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    WIZERGUY'S RECORD A FRAUD

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    huskerfan5b
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 6:27 PM ET #1

    So most reputable NFL cappers put units won down, he doesn't.

    I checked through all of his ATS predictions where he didn't buy a hook this year and he's 21-20 (see below). Also, several of those lines seemed pretty questionable (about 20%). I've noticed that for this week for his games with hooks, it's not possible to buy the hooks for the price he has mentioned. At some point, I may go back and reconstruct his units won using the hooks he cited, but that seems pretty pointless if he's making everything up like the juice he's buying.

    He also clearly is a huge teaser and parlay guy, and that seems pretty dumb to me given the added juice. Also, if someone can't get the same juice on a parlay or teaser, they are much less likely to question the poster because they will just assume on those that the juice is much different between sites.

    Long and short, this guy's a big fraud and I'm not sure why so many people in this forum revere him.

    * = Loss
    ^ = Victory

    WEEK 14

    Oakland +3.5*

    WEEK 13

    Jax +4.5*

    WEEK 12

    Eagles - 3*
    Rams +9*
    Arizona+4*
    Bengals+4*
    Kansas City +3.5^

    Week 11

    Saints +3.5^
    NE-11.5^

    Week 10

    Denver +2^
    Arizona -13*

    Week 9

    Denver +1.5*

    Week 8

    Dallas -4^
    San Diego +5.5*
    Bears+4^

    Week 7

    Buffalo - 2.5*

    Week 6

    KC +1^
    Jets+8*

    Week 5

    Philly - 2.5*
    San Diego 4.5^
    VIkings -6^
    Cincinnati -1*
    Cleveland +11*
    Washington +3.5^
    Atlanta +4.5^

    Week 4

    Cleveland +7.5*
    Buffalto +4.5^
    Minnesota -4^
    Jax+ 2.5^
    KC +5*

    Week 3

    Minnesota +7.5^
    Giants -4.5*
    Denver +3.5^
    SF +10*
    Buffalo+4^
    Bears +7*

    Week 2

    Indy+6*


    Week 1

    Chargers +7.5^
    NE+6^
    Miami +10.5^
    Giants PK^


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    So most reputable NFL cappers put units won down, he doesn't.

    I checked through all of his ATS predictions where he didn't buy a hook this year and he's 21-20 (see below). Also, several of those lines seemed pretty questionable (about 20%). I've noticed that for this week for his games with hooks, it's not possible to buy the hooks for the price he has mentioned. At some point, I may go back and reconstruct his units won using the hooks he cited, but that seems pretty pointless if he's making everything up like the juice he's buying.

    He also clearly is a huge teaser and parlay guy, and that seems pretty dumb to me given the added juice. Also, if someone can't get the same juice on a parlay or teaser, they are much less likely to question the poster because they will just assume on those that the juice is much different between sites.

    Long and short, this guy's a big fraud and I'm not sure why so many people in this forum revere him.

    * = Loss
    ^ = Victory

    WEEK 14

    Oakland +3.5*

    WEEK 13

    Jax +4.5*

    WEEK 12

    Eagles - 3*
    Rams +9*
    Arizona+4*
    Bengals+4*
    Kansas City +3.5^

    Week 11

    Saints +3.5^
    NE-11.5^

    Week 10

    Denver +2^
    Arizona -13*

    Week 9

    Denver +1.5*

    Week 8

    Dallas -4^
    San Diego +5.5*
    Bears+4^

    Week 7

    Buffalo - 2.5*

    Week 6

    KC +1^
    Jets+8*

    Week 5

    Philly - 2.5*
    San Diego 4.5^
    VIkings -6^
    Cincinnati -1*
    Cleveland +11*
    Washington +3.5^
    Atlanta +4.5^

    Week 4

    Cleveland +7.5*
    Buffalto +4.5^
    Minnesota -4^
    Jax+ 2.5^
    KC +5*

    Week 3

    Minnesota +7.5^
    Giants -4.5*
    Denver +3.5^
    SF +10*
    Buffalo+4^
    Bears +7*

    Week 2

    Indy+6*


    Week 1

    Chargers +7.5^
    NE+6^
    Miami +10.5^
    Giants PK^


     
    midnightprowl
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 6:47 PM ET #2

    Wow seriously who cares 
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    bpickin
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 7:01 PM ET #3

    Get a life bro
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    Eprince
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 7:08 PM ET #4

    Oh good, now I and the masses can get a good night sleep knowing this..... Spoiler alert: 
    NOBODY CARES!
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    Oh good, now I and the masses can get a good night sleep knowing this..... Spoiler alert: 
    NOBODY CARES!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 7:23 PM ET #5

    To me this is useful info ... there are people who come here looking to make some small changes by tailing. At the least, this will help them. I do not see why this is bad or wrong.



    Every day out of the red is a big win.
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    To me this is useful info ... there are people who come here looking to make some small changes by tailing. At the least, this will help them. I do not see why this is bad or wrong.



     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 7:38 PM ET #6

    I noticed this as well but who am I to call someone out I'm not a algreat capper myself. With that being said Jesus Christ you much have a clear schedule have have a lot of free time to go through his entire postings and record 
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    I noticed this as well but who am I to call someone out I'm not a algreat capper myself. With that being said Jesus Christ you much have a clear schedule have have a lot of free time to go through his entire postings and record 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:14 PM ET #7

    Wizerguy said you only pay when they lose (meaning the book...wow what a bunch of donk's on this site)
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    Wizerguy said you only pay when they lose (meaning the book...wow what a bunch of donk's on this site)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:25 PM ET #8

    I don't understand the random dissonance here. Thanks for taking the time, this guy is obviously an unstable fraud who needs to bolster his ego with false results. 

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    I don't understand the random dissonance here. Thanks for taking the time, this guy is obviously an unstable fraud who needs to bolster his ego with false results. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:28 PM ET #9

    Wizerguy is paying a premium on a lot of his picks (example NO +3.5)...You can't get this line currently....If he loses, he loses his wager no matter how big...are you following...He's already paid up front in other words...I'm from Canada and we don't need Bookies we bet on-line. Very said that Guys in the US can't do his legally. If you could bet on-line then you wouldn't post dumb threads....You would understand the "juice" concept better
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    Wizerguy is paying a premium on a lot of his picks (example NO +3.5)...You can't get this line currently....If he loses, he loses his wager no matter how big...are you following...He's already paid up front in other words...I'm from Canada and we don't need Bookies we bet on-line. Very said that Guys in the US can't do his legally. If you could bet on-line then you wouldn't post dumb threads....You would understand the "juice" concept better
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:45 PM ET #10

    Americans do bet online, you sound like an idiot.
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    Americans do bet online, you sound like an idiot.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:50 PM ET #11

    What on-line gambling sites do Americans use without breaking US laws...please elaborate
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    What on-line gambling sites do Americans use without breaking US laws...please elaborate
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:52 PM ET #12

    Sorry, sports betting on-line sites that are legally allowed in the US
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    Sorry, sports betting on-line sites that are legally allowed in the US
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:57 PM ET #13

                
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    What on-line gambling sites do Americans use without breaking US laws...please elaborate
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 9:19 PM ET #14

    Wow man. Cap a game or two. Wizerguy doesn't need me to defend him. So I wont comment on that.

    The feds in the US would probably say that Canada is funding terrorism and criminal organizations overseas with this online gambling concept you speak of Bunny.
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    Wow man. Cap a game or two. Wizerguy doesn't need me to defend him. So I wont comment on that.

    The feds in the US would probably say that Canada is funding terrorism and criminal organizations overseas with this online gambling concept you speak of Bunny.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 9:21 PM ET #15

    Atlantic City you can play every track going...no sports...Vegas...Both sports and Ponies...Am I missing anything?...I don't understand that laughing last response
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    Atlantic City you can play every track going...no sports...Vegas...Both sports and Ponies...Am I missing anything?...I don't understand that laughing last response
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 9:28 PM ET #16

    I'm just defending Wizerguy...Numbertheory is a prime example of what's wrong in the USA right now. Still a great Country..It will always be great despite the Orange New York Democrat that will be your next President
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    I'm just defending Wizerguy...Numbertheory is a prime example of what's wrong in the USA right now. Still a great Country..It will always be great despite the Orange New York Democrat that will be your next President
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 10:09 PM ET #17

    So you been tailing WizerGuy & loss some plays but takes the time to start a useless thread to badger him as a Fraud?

    Seriously? ....  get a life dude 
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    So you been tailing WizerGuy & loss some plays but takes the time to start a useless thread to badger him as a Fraud?

    Seriously? ....  get a life dude 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 10:20 PM ET #18

    Or you're suspicious and decide to check on a guy's record. Very simple detective work. By the time you go three or four posts back, you see a pattern emerging. 

    Some people care about integrity, obviously Wizerguy doesn't, if you're ok with that, so be it. I'm not and I'm glad there are people here to call posters on their bs. 
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    Or you're suspicious and decide to check on a guy's record. Very simple detective work. By the time you go three or four posts back, you see a pattern emerging. 

    Some people care about integrity, obviously Wizerguy doesn't, if you're ok with that, so be it. I'm not and I'm glad there are people here to call posters on their bs. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 10:46 PM ET #19

    Banging since 1983
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2016 - 12:19 AM ET #20

    notice how the veterans and Captains come to his rescue. Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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    notice how the veterans and Captains come to his rescue. Hmmmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2016 - 12:47 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny24:

    I'm just defending Wizerguy...Numbertheory is a prime example of what's wrong in the USA right now. Still a great Country..It will always be great despite the Orange New York Democrat that will be your next President

    Look man, if you can't read English very well, read my post again and see if you want to make that comment again. Don't presume to think you know what my political disposition is and what sort of citizen I am. That is a losing proposition.

    Everyone is laughing because of your ignorance. I won't get into gaming law here but it is potentially a felony under certain circumstances in the United States. A felony charge can ruin your life. Try bringing a product from a country that is under trade embargo into the United States and see what sort of welcome you get at customs if you show them what you have. The law is no joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny24:

    I'm just defending Wizerguy...Numbertheory is a prime example of what's wrong in the USA right now. Still a great Country..It will always be great despite the Orange New York Democrat that will be your next President

    Look man, if you can't read English very well, read my post again and see if you want to make that comment again. Don't presume to think you know what my political disposition is and what sort of citizen I am. That is a losing proposition.

    Everyone is laughing because of your ignorance. I won't get into gaming law here but it is potentially a felony under certain circumstances in the United States. A felony charge can ruin your life. Try bringing a product from a country that is under trade embargo into the United States and see what sort of welcome you get at customs if you show them what you have. The law is no joke.
     
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    How long did this take? The big issue with all of this is what brought you to check his history? Are you tailing and losing? Are you jealous? Are you bored? I bet if you did this with the majority of people on here, you may find a few games here and there that don't add up. This is exactly why I don't post every swinging play in here. I bet games every Sunday but I'm not gonna post those records. If you wanna tail me when I play, great. If you don't, fine. I'm not here for a popularity award or for "best capper with integrity" award. I have nothing to hide nor do I care wat others think about my abilities. The bank account does the talking.....in wizerguys case, I've been following enough every week seein his plays to know if he is legit or not. From my experience, he seems pretty legit. Move on. It's yours right to tail or fade. I wish I had the free time some do in here. 
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    How long did this take? The big issue with all of this is what brought you to check his history? Are you tailing and losing? Are you jealous? Are you bored? I bet if you did this with the majority of people on here, you may find a few games here and there that don't add up. This is exactly why I don't post every swinging play in here. I bet games every Sunday but I'm not gonna post those records. If you wanna tail me when I play, great. If you don't, fine. I'm not here for a popularity award or for "best capper with integrity" award. I have nothing to hide nor do I care wat others think about my abilities. The bank account does the talking.....in wizerguys case, I've been following enough every week seein his plays to know if he is legit or not. From my experience, he seems pretty legit. Move on. It's yours right to tail or fade. I wish I had the free time some do in here. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2016 - 11:21 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    How long did this take? The big issue with all of this is what brought you to check his history? Are you tailing and losing? Are you jealous? Are you bored? I bet if you did this with the majority of people on here, you may find a few games here and there that don't add up. This is exactly why I don't post every swinging play in here. I bet games every Sunday but I'm not gonna post those records. If you wanna tail me when I play, great. If you don't, fine. I'm not here for a popularity award or for "best capper with integrity" award. I have nothing to hide nor do I care wat others think about my abilities. The bank account does the talking.....in wizerguys case, I've been following enough every week seein his plays to know if he is legit or not. From my experience, he seems pretty legit. Move on. It's yours right to tail or fade. I wish I had the free time some do in here. 

    Well said Achilles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    How long did this take? The big issue with all of this is what brought you to check his history? Are you tailing and losing? Are you jealous? Are you bored? I bet if you did this with the majority of people on here, you may find a few games here and there that don't add up. This is exactly why I don't post every swinging play in here. I bet games every Sunday but I'm not gonna post those records. If you wanna tail me when I play, great. If you don't, fine. I'm not here for a popularity award or for "best capper with integrity" award. I have nothing to hide nor do I care wat others think about my abilities. The bank account does the talking.....in wizerguys case, I've been following enough every week seein his plays to know if he is legit or not. From my experience, he seems pretty legit. Move on. It's yours right to tail or fade. I wish I had the free time some do in here. 

    Well said Achilles
     
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    I am using Covers King of Covers contest to keep track of my record. I dont bet every game I pick on the contest, but a select few I do.  

    I also bet LIVE and there is no way to track that. I love to bet LIVE. I hit a 2/3 on those. Well, so far.

    The thing with betting live is picking your spots. 

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    I am using Covers King of Covers contest to keep track of my record. I dont bet every game I pick on the contest, but a select few I do.  

    I also bet LIVE and there is no way to track that. I love to bet LIVE. I hit a 2/3 on those. Well, so far.

    The thing with betting live is picking your spots. 

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2016 - 1:42 PM ET #25

    I find it inspiring how defensive of a liar people can be. Also, how accusatory of a detective. 

    The answer is obvious: lie through your teeth and fools will follow. Or at the very least defend you. 
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    I find it inspiring how defensive of a liar people can be. Also, how accusatory of a detective. 

    The answer is obvious: lie through your teeth and fools will follow. Or at the very least defend you. 
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