Quote Originally Posted by MuppetBabies: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: I just have one question. Did he use any force? Outline exactly how that matters in relation to what evidence has been brought against him and proven. Or does force (assuming you are male) specifically cross the line for you. Find help. ........... No force = they willingly did what ever. He didn't harm or make them do anything
But you believe he actually got massages?
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by MuppetBabies: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: I just have one question. Did he use any force? Outline exactly how that matters in relation to what evidence has been brought against him and proven. Or does force (assuming you are male) specifically cross the line for you. Find help. ........... No force = they willingly did what ever. He didn't harm or make them do anything
But it wasn't. It's clear many have not followed the actual police reports/court documents besides listening to the media. So many sexual assault cases basically come down to he said..she said if there's literally no video or eyewitnesses. That's why they don't get reported or prosecuted. Dude is a straight-up creeper. What major athlete do you know goes to IG and hires over 20 masseuses when they have handlers/assistants that can put them in contact with the best physical therapists and massagers in the industry?
No, he didn't rape them but he took advantage of the fact that women who thought that had acquired a BIG client. He decided to pull out his wacker and/or rub up against them thinking they wouldn't object b/c they wanted the money and big client. I do agree that some of these women probably had some idea he was a creeper and with the program but the fact that he choose to keep hiring so many shows his predatorial behavior. Let's be real here. What other athlete you know that's hiring that many masseuses? He's not spreading the wealth around out of the goodness of his heart.
The act of groping is sexual assault. Groping may occur under or over the clothing. I 100% believe he did this with many of those women. And when it's his word against her word then with no physical evidence (no bruising, no pics) or video evidence then that's hard to prove in court. There are a ton of cases that show this. So you can't just go by, well he'd be on trial or in jail if he did something wrong. But that's how you know he's a good predator. He had a great setup that limited his chances of being put in jail if he got caught.
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But it wasn't. It's clear many have not followed the actual police reports/court documents besides listening to the media. So many sexual assault cases basically come down to he said..she said if there's literally no video or eyewitnesses. That's why they don't get reported or prosecuted. Dude is a straight-up creeper. What major athlete do you know goes to IG and hires over 20 masseuses when they have handlers/assistants that can put them in contact with the best physical therapists and massagers in the industry?
No, he didn't rape them but he took advantage of the fact that women who thought that had acquired a BIG client. He decided to pull out his wacker and/or rub up against them thinking they wouldn't object b/c they wanted the money and big client. I do agree that some of these women probably had some idea he was a creeper and with the program but the fact that he choose to keep hiring so many shows his predatorial behavior. Let's be real here. What other athlete you know that's hiring that many masseuses? He's not spreading the wealth around out of the goodness of his heart.
The act of groping is sexual assault. Groping may occur under or over the clothing. I 100% believe he did this with many of those women. And when it's his word against her word then with no physical evidence (no bruising, no pics) or video evidence then that's hard to prove in court. There are a ton of cases that show this. So you can't just go by, well he'd be on trial or in jail if he did something wrong. But that's how you know he's a good predator. He had a great setup that limited his chances of being put in jail if he got caught.
Look up the definition of sexual assault. If groping is not welcomed you can be arrested for sexual assault. Simply touching or indecent behavior can be considered sexual assault. It's simply hard to prove many times.
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Look up the definition of sexual assault. If groping is not welcomed you can be arrested for sexual assault. Simply touching or indecent behavior can be considered sexual assault. It's simply hard to prove many times.
It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters.
I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
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@chic-cardinals
It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters.
I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
@chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids.
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Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83:
@chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids.
Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids.
Whether anyone has a daughter is irrelevant to this.
It means you're using emotion and not logic.
You having a child has nothing to do with this.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids.
Whether anyone has a daughter is irrelevant to this.
@chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
You're creating a fictional scenario in your head.
Based on vague stories.
If this were actually what you thought it was. It wouldn't be just about missing games.
Hes guilty if nothing.
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Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83:
@chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.
You're creating a fictional scenario in your head.
Based on vague stories.
If this were actually what you thought it was. It wouldn't be just about missing games.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids. Whether anyone has a daughter is irrelevant to this. It means you're using emotion and not logic. You having a child has nothing to do with this.
I agree, I was pointing out that you have never seen a vagina. Not sure where the disconnect is here. GFY.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals It shows that no one understands what sexual assault is. I hope none you have daughters. I don't know how many games is enough. Should be out of the league but we all know the NFL doesn't really care for real and wants this to go away as fast as possible. I'm actually surprised they contested. Only reason they did was due to even more backlash. At this point, make a decision and move on b/c that's what's going to happen anyway.Chic couldn’t pick a vagina out of a lineup of one. So no worry about him having kids. Whether anyone has a daughter is irrelevant to this. It means you're using emotion and not logic. You having a child has nothing to do with this.
I agree, I was pointing out that you have never seen a vagina. Not sure where the disconnect is here. GFY.
Clearly, you didn't read my other comments as it relates to evidence and the definition of sexual assault. Facts isn't emotion. Your lack of common sense and actually knowing the law shows.
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@chic-cardinals
Clearly, you didn't read my other comments as it relates to evidence and the definition of sexual assault. Facts isn't emotion. Your lack of common sense and actually knowing the law shows.
What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead.
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@chic-cardinals
What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead.
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: I just have one question. Did he use any force? Outline exactly how that matters in relation to what evidence has been brought against him and proven. Or does force (assuming you are male) specifically cross the line for you. Find help.
I have little knowledge of what has been reported thats why i asked the question.
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Quote Originally Posted by MuppetBabies:
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: I just have one question. Did he use any force? Outline exactly how that matters in relation to what evidence has been brought against him and proven. Or does force (assuming you are male) specifically cross the line for you. Find help.
I have little knowledge of what has been reported thats why i asked the question.
@chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead.
Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports.
This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other.
You complained about Vick..he still played.
You complained about Ray lewis. He still played.
This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year..
You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.
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Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83:
@chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead.
Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports.
This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other.
You complained about Vick..he still played.
You complained about Ray lewis. He still played.
This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year..
You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.
@chic-cardinals Clearly, you didn't read my other comments as it relates to evidence and the definition of sexual assault. Facts isn't emotion. Your lack of common sense and actually knowing the law shows.
I said the case had nothing to do with anyone's daughter. That's emotional. Has nothing to do with what you think about the so called case
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Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83:
@chic-cardinals Clearly, you didn't read my other comments as it relates to evidence and the definition of sexual assault. Facts isn't emotion. Your lack of common sense and actually knowing the law shows.
I said the case had nothing to do with anyone's daughter. That's emotional. Has nothing to do with what you think about the so called case
Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.
Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.
Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY
One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.
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One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.
One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.
As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.
As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions.
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions.
Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions.
Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions. Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
How so?
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions. Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions. Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
How many more games did Ray Rice play?
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for sure Godell did not choose the new magistrate to uphold the 6 games, he's getting another 6 at least and probably more. You can bet the baby formula on that.As he should. He is a dirt bag of biblical proportions. Lol if he was really that bad, This would be about more than missing games.
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY
Ahh Yes ,the childish cherry pick argument.
They have to throw in a heavier case here and there. Plus that was grainy video easily faked or they were acting because...oh look, still married.
Theatre, distraction, propaganda.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY
Ahh Yes ,the childish cherry pick argument.
They have to throw in a heavier case here and there. Plus that was grainy video easily faked or they were acting because...oh look, still married.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY Ahh Yes ,the childish cherry pick argument. They have to throw in a heavier case here and there. Plus that was grainy video easily faked or they were acting because...oh look, still married. Theatre, distraction, propaganda.
How is it a childish Cherry pick? How many games did he play?
You are right no women who are victims of abuse stay in those relationships.
Do you ever get tired of being pistol whipped?
Henry Ruggs, crashed his car and killed a woman? Or distraction? GFY.
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals: Quote Originally Posted by WarEagle83: @chic-cardinals What vague stories? Did you read the reports? That's what the women literally said he did. He got naked without prompted, he brushed up against them without warranted. I'm not going back and forth with an idiot who will not even read the report. F Deshawn. I don't care what does and doesn't happen to him. If you want to be that dense...go ahead. Again, vague stories. Of course I didn't waste time reading these fictional reports. This is one thing and one thing only. Pointless distraction to gossip about and cause separation about this that and the other. You complained about Vick..he still played. You complained about Ray lewis. He still played. This is small time crap. Just another version of the ....what's his face on Bucs and Raiders last year.. You expect me to believe he did the same thing with 25 women? Seriously? And no one came out till they were coaxed by a pay off? That's basically impossible. This is theatre.Ray Rice played again? What exactly caused your head trauma? Biggest mook on this site and that is beyond impressive. GFY Ahh Yes ,the childish cherry pick argument. They have to throw in a heavier case here and there. Plus that was grainy video easily faked or they were acting because...oh look, still married. Theatre, distraction, propaganda.
How is it a childish Cherry pick? How many games did he play?
You are right no women who are victims of abuse stay in those relationships.
Do you ever get tired of being pistol whipped?
Henry Ruggs, crashed his car and killed a woman? Or distraction? GFY.
The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist.
Oh wait none of this is really happening.
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The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist.
The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist. Oh wait none of this is really happening.
Strongly believe he is just one of many safs owned by one of their former lying touts .....Sole purpose of Chic is to just create clicks , no matter what the topic is , he just plays devils advocate by saying something meritless for a response....
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist. Oh wait none of this is really happening.
Strongly believe he is just one of many safs owned by one of their former lying touts .....Sole purpose of Chic is to just create clicks , no matter what the topic is , he just plays devils advocate by saying something meritless for a response....
The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist. Oh wait none of this is really happening.
It's called busy work, distraction, propaganda. Going through the motions. Acting, theatre.
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Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:
The Fact this mook hasn’t been banned really tells you everything you need to know about Covers. Need the clicks now that their “Legends plays” cease to exist. Oh wait none of this is really happening.
It's called busy work, distraction, propaganda. Going through the motions. Acting, theatre.
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