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"The Redskins held a late-afternoon walkthrough Monday and listed 17 players -- nearly one-third of the roster -- on the injury report."
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27:

Giants could win and or cover.  But I strongly disagree with your opinion of cousins.  I think he is a major upgrade.  RG was not a good qb.  


Agreed. Giants points are valid but the Cousins bashing is really silly.
 
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They just dropped 30 points against the Texans.

Eli had a QB rating of 78.7 and their RBs rushed for 193 yards.  

Total mess.  

That was predictable.  Houston came into the game dead last against the run in ypc and they left the game dead last against the run in ypc.

 
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Agreed. Giants points are valid but the Cousins bashing is really silly.

Cousins isn't a good QB.  Saying he's an upgrade over RG3 is completely ridiculous.  You guys will learn soon.  It's a shame it will take you guys to lose money before you do.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22:

That was predictable.  Houston came into the game dead last against the run in ypc and they left the game dead last against the run in ypc.


So, you bet huge on the Giants?  Doubt it.
 
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Again, the Redskins gave up 103 to Foster, then faced the JAGUARS, and then faced the Eagles, missing most of their offensive line for the entire game.  

And only gave up 3.8 ypc.  Lets say we dismiss everyone else that has carried the ball against them and take that one instance...that would still put them in the top 10 in ypc. 

Jaguars are a mess agreed.

Eagles game it had more to do with the Skins being geeked up to stop McCoy and the running game than it had to do with the offensive line being overmatched.  In each of the Eagles 3 games teams have been looking to stop the Eagles run game first as evidenced by how many times Foles has been dropping back.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


Cousins isn't a good QB.  Saying he's an upgrade over RG3 is completely ridiculous.  You guys will learn soon.  It's a shame it will take you guys to lose money before you do.

Well I'm 1-0 riding cousins so far.  So we will see.  Wait actually 2-0. I took the over too. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:

Quote Originally Posted by rr207:

Shango unchained...but this is a dumb angle. How are the giants going to win this game? 
What does that even mean?They're going to run the football well like they did last week, Eli will make big plays against a banged up Wash D, and Kirk Cousins will throw several INTs.  Giants will win this game by 10+.


You cant be serious, 10 points? When did nyg d get so good? Eli is a step above chad henne since last year. Giants won't be able to keep up with the redskins. Don't forget Houston didn't have foster last week who was huge against Washington who also started rg3 who should have been the back up. You can't compare a game to last year when a new head coach and system are involved
 
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Papa ......think about this 

Vegas opened the line -6 Redskins 

(DO you think they are dumb?) 


NY have lined up to take that spread ..... I don't care what sites you say show the betting % it is in accurate 

for you to believe what you see on a web-site is non sense 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


So, you bet huge on the Giants?  Doubt it.

I did take the Giants actually.  Not huge because Eli is perfectly capable of ruining a good wager.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22:

And only gave up 3.8 ypc.  Lets say we dismiss everyone else that has carried the ball against them and take that one instance...that would still put them in the top 10 in ypc. 

Jaguars are a mess agreed.

Eagles game it had more to do with the Skins being geeked up to stop McCoy and the running game than it had to do with the offensive line being overmatched.  In each of the Eagles 3 games teams have been looking to stop the Eagles run game first as evidenced by how many times Foles has been dropping back.


Eagles offensive line is a mess.  They were already missing Lane Johnson and Mathis, and then Kelce got hurt.  It's hard to run the ball when you don't have 3/5 of your line and backups were also hurt.
 
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Papa ......think about this 

Vegas opened the line -6 Redskins 

(DO you think they are dumb?) 


NY have lined up to take that spread ..... I don't care what sites you say show the betting % it is in accurate 

for you to believe what you see on a web-site is non sense 

You are literally retarded.  
 
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Yes, the books made a mistake if they opened the line at -6 and bettors probably did bet the Giants at that price, but when it dropped, they pounded the Redskins and are continuing to do so.  
 
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Washington came out of Sunday's 37-34 loss at Philadelphia as a very banged-up club with cornerback DeAngelo Hall (ruptured left Achilles) and safety Duke Ihenacho (broken left foot) lost for the season. Linebackers Brian Orakpo (left middle finger) and Jason Hatcher(hamstring) and guard Shawn Lauvao (right knee) are also hurting.

"We're losing guys left and right," Orakpo said. "Football's a tough game. Look, if you've got kids and can't stand injuries, don't let 'em play football."

The Redskins held a late-afternoon walkthrough Monday and listed 17 players -- nearly one-third of the roster -- on the injury report.

"Obviously this is a week that I would rather not have a Thursday night game," first-year coach Jay Gruden said.

And literally the only player that will be MIA is Hall that is a blow I agree.  The Giants aren't the team to exploit that matchup though.

And before you say Reed is out...he's been out the last 2 weeks so what?  If you think this is a devastating blow you clearly haven't been watching what Niles Paul has been doing.  Just imagine when Reed gets back and they can put both of them on the field together.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22:

And literally the only player that will be MIA is Hall that is a blow I agree.  The Giants aren't the team to exploit that matchup though.

And before you say Reed is out...he's been out the last 2 weeks so what?  If you think this is a devastating blow you clearly haven't been watching what Niles Paul has been doing.  Just imagine when Reed gets back and they can put both of them on the field together.


None of these guys matter, but Hall?  Okay.

Listed as “limited” were players Coach Jay Gruden said were still being evaluated and considered day-to-day: Defensive lineman Chris Baker (ankle, hip), defensive end Kedric Golston (groin), defensive end Jason Hatcher (hamstring), wide receiver DeSean Jackson (shoulder sprain), linebacker Akeem Jordan (knee), defensive end Frank Kearse (ankle), left guard Shawn Lauvao (knee), center Kory Lichtensteiger (groin, rib, hip), linebacker Brian Orakpo, cornerback Tracy Porter (hamstring) and safety Trenton Robinson (abdomen).
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


Cousins isn't a good QB.  Saying he's an upgrade over RG3 is completely ridiculous.  You guys will learn soon.  It's a shame it will take you guys to lose money before you do.
Saying Cousins laying 3.5 at home to a Giants team that has only beat a very flawed Texans team at home is crazy,  is also ridiculous.    What did you think the line would be?
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


Eagles offensive line is a mess.  They were already missing Lane Johnson and Mathis, and then Kelce got hurt.  It's hard to run the ball when you don't have 3/5 of your line and backups were also hurt.

I'm well aware that their offensive line is pieced together.  That said, the Eagles were going to have a hard time running the ball even if they had all 5 because the Redskins are a good run defense and they game planned to stop the run.  They were also struggling to run before Kelce went down.  The injuries on the oline hurt them a helluva lot more in pass protection than running the ball.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


You are literally retarded.  


You actually may be if you believe the garbage you see on a web-site lol 

You have been baited and baited really bad for some reason 


I guess it is your negativity ......Your trapped in a negative matrix 
 
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Klece got hurt in the 2nd half and mccoy still had no yards, he was locked up all game abd deangalo wasnt locking him up by himself. Show me today's practice report, of course Monday the day after a gm players will be banged up
 
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Baker, Starting NT
Golston, Backup DE
Hatcher, Starting DE
Jackson, Starting WR
Jordan, Backup LB
Kearse, Hatcher's backup
Lauvao, Starting LG
Lichtensteiger, Starting C
Orakpo, Starting LB
Porter, Starting CB
Robinson, Backup Safety

Right, none of those matter.  Sorry for my mistake.  
 
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i agree 100% with you papa

imo i think cousins is an upgrade over rgknee and fits better in grudens system..however i dont think he can carry the team to victory on a short week with a weak behind defense...

i swear mad ppl are high on cousins just cuz of what they saw against the jags and eagles. did people forget redskins were 3-13 last year!?!?!? and even tho cousins didn't start the whole year..he did start a good chunk of those games and i dont think he won too many. giants are going to own redskins o line. even tho giants may seem like they got a couple of problems of their own...this is sucha great spot for them to get the W this thursday especially considering the state of redskins D right now. giants (on paper) are not a bad team. and they upgraded their secondary...they beat redskins twice last year and these are pretty much the same teams.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:


None of these guys matter, but Hall?  Okay.

Listed as “limited” were players Coach Jay Gruden said were still being evaluated and considered day-to-day: Defensive lineman Chris Baker (ankle, hip), defensive end Kedric Golston (groin), defensive end Jason Hatcher (hamstring), wide receiver DeSean Jackson (shoulder sprain), linebacker Akeem Jordan (knee), defensive end Frank Kearse (ankle), left guard Shawn Lauvao (knee), center Kory Lichtensteiger (groin, rib, hip), linebacker Brian Orakpo, cornerback Tracy Porter (hamstring) and safety Trenton Robinson (abdomen).

The rest of them are likely to play which is the point.  Every team in the NFL is going to have a long injury report at this point.  There is a difference between injured and hurt...I'm sure you know this.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CasperX22:

I'm well aware that their offensive line is pieced together.  That said, the Eagles were going to have a hard time running the ball even if they had all 5 because the Redskins are a good run defense and they game planned to stop the run.  They were also struggling to run before Kelce went down.  The injuries on the oline hurt them a helluva lot more in pass protection than running the ball.


Eagles only ran for 389 yards in 2 games against the Redskins last year.  
 
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Klece got hurt in the 2nd half and mccoy still had no yards, he was locked up all game abd deangalo wasnt locking him up by himself. Show me today's practice report, of course Monday the day after a gm players will be banged up

Eagles didn't even run an offensive play until there were 2 min left in the 1st quarter.  They had 4 rushes for 30 yards before Kelce got hurt.  
 
 
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are you guys retarded!?!?! "show me todays practice report" ???? omg yo..the people on this site...smh 

DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH

if u dont know what ur talkin bout..why speak at all? even if redskins defense was healthy..THEY STILL TRASH. d hall's injury is big only to redskins fans LOL ...hes not even that great anymore but he was their best player. 

this is just a bad spot for the redskins in my opinion. 

NFC east division games are always tough to cap. anything can happen in those games..
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