore, and I"m going to bite.

    I am also going to give out a play in soccer, which is by a wide margin my best sport.  It begins at 11:45 PST so keep that in mind if you are interested.  And it's not because i live in the United States am i giving this play, it's because I truly believe in it.  A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.

    USA MNT (PK) +105:  I understand the best U.S. player is NOT going to be playing, and thats Pulisic.  But I also understand their opponent and the Welsh have very few top class players, outside of Garreth Bale and Ben Davies.  They have already said Bale is NOT starting, so the U.S. doesn't have to worry about 60 minutes or so of his relentless speed and skill on the field.  Ben Davies is solid (plays for Tottenham), but is not going to be game changer against this crop of U.S. talent.  Since the game is being played in Europe, most of the U.S. team will be European based players, which is a VERY good thing.  They know how the game is played out there, don't have to adjust to any time differences, and are the best the United States has to offer.  The list of Weston McKennie (Juventus), Sergino Dest (Barcelona), Zac Steffen (Manchester City), Gio Reyna (Dortmund), and Yunus Musah (17 yr. old Valencia player with Italian and English ties but chose U.S.), will form a core for many years to come.  But they will also be super motivated in a "friendly" to at least keep the score close, if not surprise with a win.  I think Berhalter is a solid coach, the matchup is right, and a PK at least will guarantee if a tie happens, you don't lose.  Full disclosure, I played this two days ago at +1/4 which means i win half my bet if it ties, but the PK is still very valuable.

    As always, open to comments, but keep them productive.  Tail or fade, good luck to all...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 1:33 PM ET #2

    Love your write ups. I was leaving Colts, now I feel even better about it. Thank you bro 

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    Love your write ups. I was leaving Colts, now I feel even better about it. Thank you bro 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 1:46 PM ET #3

    @LAGameofInches

     What are you talking about with "not expecting any surprises" like Flacco starting in place of Darnold.  Did you really not know Flacco was playing when you capped and placed your MNF bet?  Or do you mean you knew this but figured you'd roll with it anyway?  

    Thanks 

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @LAGameofInches

     What are you talking about with "not expecting any surprises" like Flacco starting in place of Darnold.  Did you really not know Flacco was playing when you capped and placed your MNF bet?  Or do you mean you knew this but figured you'd roll with it anyway?  

    Thanks 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 2:05 PM ET #4

    @kcblitzkrieg

     thanks for questioning me...i know you dont mean malice by it but I didn't realize he was fully in bc as stated in my past posts he wasn't fully declared OUT and i played the UNDER on Wednesday night, days before the MNF affair.  learnt my lesson as I really did think Darnold would be back and the game would be very similar to the one played against the Bills, which WAS an under.

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     thanks for questioning me...i know you dont mean malice by it but I didn't realize he was fully in bc as stated in my past posts he wasn't fully declared OUT and i played the UNDER on Wednesday night, days before the MNF affair.  learnt my lesson as I really did think Darnold would be back and the game would be very similar to the one played against the Bills, which WAS an under.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 2:14 PM ET #5

    UPDATE ON SOCCER GAME:  Wales did NOT include Garreth Bale.  The U.S. has a pretty strong lineup in, think they can win outright.  Let's see how this plays out...

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    UPDATE ON SOCCER GAME:  Wales did NOT include Garreth Bale.  The U.S. has a pretty strong lineup in, think they can win outright.  Let's see how this plays out...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 4:24 PM ET #6

    @LAGameofInches

     Thanks and good luck peace_5

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @LAGameofInches

     Thanks and good luck peace_5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 4:50 PM ET #7

    USA MNT (PK) +105 Pan_eek2

    Good news here is that I had played it when it was +1/4 so I won half my bet.  Bad news is they really should have beaten Wales and I think the outlook on the match was pretty spot on.  But with little time to train together, I think this team will wreak havoc against even better sides once they can properly mesh. Very encouraging though, for this particular posted play, no harm no foul.

    Looking forward to cashing tonights game...

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    USA MNT (PK) +105 Pan_eek2

    Good news here is that I had played it when it was +1/4 so I won half my bet.  Bad news is they really should have beaten Wales and I think the outlook on the match was pretty spot on.  But with little time to train together, I think this team will wreak havoc against even better sides once they can properly mesh. Very encouraging though, for this particular posted play, no harm no foul.

    Looking forward to cashing tonights game...

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:00 PM ET #8

    Appreciate the insight! Let's go Indy!

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    Appreciate the insight! Let's go Indy!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:03 PM ET #9

    Lump of coal incoming

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    Lump of coal incoming

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:12 PM ET #10

    The NY Jets' website stated that Flacco would be starting at 9:58am EST. Kick off was 8:20pm EST. That's over 10 hours in between. Probably enough time to factor that into your "capping."

    https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/joe-flacco-expected-to-start-for-injured-sam-darnold-vs-patriots-on-monday-night

    I don't think anyone means malice but it's probably okay that you simply overlooked this fact and made a mistake. It happens. 

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    The NY Jets' website stated that Flacco would be starting at 9:58am EST. Kick off was 8:20pm EST. That's over 10 hours in between. Probably enough time to factor that into your "capping."

    https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/joe-flacco-expected-to-start-for-injured-sam-darnold-vs-patriots-on-monday-night

    I don't think anyone means malice but it's probably okay that you simply overlooked this fact and made a mistake. It happens. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:13 PM ET #11

    Let's GO Colts!clover

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    Let's GO Colts!clover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:19 PM ET #12

    GL cloverLAGameofInches peace_5

    nice an_horsewrite up by the way mah man new_pleased

    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    GL cloverLAGameofInches peace_5

    nice an_horsewrite up by the way mah man new_pleased

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:41 PM ET #13

    @thekoreanmang

    Quote Originally Posted by thekoreanmang:

    The NY Jets' website stated that Flacco would be starting at 9:58am EST. Kick off was 8:20pm EST. That's over 10 hours in between. Probably enough time to factor that into your "capping." https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/joe-flacco-expected-to-start-for-injured-sam-darnold-vs-patriots-on-monday-night I don't think anyone means malice but it's probably okay that you simply overlooked this fact and made a mistake. It happens.

    you're a fool.  read the ENTIRE post as well as my response and previous posts.  i BET THE GAME ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT...i've said that a handful of times sorry if i come off aggressive i just hate having to prove myself over and over in this forum.  it was a BAD play in retrospect but I obviously didn't think it would be when i had first placed it.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekoreanmang:

    The NY Jets' website stated that Flacco would be starting at 9:58am EST. Kick off was 8:20pm EST. That's over 10 hours in between. Probably enough time to factor that into your "capping." https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/joe-flacco-expected-to-start-for-injured-sam-darnold-vs-patriots-on-monday-night I don't think anyone means malice but it's probably okay that you simply overlooked this fact and made a mistake. It happens.

    you're a fool.  read the ENTIRE post as well as my response and previous posts.  i BET THE GAME ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT...i've said that a handful of times sorry if i come off aggressive i just hate having to prove myself over and over in this forum.  it was a BAD play in retrospect but I obviously didn't think it would be when i had first placed it.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:42 PM ET #14

    @Macwestie1

     thank you.  much appreciated.  let's all make some money, love your angles too.  you have the most colorful postings ;)

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    @Macwestie1

     thank you.  much appreciated.  let's all make some money, love your angles too.  you have the most colorful postings ;)

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:53 PM ET #15

    How is USMNT PK+105 “A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.”  Very confused by that. Anyways, goodluck tonight. 

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    How is USMNT PK+105 “A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.”  Very confused by that. Anyways, goodluck tonight. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 7:54 PM ET #16

    I got Indy also, but I don't like the line movement at all.. baccing Indy after double digit losses have been profitable in the past... But we all know Rivers doesn't really start to play well until December rolls around (look at his career record in December it's crazy).. I  had Indy winning 11 games before the season started, but if they don't win Tonite that's prob not achievable.. not to mention Tenn will be (3-0) in the division if they win this game and will be @ Indy in 2 weeks from now.. this is a swing game for the colts season with.GB on deck...

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    I got Indy also, but I don't like the line movement at all.. baccing Indy after double digit losses have been profitable in the past... But we all know Rivers doesn't really start to play well until December rolls around (look at his career record in December it's crazy).. I  had Indy winning 11 games before the season started, but if they don't win Tonite that's prob not achievable.. not to mention Tenn will be (3-0) in the division if they win this game and will be @ Indy in 2 weeks from now.. this is a swing game for the colts season with.GB on deck...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketRIPKENS:

    How is USMNT PK+105 “A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.”  Very confused by that. Anyways, goodluck tonight.

    i don't understand.  they WERE a longshot, game played earlier and they tied 0-0.  longshot b/c they were playing on European soil, against a team which is ranked #20 by FIFA, and the U.S. were bringing their top European based players.  they SHOULD have won the game.

    again, i'm explaining myself and don't understand where the disconnect is.  tail or fade, either way, be comfortable with the plays.  i do my research but I have been wrong many times in the past.  with regards to the USMNT, i was neither wrong nor right, so it pushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketRIPKENS:

    How is USMNT PK+105 “A bit of a longshot, yes, but still in my opinion lots of value.”  Very confused by that. Anyways, goodluck tonight.

    i don't understand.  they WERE a longshot, game played earlier and they tied 0-0.  longshot b/c they were playing on European soil, against a team which is ranked #20 by FIFA, and the U.S. were bringing their top European based players.  they SHOULD have won the game.

    again, i'm explaining myself and don't understand where the disconnect is.  tail or fade, either way, be comfortable with the plays.  i do my research but I have been wrong many times in the past.  with regards to the USMNT, i was neither wrong nor right, so it pushed.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 8:13 PM ET #18

    Maybe you should google the definition of a long shot 

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    Maybe you should google the definition of a long shot 

     
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    GUY, they were +250 to WIN the game before Bale was announced out.  To me, and i'd say most people on this board, that's a long shot.  Just because soccer offers a TIE doesn't mean by taking that tie (or pick), the team all of a sudden isn't a long shot.  The context of long shot was used in the USMNT's ability to win this game outright, not just tie it.

    When i post a play, I expect to win it, not just push.  So yeah, better odds, not a long shot at PK+105 but with all due respect, maybe you don't bet soccer enough to know the USMNT WAS a longshot to WIN the game.

    again, spending time writing and explanation vs. drinking 

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    GUY, they were +250 to WIN the game before Bale was announced out.  To me, and i'd say most people on this board, that's a long shot.  Just because soccer offers a TIE doesn't mean by taking that tie (or pick), the team all of a sudden isn't a long shot.  The context of long shot was used in the USMNT's ability to win this game outright, not just tie it.

    When i post a play, I expect to win it, not just push.  So yeah, better odds, not a long shot at PK+105 but with all due respect, maybe you don't bet soccer enough to know the USMNT WAS a longshot to WIN the game.

    again, spending time writing and explanation vs. drinking 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 8:22 PM ET #20

    Oh I do, that’s why I said something. Carry on. 

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    Oh I do, that’s why I said something. Carry on. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 8:23 PM ET #21

    Also, There was zero value in betting that game. 

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    Also, There was zero value in betting that game. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2020 - 11:19 PM ET #22

    Nice work an_cheers

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    Nice work an_cheers

     
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    Nice work lapeace_5

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    Nice work lapeace_5

     
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    What’s with big write up . U got free time in your hand .... 

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    What’s with big write up . U got free time in your hand .... 

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