This makes no sense on its surface. There must be something deeper. Miami is not out of it yet this season, yet they just jettisoned on of their top 3 players for next to nothing (a 4th rounder next year - milk toast). Jay Ajayi was the 3rd best running back in the NFL this year after a hit according to experts. He could not run because the offensive line is performing at the worst in the NFL. So how do you make a team stronger by getting rid of your star running back when running is one of your biggest need areas? Was he falling asleep in meetings due to concussions? Was he trying to renegotiate his contract? The Dolphins loss is the Eagles gain. I think the Eagles are the favorite to win the Super Bowl now with Carson throwing, Jay running and that great defense. Miami is left twisting in the wind. Amazing. Thoughts?
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This makes no sense on its surface. There must be something deeper. Miami is not out of it yet this season, yet they just jettisoned on of their top 3 players for next to nothing (a 4th rounder next year - milk toast). Jay Ajayi was the 3rd best running back in the NFL this year after a hit according to experts. He could not run because the offensive line is performing at the worst in the NFL. So how do you make a team stronger by getting rid of your star running back when running is one of your biggest need areas? Was he falling asleep in meetings due to concussions? Was he trying to renegotiate his contract? The Dolphins loss is the Eagles gain. I think the Eagles are the favorite to win the Super Bowl now with Carson throwing, Jay running and that great defense. Miami is left twisting in the wind. Amazing. Thoughts?
I would say the situation is either money, stupidity, or a combination of the two. Some of these football organizations are not as bright as we think they are. Another thing to consider what if they are changing offensive styles and he does not fit that style. Btw did they make the pick conditional ?
I would say the situation is either money, stupidity, or a combination of the two. Some of these football organizations are not as bright as we think they are. Another thing to consider what if they are changing offensive styles and he does not fit that style. Btw did they make the pick conditional ?
I wouldnt be so quick to call the Eagles immediate favorites to go to the Super Bowl with the Ajayi move. Yes they are good but until they play and win against a good defense i will reserve judgment. They could very well end up in the NFC Championship game but only thing going against them is playoff experience.
Sip on that plus money honey!
I wouldnt be so quick to call the Eagles immediate favorites to go to the Super Bowl with the Ajayi move. Yes they are good but until they play and win against a good defense i will reserve judgment. They could very well end up in the NFC Championship game but only thing going against them is playoff experience.
This makes no sense on its surface. There must be something deeper. Miami is not out of it yet this season, yet they just jettisoned on of their top 3 players for next to nothing (a 4th rounder next year - milk toast). Jay Ajayi was the 3rd best running back in the NFL this year after a hit according to experts. He could not run because the offensive line is performing at the worst in the NFL. So how do you make a team stronger by getting rid of your star running back when running is one of your biggest need areas? Was he falling asleep in meetings due to concussions? Was he trying to renegotiate his contract? The Dolphins loss is the Eagles gain. I think the Eagles are the favorite to win the Super Bowl now with Carson throwing, Jay running and that great defense. Miami is left twisting in the wind. Amazing. Thoughts?
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Could it be any more obvious.
Quote Originally Posted by footballsmart:
This makes no sense on its surface. There must be something deeper. Miami is not out of it yet this season, yet they just jettisoned on of their top 3 players for next to nothing (a 4th rounder next year - milk toast). Jay Ajayi was the 3rd best running back in the NFL this year after a hit according to experts. He could not run because the offensive line is performing at the worst in the NFL. So how do you make a team stronger by getting rid of your star running back when running is one of your biggest need areas? Was he falling asleep in meetings due to concussions? Was he trying to renegotiate his contract? The Dolphins loss is the Eagles gain. I think the Eagles are the favorite to win the Super Bowl now with Carson throwing, Jay running and that great defense. Miami is left twisting in the wind. Amazing. Thoughts?
I am a Miami fan and also confused by trading him for a 4th round pick, you would think as young as he is with great upside. I liked him obviously but at the same time think he was overrated. Look at his game by game stats last year, he would but up nothing then hit 200 yard games and then average again.
Gase is not a coach who would call players out for no reason, at least not by reputation but who really knows what goes on behind the doors right. I am taking a guess that something must be going on behind the scenes like you suggested. It could also just be a lack of control of Gase, can’t forget the whole coke stripper incident hahaha, am I the only jealous person! Haha Just like work, one bad player can ruin the mentality of the group, well I assume it’s at least close to the same as in a college locker room.
This definitely doesn’t hurt the Eagles but also don’t think this will make them the dominate team. Granted I would be happy to get a player with this talent for a pick that doesn’t usually pay off.
I am a Miami fan and also confused by trading him for a 4th round pick, you would think as young as he is with great upside. I liked him obviously but at the same time think he was overrated. Look at his game by game stats last year, he would but up nothing then hit 200 yard games and then average again.
Gase is not a coach who would call players out for no reason, at least not by reputation but who really knows what goes on behind the doors right. I am taking a guess that something must be going on behind the scenes like you suggested. It could also just be a lack of control of Gase, can’t forget the whole coke stripper incident hahaha, am I the only jealous person! Haha Just like work, one bad player can ruin the mentality of the group, well I assume it’s at least close to the same as in a college locker room.
This definitely doesn’t hurt the Eagles but also don’t think this will make them the dominate team. Granted I would be happy to get a player with this talent for a pick that doesn’t usually pay off.
When you're in command of a group of men, and someone is undermining your authority, you have to make an example out of them. You watch this week how the Dolphins play. It will be their most spirited game of the year.
There's also the finger pointing psychological aspect. The rest of the players can point their fingers and say, "You see, it wasn't our fault, it was his fault."
When you're in command of a group of men, and someone is undermining your authority, you have to make an example out of them. You watch this week how the Dolphins play. It will be their most spirited game of the year.
There's also the finger pointing psychological aspect. The rest of the players can point their fingers and say, "You see, it wasn't our fault, it was his fault."
When you're in command of a group of men, and someone is undermining your authority, you have to make an example out of them. You watch this week how the Dolphins play. It will be their most spirited game of the year.There's also the finger pointing psychological aspect. The rest of the players can point their fingers and say, "You see, it wasn't our fault, it was his fault."
How did jay usurp coach gase's authority?
Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
When you're in command of a group of men, and someone is undermining your authority, you have to make an example out of them. You watch this week how the Dolphins play. It will be their most spirited game of the year.There's also the finger pointing psychological aspect. The rest of the players can point their fingers and say, "You see, it wasn't our fault, it was his fault."
You're missing the point. It's about the responsibility and burden of command. Anyone reading this who has served in the military, especially an officer, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Take Miami with the points.
You're missing the point. It's about the responsibility and burden of command. Anyone reading this who has served in the military, especially an officer, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Take Miami with the points.
I wouldnt be so quick to call the Eagles immediate favorites to go to the Super Bowl with the Ajayi move. Yes they are good but until they play and win against a good defense i will reserve judgment. They could very well end up in the NFC Championship game but only thing going against them is playoff experience.
They were already the favorites. Obviously, being a favorite is far from being a sure thing.
Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:
I wouldnt be so quick to call the Eagles immediate favorites to go to the Super Bowl with the Ajayi move. Yes they are good but until they play and win against a good defense i will reserve judgment. They could very well end up in the NFC Championship game but only thing going against them is playoff experience.
They were already the favorites. Obviously, being a favorite is far from being a sure thing.
You're missing the point. It's about the responsibility and burden of command. Anyone reading this who has served in the military, especially an officer, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Take Miami with the points.
I get the need for a leader to be tough doc. Gase did that well last year by not taking jay to the first away game. And jay responded with one of the best rushing seasons in dolphins history. So why couldn't he just bench him for all players to see ... then use him when get was ready. But more importantly, what did jay do this year? I'm sure it was something to anger Gase . .. but I never read of it. You don't go trading your best player for a low 4th round pick just to show who is boss! There must be more. Much more!
Quote Originally Posted by DoctorSuccess:
You're missing the point. It's about the responsibility and burden of command. Anyone reading this who has served in the military, especially an officer, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Take Miami with the points.
I get the need for a leader to be tough doc. Gase did that well last year by not taking jay to the first away game. And jay responded with one of the best rushing seasons in dolphins history. So why couldn't he just bench him for all players to see ... then use him when get was ready. But more importantly, what did jay do this year? I'm sure it was something to anger Gase . .. but I never read of it. You don't go trading your best player for a low 4th round pick just to show who is boss! There must be more. Much more!
ajayi is a lil banged up and apparently has had a lot of fueds in the locker room.... i think he wanted a move..... tbh though he hasnt been great this year and has only one good year.... i think people over rate him....he is very banged up this year.... tho putting him along side the big train in blount should keep him healthy a lil longer and closer to playoffs.... i still do not think a team with a second year qb should be the fav to win the superbowl....lets see how this guy does in the playoffs and under boat loads of pressure... but def a win for phili.... but again i think ajayi was traded due to major issues in the locker room
ajayi is a lil banged up and apparently has had a lot of fueds in the locker room.... i think he wanted a move..... tbh though he hasnt been great this year and has only one good year.... i think people over rate him....he is very banged up this year.... tho putting him along side the big train in blount should keep him healthy a lil longer and closer to playoffs.... i still do not think a team with a second year qb should be the fav to win the superbowl....lets see how this guy does in the playoffs and under boat loads of pressure... but def a win for phili.... but again i think ajayi was traded due to major issues in the locker room
I can only hope Gase is smarter than espn....here is a quote just out on espn...and I agree with it:
However, the Dolphins would have been wiser to keep Ajayi for the rest of this season to see whether they could have made a second-half push instead of jumping at the chance to land a measly fourth-rounder. Ajayi still had one year left on his rookie contract. He likely would have had the same, if not more, value in the offseason if Miami still wanted to trade him.
I can only hope Gase is smarter than espn....here is a quote just out on espn...and I agree with it:
However, the Dolphins would have been wiser to keep Ajayi for the rest of this season to see whether they could have made a second-half push instead of jumping at the chance to land a measly fourth-rounder. Ajayi still had one year left on his rookie contract. He likely would have had the same, if not more, value in the offseason if Miami still wanted to trade him.
Trading jay away was nothing short of the sporting equivalent of team and coach suicide. It makes absolutely NO SENSE. I sincerely hope I am wrong. But I think on this one I'm spot on.
Trading jay away was nothing short of the sporting equivalent of team and coach suicide. It makes absolutely NO SENSE. I sincerely hope I am wrong. But I think on this one I'm spot on.
I would say the situation is either money, stupidity, or a combination of the two. Some of these football organizations are not as bright as we think they are. Another thing to consider what if they are changing offensive styles and he does not fit that style. Btw did they make the pick conditional ?
I don't think anyone's ever accused the Dolphins of being bright.
Quote Originally Posted by MagicMan64:
I would say the situation is either money, stupidity, or a combination of the two. Some of these football organizations are not as bright as we think they are. Another thing to consider what if they are changing offensive styles and he does not fit that style. Btw did they make the pick conditional ?
I don't think anyone's ever accused the Dolphins of being bright.
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