The Pats had to face the Jets twice and CLE once. That dragged down their strength of schedule.
Looking at each team's best 10 opponents, ATL went 7-3 against foes with a combined 105-66-3 with a scoring differential of +78. NE went 9-1 against foes that went a combined 101-71-2 with a point differential of +118.
Atlanta's Top 10 opponents had only 4 more wins (less than 5% of the total) than the Pats Top 10 opponents did. Really not much difference combined record wise, I'd even go so far as to say their schedules were statistically even given NE contributed to more of their losses and Atlanta contributed to more of their wins. But NE won more games and had a larger differential.
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The Pats had to face the Jets twice and CLE once. That dragged down their strength of schedule.
Looking at each team's best 10 opponents, ATL went 7-3 against foes with a combined 105-66-3 with a scoring differential of +78. NE went 9-1 against foes that went a combined 101-71-2 with a point differential of +118.
Atlanta's Top 10 opponents had only 4 more wins (less than 5% of the total) than the Pats Top 10 opponents did. Really not much difference combined record wise, I'd even go so far as to say their schedules were statistically even given NE contributed to more of their losses and Atlanta contributed to more of their wins. But NE won more games and had a larger differential.
Patriots earned exactly a 50% higher point differential over the Falcons (39/78) over top 10 opponents during 2016 season. That is significant for essentially very similar SOS across top 10 opponents.
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Patriots earned exactly a 50% higher point differential over the Falcons (39/78) over top 10 opponents during 2016 season. That is significant for essentially very similar SOS across top 10 opponents.
Also, simply playing a "harder schedule" isn't something that should automatically give someone an advantage. Atlanta was 4-4 vs top 15 ranked scoring defense. Even decent defenses were able to have success against them.
Seattle back in 2013 had a really weak schedule and completely annihilated the best offense of all time.
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Also, simply playing a "harder schedule" isn't something that should automatically give someone an advantage. Atlanta was 4-4 vs top 15 ranked scoring defense. Even decent defenses were able to have success against them.
Seattle back in 2013 had a really weak schedule and completely annihilated the best offense of all time.
I understand all of that, the problem with DVOA is it doesn't discount SOS when you take away the 6 weakest opponents for each team. The point of my post is if you take out the bottom feeders causing Pats to have a #32 SOS or whatever and compare NEP vs ATL with their 10 hardest opponents, you have a more level playing field to compare performances. Some may argue ATL had harder in opponents in their top 10 matches, but the aggregate team records and effective Net Points tell a different story. A story where their SOS was very similar in the top 10 games (the games that mattered?) and NEP managed to have a 50% edge when it came to net point differentials comparing those top 10 hardest matches.
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Quote Originally Posted by OStateBucks:
DVOA already factors in strength of schedule & time of season weightings:
NE:
#1 overall DVOA & #1 weighted DVOA
#2 offensive DVOA & #1 weighted DVOA
#16 defensive DVOA & #11 weighted DVOA
#7 special teams DVOA
#32 strength of schedule per opp DVOA
ATL:
#3 overall DVOA & #4 weighted DVOA
#1 offensive DVOA & #2 weighted DVOA
#27 defensive DVOA & #22 weighted DVOA
#8 special teams DVOA
#16 strength of schedule per opp DVOA
FO also gives the estimated wins based on Forest Index (which weights specific situations e.g. red zone defense, etc) & Pythagorean:
NE - #1 - 11.9 expected wins
ATL - #3 - 11.7 expected wins
Pythagorean Wins (scoring margin only based win expectancy):
NE - #1 - 12.8 expected wins
ATL - #3 - 10.9 expected wins
The scoring differential is worth 2 more games won.
I understand all of that, the problem with DVOA is it doesn't discount SOS when you take away the 6 weakest opponents for each team. The point of my post is if you take out the bottom feeders causing Pats to have a #32 SOS or whatever and compare NEP vs ATL with their 10 hardest opponents, you have a more level playing field to compare performances. Some may argue ATL had harder in opponents in their top 10 matches, but the aggregate team records and effective Net Points tell a different story. A story where their SOS was very similar in the top 10 games (the games that mattered?) and NEP managed to have a 50% edge when it came to net point differentials comparing those top 10 hardest matches.
Perhaps NEP didn't DOMINATE the 6 games against the bottom feeders and maximize their net point differential in THOSE lower tier matches, but that information is much less valuable.
Who cares how a team performs against the bottom ~8 teams in the league when we are talking about an opponent in the SB that should be a much higher caliber.
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Perhaps NEP didn't DOMINATE the 6 games against the bottom feeders and maximize their net point differential in THOSE lower tier matches, but that information is much less valuable.
Who cares how a team performs against the bottom ~8 teams in the league when we are talking about an opponent in the SB that should be a much higher caliber.
My understanding is DVOA is measured per play and factors in opponent strength of schedule. So removing "weaker" opponents won't impact the final DVOA score if each play is given equal weight.
"The biggest variable in football is the fact that each team plays a different schedule against teams of disparate quality. By adjusting each play based on the opposing defense’s average success in stopping that type of play over the course of a season, we get DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average."
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My understanding is DVOA is measured per play and factors in opponent strength of schedule. So removing "weaker" opponents won't impact the final DVOA score if each play is given equal weight.
"The biggest variable in football is the fact that each team plays a different schedule against teams of disparate quality. By adjusting each play based on the opposing defense’s average success in stopping that type of play over the course of a season, we get DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average."
You know, just noticed this game looks a bit similar to the 2013 AFC Conference Championship game. Granted that game was @DEN, so much different environment and conducive to lower scoring game.
NE:
#5 overall DVOA
#4 offensive
#21 defensive DVOA
#2 special teams DVOA
#5 strength of schedule per opp DVOA
#3 scoring offense
#10 scoring defense
DEN:
#2 overall DVOA
#1 offensive DVOA
#15 defensive DVOA
#21 special teams DVOA
#2 strength of schedule per opp DVOA
#1 scoring offense
#22 scoring defense
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You know, just noticed this game looks a bit similar to the 2013 AFC Conference Championship game. Granted that game was @DEN, so much different environment and conducive to lower scoring game.
My understanding is DVOA is measured per play and factors in opponent strength of schedule. So removing "weaker" opponents won't impact the final DVOA score if each play is given equal weight.
"The biggest variable in football is the fact that each team plays a different schedule against teams of disparate quality. By adjusting each play based on the opposing defense’s average success in stopping that type of play over the course of a season, we get DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average."
I am not sure what you are arguing, you are just regurgitating what the DVOA site says.
I am arguing against those stating NEP is not a strong team since they didn't play anyone good (hence their weak SOS dictates they cannot stop ATL). I gave examples how when we compare apples to apples each of their 10 respective hardest matches, their opponents records matchup nearly identically, particularly when you take into account NEP forced their opponents to lose more games and comparatively ATL allowed some of their opponents to win more games thru beating ATL.
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Quote Originally Posted by OStateBucks:
My understanding is DVOA is measured per play and factors in opponent strength of schedule. So removing "weaker" opponents won't impact the final DVOA score if each play is given equal weight.
"The biggest variable in football is the fact that each team plays a different schedule against teams of disparate quality. By adjusting each play based on the opposing defense’s average success in stopping that type of play over the course of a season, we get DVOA, or Defense-adjusted Value Over Average."
I am not sure what you are arguing, you are just regurgitating what the DVOA site says.
I am arguing against those stating NEP is not a strong team since they didn't play anyone good (hence their weak SOS dictates they cannot stop ATL). I gave examples how when we compare apples to apples each of their 10 respective hardest matches, their opponents records matchup nearly identically, particularly when you take into account NEP forced their opponents to lose more games and comparatively ATL allowed some of their opponents to win more games thru beating ATL.
I am not sure what you are arguing, you are just regurgitating what the DVOA site says.
I am arguing against those stating NEP is not a strong team since they didn't play anyone good (hence their weak SOS dictates they cannot stop ATL). I gave examples how when we compare apples to apples each of their 10 respective hardest matches, their opponents records matchup nearly identically, particularly when you take into account NEP forced their opponents to lose more games and comparatively ATL allowed some of their opponents to win more games thru beating ATL.
I'm arguing:
- DVOA already provides an apples to apples comparison of rankings & a normalized expected win total (forest index).
- The teams are separated by 0.2 wins, so if Atlanta played the same schedule NE played, you'd see virtually identical numbers.
- The 50% point differential you reference is actually statistically insignificant
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Quote Originally Posted by Nycgags:
I am not sure what you are arguing, you are just regurgitating what the DVOA site says.
I am arguing against those stating NEP is not a strong team since they didn't play anyone good (hence their weak SOS dictates they cannot stop ATL). I gave examples how when we compare apples to apples each of their 10 respective hardest matches, their opponents records matchup nearly identically, particularly when you take into account NEP forced their opponents to lose more games and comparatively ATL allowed some of their opponents to win more games thru beating ATL.
I'm arguing:
- DVOA already provides an apples to apples comparison of rankings & a normalized expected win total (forest index).
- The teams are separated by 0.2 wins, so if Atlanta played the same schedule NE played, you'd see virtually identical numbers.
- The 50% point differential you reference is actually statistically insignificant
- DVOA already provides an apples to apples comparison of rankings & a normalized expected win total (forest index).
- The teams are separated by 0.2 wins, so if Atlanta played the same schedule NE played, you'd see virtually identical numbers.
- The 50% point differential you reference is actually statistically insignificant
You are using DVOA as the be-all end-all, you need to broaden your toolset.
As I previously mentioned, just because the Patriots did not maximize their point differential against inferior teams, but instead focused on the win does not mean that data is meaningful in anyway, particularly when Atlanta did not face off against the same weak talent. However when comparing mid-to-upper caliber talent opponents it is clear that the Patriots out-performed the Falcons significantly, you cannot deny that.
Looking at each team's best 10 opponents, ATL went 7-3 against foes with a combined 105-66-3 with a scoring differential of +78. NE went 9-1 against foes that went a combined 101-71-2 with a point differential of +118.
Let's take a look at the 10 teams from each data set:
NEP:
Steelers
Seahawks
Dolphins
Dolphins
Texans
Broncos
Ravens
Cardinals
Bills
Bills
ATL:
Chiefs
Raiders
Seahawks
Packers
Broncos
Bucs
Bucs
Cardinals
Eagles
Saints
To Be Continued...
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Quote Originally Posted by OStateBucks:
I'm arguing:
- DVOA already provides an apples to apples comparison of rankings & a normalized expected win total (forest index).
- The teams are separated by 0.2 wins, so if Atlanta played the same schedule NE played, you'd see virtually identical numbers.
- The 50% point differential you reference is actually statistically insignificant
You are using DVOA as the be-all end-all, you need to broaden your toolset.
As I previously mentioned, just because the Patriots did not maximize their point differential against inferior teams, but instead focused on the win does not mean that data is meaningful in anyway, particularly when Atlanta did not face off against the same weak talent. However when comparing mid-to-upper caliber talent opponents it is clear that the Patriots out-performed the Falcons significantly, you cannot deny that.
Looking at each team's best 10 opponents, ATL went 7-3 against foes with a combined 105-66-3 with a scoring differential of +78. NE went 9-1 against foes that went a combined 101-71-2 with a point differential of +118.
Let's take a look at the 10 teams from each data set:
Comparing points passing yard / rushing yards per game averages of 10 toughest opponents (including playoff opponents):
NEP Opp per game AVG: 21.8 235 / 107
ATL Oppper game AVG: 24 250 / 104
NEP Opp vs. NEP AVG: 16.5 267 / 79
ATL Opp vs. ATL AVG: 25 259 / 96
NEP Opp scored 5.3 less points per game
ATL Opp scored 1 MORE points per game
NEP Opp gained 32 more passing yards per game
ATL Opp gained 9 more passing yards per game
NEP Opp lost 28 fewer rushing yards per game
ATL Opp lost 8 fewer rushing yards per game
Lastly...
NEP gave up 8.5 fewer points per game to NEP top 10 vs. ATL's top 10
ATL gave up 8 fewer passing yards per game to ATL top 10 vs NEP top 10
NEP gave up 16 fewer rushing yards per game to NEP top 10 vs. ATL's top 10
Conclusion
The Opponent averages are all pretty close 2 ppg, 15 pypg, 3 rypg differences.
The biggest stat that sticks out is Patriots gave up 8.5 fewer points per game to their top 10 hardest opponents compared to Atlanta's defensive performance against their top 10 hardest opponents.
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Comparing points passing yard / rushing yards per game averages of 10 toughest opponents (including playoff opponents):
NEP Opp per game AVG: 21.8 235 / 107
ATL Oppper game AVG: 24 250 / 104
NEP Opp vs. NEP AVG: 16.5 267 / 79
ATL Opp vs. ATL AVG: 25 259 / 96
NEP Opp scored 5.3 less points per game
ATL Opp scored 1 MORE points per game
NEP Opp gained 32 more passing yards per game
ATL Opp gained 9 more passing yards per game
NEP Opp lost 28 fewer rushing yards per game
ATL Opp lost 8 fewer rushing yards per game
Lastly...
NEP gave up 8.5 fewer points per game to NEP top 10 vs. ATL's top 10
ATL gave up 8 fewer passing yards per game to ATL top 10 vs NEP top 10
NEP gave up 16 fewer rushing yards per game to NEP top 10 vs. ATL's top 10
Conclusion
The Opponent averages are all pretty close 2 ppg, 15 pypg, 3 rypg differences.
The biggest stat that sticks out is Patriots gave up 8.5 fewer points per game to their top 10 hardest opponents compared to Atlanta's defensive performance against their top 10 hardest opponents.
I would say go with the experience here and it's one game, regular season is out the window...if the Patriots score early and often they should take it. ATL defense is horrible and the Patriots have experience on their defense. Another huge factor is the Pats O-line and if they keep Brady upright. I think Pats win but it's a tight game like it always is.
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I would say go with the experience here and it's one game, regular season is out the window...if the Patriots score early and often they should take it. ATL defense is horrible and the Patriots have experience on their defense. Another huge factor is the Pats O-line and if they keep Brady upright. I think Pats win but it's a tight game like it always is.
Putting that 8.5 points per game difference into perspective...
Patriots only gave up 16.5 points per game against their top 10 hardest opponents.
8.5 represents more than 50% of the 16.5 points they allowed per game.
Atlanta allowed their opponents to score an additional point per game over their season average. 8.5 / 24 Atlanta's top 10 hardest opponents normally score is more than 1/3 of their points per game.
That means in order for Atlanta to easily beat the Patriots they would have to at least score 35-50% more points than their opponents typically allow on average for their season. I'll leave it up to O StateBucks to perform that exercise, these statistical lookups take up too much of my time.
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Putting that 8.5 points per game difference into perspective...
Patriots only gave up 16.5 points per game against their top 10 hardest opponents.
8.5 represents more than 50% of the 16.5 points they allowed per game.
Atlanta allowed their opponents to score an additional point per game over their season average. 8.5 / 24 Atlanta's top 10 hardest opponents normally score is more than 1/3 of their points per game.
That means in order for Atlanta to easily beat the Patriots they would have to at least score 35-50% more points than their opponents typically allow on average for their season. I'll leave it up to O StateBucks to perform that exercise, these statistical lookups take up too much of my time.
People laugh when I state Patriots CAN (not will nor likely but it is possible) to hold Falcons to 18 points. Yet this continued research keeps enforcing the possibility where Patriots hold their top 10 opponents (forget the bottom feeder teams) to a mere 16.5 points per game.
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People laugh when I state Patriots CAN (not will nor likely but it is possible) to hold Falcons to 18 points. Yet this continued research keeps enforcing the possibility where Patriots hold their top 10 opponents (forget the bottom feeder teams) to a mere 16.5 points per game.
Let's put it another way, NE has 4 SB rings to ATL's 0. "Matty Ice" has been (previously) money in the bank (for the opposition) in previous P/O scenarios. Tom Brady has 9 SB appearances worth of experience to draw from, "Matty" has 1 (I'm being generous). If you throw out all facts and figures comparing these two teams in this SB and just concentrate on coaching, my $ is on BB, the greatest post season coach in history. If he takes them to the promised land, that gives BB and TB 5 SB rings and that my friends is a record. You don't think there's some incentive for the Patriots in this game? Just on that alone, my $ is safely tucked away in my bookies pocket and I'm holding a betting slip with NE -3, I plan to celebrate heavily after this one's over, knowing that SB history is going to have a new name to add. GL all
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Let's put it another way, NE has 4 SB rings to ATL's 0. "Matty Ice" has been (previously) money in the bank (for the opposition) in previous P/O scenarios. Tom Brady has 9 SB appearances worth of experience to draw from, "Matty" has 1 (I'm being generous). If you throw out all facts and figures comparing these two teams in this SB and just concentrate on coaching, my $ is on BB, the greatest post season coach in history. If he takes them to the promised land, that gives BB and TB 5 SB rings and that my friends is a record. You don't think there's some incentive for the Patriots in this game? Just on that alone, my $ is safely tucked away in my bookies pocket and I'm holding a betting slip with NE -3, I plan to celebrate heavily after this one's over, knowing that SB history is going to have a new name to add. GL all
Let's put it another way, NE has 4 SB rings to ATL's 0. "Matty Ice" has been (previously) money in the bank (for the opposition) in previous P/O scenarios. Tom Brady has 9 SB appearances worth of experience to draw from, "Matty" has 1 (I'm being generous). If you throw out all facts and figures comparing these two teams in this SB and just concentrate on coaching, my $ is on BB, the greatest post season coach in history. If he takes them to the promised land, that gives BB and TB 5 SB rings and that my friends is a record. You don't think there's some incentive for the Patriots in this game? Just on that alone, my $ is safely tucked away in my bookies pocket and I'm holding a betting slip with NE -3, I plan to celebrate heavily after this one's over, knowing that SB history is going to have a new name to add. GL all
because there's no incentive for Atlanta, right?
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Quote Originally Posted by az49erdog:
Let's put it another way, NE has 4 SB rings to ATL's 0. "Matty Ice" has been (previously) money in the bank (for the opposition) in previous P/O scenarios. Tom Brady has 9 SB appearances worth of experience to draw from, "Matty" has 1 (I'm being generous). If you throw out all facts and figures comparing these two teams in this SB and just concentrate on coaching, my $ is on BB, the greatest post season coach in history. If he takes them to the promised land, that gives BB and TB 5 SB rings and that my friends is a record. You don't think there's some incentive for the Patriots in this game? Just on that alone, my $ is safely tucked away in my bookies pocket and I'm holding a betting slip with NE -3, I plan to celebrate heavily after this one's over, knowing that SB history is going to have a new name to add. GL all
Watching the games, it was always obvious to me that Atlanta was a very poor tackling team. Receivers would be able to catch the ball and gain significant yardage afterwards. Apparently this is backed up by the stats, which ranks Atlanta dead last in terms of YAC.
Another sign of a very fraudulent team, in addition to the very poor situational play on both sides of the ball.
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Watching the games, it was always obvious to me that Atlanta was a very poor tackling team. Receivers would be able to catch the ball and gain significant yardage afterwards. Apparently this is backed up by the stats, which ranks Atlanta dead last in terms of YAC.
Another sign of a very fraudulent team, in addition to the very poor situational play on both sides of the ball.
Your analysis is fundamentally flawed because comparing "top 10" opponents is still comparing apples-to-oranges.
NE Top 10 =/= ATL Top 10 in opponent quality. 20% of your sample is Houston Texans, which is simply one of the worst offenses in the league.
Why is only Offense important? They had the 7th ranked defense (according to Football Outsiders the source of your DVOA) and Atlanta has the 27th ranked defense. Are you insinuating offensive rank is more important than defensive rank when it comes to evaluating Super Bowl contenders? History would strongly disagree with you.
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Quote Originally Posted by OStateBucks:
Your analysis is fundamentally flawed because comparing "top 10" opponents is still comparing apples-to-oranges.
NE Top 10 =/= ATL Top 10 in opponent quality. 20% of your sample is Houston Texans, which is simply one of the worst offenses in the league.
Why is only Offense important? They had the 7th ranked defense (according to Football Outsiders the source of your DVOA) and Atlanta has the 27th ranked defense. Are you insinuating offensive rank is more important than defensive rank when it comes to evaluating Super Bowl contenders? History would strongly disagree with you.
Watching the games, it was always obvious to me that Atlanta was a very poor tackling team. Receivers would be able to catch the ball and gain significant yardage afterwards. Apparently this is backed up by the stats, which ranks Atlanta dead last in terms of YAC.
Another sign of a very fraudulent team, in addition to the very poor situational play on both sides of the ball.
They will get blown out by double digits, look forward to the trolls leaving the forum en masse.
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Quote Originally Posted by BrownianMotion:
Watching the games, it was always obvious to me that Atlanta was a very poor tackling team. Receivers would be able to catch the ball and gain significant yardage afterwards. Apparently this is backed up by the stats, which ranks Atlanta dead last in terms of YAC.
Another sign of a very fraudulent team, in addition to the very poor situational play on both sides of the ball.
They will get blown out by double digits, look forward to the trolls leaving the forum en masse.
Your analysis is fundamentally flawed because comparing "top 10" opponents is still comparing apples-to-oranges.
NE Top 10 =/= ATL Top 10 in opponent quality. 20% of your sample is Houston Texans, which is simply one of the worst offenses in the league.
Also Houston made it to the playoffs, I like how you consider them one of the worst teams in the league (you said offense but you insinuated team), that would mean the only strong teams in the NFL are on the NFC. Too bad the pro-bowl showed this to be patently false.
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Quote Originally Posted by OStateBucks:
Your analysis is fundamentally flawed because comparing "top 10" opponents is still comparing apples-to-oranges.
NE Top 10 =/= ATL Top 10 in opponent quality. 20% of your sample is Houston Texans, which is simply one of the worst offenses in the league.
Also Houston made it to the playoffs, I like how you consider them one of the worst teams in the league (you said offense but you insinuated team), that would mean the only strong teams in the NFL are on the NFC. Too bad the pro-bowl showed this to be patently false.
Why you shouldn't ignore strength of schedule when capping a defense.
I looked at 15 past playoff games where:
- Defensive DVOA was substantially lower than scoring defense rank
- To qualify, a team had have a top 10 scoring defense ranking in the regular season & defense DVOA rank at least 7 spots lower (e.g. #7 in scoring defense & #14 in DVOA ranking)
Team Profiles:
- Avg scoring defense rank: 5.5
- Avg defensive DVOA ranking: 14.9
- Avg offense faced by offense DVOA: 9.1
Results
- Avg points allowed in playoff games: 25.9
- Avg ppg allowed in reg season: 18.8
- Avg ppg scored by opp in reg season: 25.8
Defense gave up 7 points more in post-season compared to regular season, while the offense had minimal variance.
When facing a top 5 offense by DVOA:
- Avg scoring defense rank: 5.3
- Avg defensive DVOA ranking: 15.3
- Avg offense faced by offense DVOA: 2.3
Results
- Avg points allowed in playoff games: 24.9
- Avg ppg allowed in reg season: 18.7
- Avg ppg scored by opp in reg season: 26.4
Defense gave up 6 points more in post-season compared to regular season, while the offense scored 2 points less.
There were only 5 games where the defense gave the same or fewer points relative to their regular season average:
Min vs Sea in 2015 (10 points given up in playoff vs 18.9 season avg)
SF vs CAR in 2013 (10 points given up in playoff vs 17.0 season avg)
KS vs Pit in 2016 (18 points given up in playoff vs 19.4 season avg)
Cin vs Pit in 2015 (18 points given up in playoff vs 17.4season avg)
NE vs Ind in 2013 (22 points given up in playoff vs 21.1 season avg)
Reference/Sample Used:
2016 Kansas City
2016 Dallas
2015 Minnesota
2015 Cincinnati
2014 Arizona
2013 San Francisco
2013 New England
2013 Kansas City
2012 Atlanta
2011 Cincinnati
2010 Atlanta
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Why you shouldn't ignore strength of schedule when capping a defense.
I looked at 15 past playoff games where:
- Defensive DVOA was substantially lower than scoring defense rank
- To qualify, a team had have a top 10 scoring defense ranking in the regular season & defense DVOA rank at least 7 spots lower (e.g. #7 in scoring defense & #14 in DVOA ranking)
Team Profiles:
- Avg scoring defense rank: 5.5
- Avg defensive DVOA ranking: 14.9
- Avg offense faced by offense DVOA: 9.1
Results
- Avg points allowed in playoff games: 25.9
- Avg ppg allowed in reg season: 18.8
- Avg ppg scored by opp in reg season: 25.8
Defense gave up 7 points more in post-season compared to regular season, while the offense had minimal variance.
When facing a top 5 offense by DVOA:
- Avg scoring defense rank: 5.3
- Avg defensive DVOA ranking: 15.3
- Avg offense faced by offense DVOA: 2.3
Results
- Avg points allowed in playoff games: 24.9
- Avg ppg allowed in reg season: 18.7
- Avg ppg scored by opp in reg season: 26.4
Defense gave up 6 points more in post-season compared to regular season, while the offense scored 2 points less.
There were only 5 games where the defense gave the same or fewer points relative to their regular season average:
Min vs Sea in 2015 (10 points given up in playoff vs 18.9 season avg)
SF vs CAR in 2013 (10 points given up in playoff vs 17.0 season avg)
KS vs Pit in 2016 (18 points given up in playoff vs 19.4 season avg)
Cin vs Pit in 2015 (18 points given up in playoff vs 17.4season avg)
NE vs Ind in 2013 (22 points given up in playoff vs 21.1 season avg)
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