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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2007 - 12:51 AM ET #1

    YTD: 74-50  +24.0u
     
    Melbourne v Adelaide over 195.5  1u
    Nothing really takes my fancy tonight but i decided to have a ping.
     
    Melbourne's offence looked better against souths even though it was only firing on about half its cylinders. The give the ball to Anstey plan worked well as he dominated. Barlow and Croswell also were playing well. Lampley looked like he will be a valuable addition scoring 10 in what seemed like limited minutes.
     
    However, Corletto, Hoare and Mcdonald had shockers. Corletto shot 1/9, Mcdoanld 1/6 and Hoare 3/12. Alot of these were open 3 point shots, particularly in Corletto's case, which they usually hit a pretty high percentage. Even after a poor performance Hoare is second in the league in 2p% and 3rd in 3p%.
     
    So if these guys had hit some shots Melbourne could have scored around 120 rather than 98. I think their is a reasonable chance these guys will shoot better, plus Lamley should be more with the programand he looks like a scoring machine.
     
    Other factors that support the bet:
    - Adelaide have been playing at a faster tempo and putting up higher scores lately
    - Lanard Copeland's is having his melbourne number retired so the game may be played in his style - get the ball and jack it up quick
     
     
    I have a question maybe someone can answer. The new NBA boxscores include a category BA, anyone know what this stands for?
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    YTD: 74-50  +24.0u
     
    Melbourne v Adelaide over 195.5  1u
    Nothing really takes my fancy tonight but i decided to have a ping.
     
    Melbourne's offence looked better against souths even though it was only firing on about half its cylinders. The give the ball to Anstey plan worked well as he dominated. Barlow and Croswell also were playing well. Lampley looked like he will be a valuable addition scoring 10 in what seemed like limited minutes.
     
    However, Corletto, Hoare and Mcdonald had shockers. Corletto shot 1/9, Mcdoanld 1/6 and Hoare 3/12. Alot of these were open 3 point shots, particularly in Corletto's case, which they usually hit a pretty high percentage. Even after a poor performance Hoare is second in the league in 2p% and 3rd in 3p%.
     
    So if these guys had hit some shots Melbourne could have scored around 120 rather than 98. I think their is a reasonable chance these guys will shoot better, plus Lamley should be more with the programand he looks like a scoring machine.
     
    Other factors that support the bet:
    - Adelaide have been playing at a faster tempo and putting up higher scores lately
    - Lanard Copeland's is having his melbourne number retired so the game may be played in his style - get the ball and jack it up quick
     
     
    I have a question maybe someone can answer. The new NBA boxscores include a category BA, anyone know what this stands for?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    YTD: 74-50  +24.0u
     
    Melbourne v Adelaide over 195.5  1u
    Nothing really takes my fancy tonight but i decided to have a ping.
     
    Melbourne's offence looked better against souths even though it was only firing on about half its cylinders. The give the ball to Anstey plan worked well as he dominated. Barlow and Croswell also were playing well. Lampley looked like he will be a valuable addition scoring 10 in what seemed like limited minutes.
     
    However, Corletto, Hoare and Mcdonald had shockers. Corletto shot 1/9, Mcdoanld 1/6 and Hoare 3/12. Alot of these were open 3 point shots, particularly in Corletto's case, which they usually hit a pretty high percentage. Even after a poor performance Hoare is second in the league in 2p% and 3rd in 3p%.
     
    So if these guys had hit some shots Melbourne could have scored around 120 rather than 98. I think their is a reasonable chance these guys will shoot better, plus Lamley should be more with the programand he looks like a scoring machine.
     
    Other factors that support the bet:
    - Adelaide have been playing at a faster tempo and putting up higher scores lately
    - Lanard Copeland's is having his melbourne number retired so the game may be played in his style - get the ball and jack it up quick
     
     
    I have a question maybe someone can answer. The new NBA boxscores include a category BA, anyone know what this stands for?


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    YTD: 74-50  +24.0u
     
    Melbourne v Adelaide over 195.5  1u
    Nothing really takes my fancy tonight but i decided to have a ping.
     
    Melbourne's offence looked better against souths even though it was only firing on about half its cylinders. The give the ball to Anstey plan worked well as he dominated. Barlow and Croswell also were playing well. Lampley looked like he will be a valuable addition scoring 10 in what seemed like limited minutes.
     
    However, Corletto, Hoare and Mcdonald had shockers. Corletto shot 1/9, Mcdoanld 1/6 and Hoare 3/12. Alot of these were open 3 point shots, particularly in Corletto's case, which they usually hit a pretty high percentage. Even after a poor performance Hoare is second in the league in 2p% and 3rd in 3p%.
     
    So if these guys had hit some shots Melbourne could have scored around 120 rather than 98. I think their is a reasonable chance these guys will shoot better, plus Lamley should be more with the programand he looks like a scoring machine.
     
    Other factors that support the bet:
    - Adelaide have been playing at a faster tempo and putting up higher scores lately
    - Lanard Copeland's is having his melbourne number retired so the game may be played in his style - get the ball and jack it up quick
     
     
    I have a question maybe someone can answer. The new NBA boxscores include a category BA, anyone know what this stands for?


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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2007 - 1:00 AM ET #3

    One the other side by the way, at least one of us will go away happy.


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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2007 - 1:36 AM ET #4

    I'll take of a bite of the 1 unit OVER.
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2007 - 2:13 AM ET #5

    thanks ridds.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2007 - 3:07 PM ET #6

    YTD: 75-50  +24.9u
     
    In the Slingers v Razorbacks game of all players only two managed to shoot better than 40% from the field, two bench guys for singapore who took limited shots. i find it a bit confounding that the shooting is so poor in so many games.
     
    Wollongong +11.5  2u
    During the Reyes era Wollongong went 1-6-1 against the spread. The only cover by my records was his last game when they beat a freefalling singapore. From accounts he was an idiot who wasn't interested in playing. In games without him this season Wollongong are 7-2 against the spread. In their last game they lost to league leader sydney in sydney by 9.
     
    NZ have played four games without Rickert. Their results are:
    -25, 3, -20 and -32
     
    The beat souths at home by 3. Souths have only beaten singapore at home in their last 6 games.
     
    NZs new imports are likely to improve. Green had impressive numbers in his second game against Brisbane: 22pts, 7R, 2A, 1B and 3S. If Penny, Green and Jones play well that may be enough to beat Wollongong handily.
     
    Based on form over the whole season, ignoring which players are playing, my suggestion would be that NZ should be favoured by around 6. Based on form over the last five games my suggestion would be NZ should be favoured by 2.5. You could adjust these for NZ now having two imports with some experience. But you could also adjust it on my suggestion that wollongong play better without reyes. 
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    In the Slingers v Razorbacks game of all players only two managed to shoot better than 40% from the field, two bench guys for singapore who took limited shots. i find it a bit confounding that the shooting is so poor in so many games.
     
    Wollongong +11.5  2u
    During the Reyes era Wollongong went 1-6-1 against the spread. The only cover by my records was his last game when they beat a freefalling singapore. From accounts he was an idiot who wasn't interested in playing. In games without him this season Wollongong are 7-2 against the spread. In their last game they lost to league leader sydney in sydney by 9.
     
    NZ have played four games without Rickert. Their results are:
    -25, 3, -20 and -32
     
    The beat souths at home by 3. Souths have only beaten singapore at home in their last 6 games.
     
    NZs new imports are likely to improve. Green had impressive numbers in his second game against Brisbane: 22pts, 7R, 2A, 1B and 3S. If Penny, Green and Jones play well that may be enough to beat Wollongong handily.
     
    Based on form over the whole season, ignoring which players are playing, my suggestion would be that NZ should be favoured by around 6. Based on form over the last five games my suggestion would be NZ should be favoured by 2.5. You could adjust these for NZ now having two imports with some experience. But you could also adjust it on my suggestion that wollongong play better without reyes. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2007 - 5:47 PM ET #7

    YTD: 76-50  +26.7u
     
    Cairns -15.5 1u
    Cairns v Singapore under 199.5 1u
    Singapore are 0-11 on the road and have only kept one of these losses to less than double figures. This will be their third game in seven days after losing in Adelaide by 27 on saturday they flew back to Singapore to get beaten by West Sydney by 14 on wednesday night. Two nights later they are back in Australia.
     
    Cairns seem to be clicking even though they rarely field the same line up. Vale who was recently added to the squad had a handy 12 points at 50% last game and the new import should play tonight. Grabau and Abney have generally been playing better in recent games after slow starts to the season, Jawai looks like he would be a force in the NBA to me.
     
    Singapore look like they have had more than enough for the season and i cant see them firing up for this one. Cairns on the other hand are looking very deep even without Darnell Mee and I can't see players taking it easy as competition for court time should be fairly fierce.
     
    According to my calculations Cairns offence has improved and in recent games has been about as efficient as any team. However, even in their two games against west sydney they play a slow tempo keeping the score down to 191 and 197. Think the total is a little high.
     
     
     
     
     
    In the fourth quarter in the game last night super coach lemanis plays a line up that includes Henare, very limited offence, Vukona, limited offence, and Foreman can't do much more than hit open 3s, for alot of the time and they score 16 for the quarter and nearly get run over. I also cannot understand how little court time Jones gets. They would be very small if they played Jones instead of Foreman but i think the benefit on offence would outweigh the loss on defence.
     
     
     
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    Cairns -15.5 1u
    Cairns v Singapore under 199.5 1u
    Singapore are 0-11 on the road and have only kept one of these losses to less than double figures. This will be their third game in seven days after losing in Adelaide by 27 on saturday they flew back to Singapore to get beaten by West Sydney by 14 on wednesday night. Two nights later they are back in Australia.
     
    Cairns seem to be clicking even though they rarely field the same line up. Vale who was recently added to the squad had a handy 12 points at 50% last game and the new import should play tonight. Grabau and Abney have generally been playing better in recent games after slow starts to the season, Jawai looks like he would be a force in the NBA to me.
     
    Singapore look like they have had more than enough for the season and i cant see them firing up for this one. Cairns on the other hand are looking very deep even without Darnell Mee and I can't see players taking it easy as competition for court time should be fairly fierce.
     
    According to my calculations Cairns offence has improved and in recent games has been about as efficient as any team. However, even in their two games against west sydney they play a slow tempo keeping the score down to 191 and 197. Think the total is a little high.
     
     
     
     
     
    In the fourth quarter in the game last night super coach lemanis plays a line up that includes Henare, very limited offence, Vukona, limited offence, and Foreman can't do much more than hit open 3s, for alot of the time and they score 16 for the quarter and nearly get run over. I also cannot understand how little court time Jones gets. They would be very small if they played Jones instead of Foreman but i think the benefit on offence would outweigh the loss on defence.
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2007 - 6:10 PM ET #8

    Another 2 in the win column
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    YTD: 77-51  +26.6u
     
    Nothing really stands out to me tonight but I played these:
     
    Wollongong +13  1u
    Brisbane -4.5  1u
    Brisbane v Melbourne under 210.5  1u
    Adelaide +4  1u
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    YTD: 77-51  +26.6u
     
    Nothing really stands out to me tonight but I played these:
     
    Wollongong +13  1u
    Brisbane -4.5  1u
    Brisbane v Melbourne under 210.5  1u
    Adelaide +4  1u
     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2007 - 6:03 PM ET #10

    I love that record of your Binomial
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    Adding:
    Gold Coast -12  1u
     
    Also stuipid enough to go against tantric's pow. Just waiting to see if the line goes any higher.
     
    My feeling is that the mindset of both teams will be different to the previous game. At the time WS thought they need to get back to a frantic tempo to be successful like thye were at the start of the season. This has not proven to be the case the only team they have been able to beat in recent weeks in singapore. it may soon dawn on the pigs that you have to play decent defence to beat teams.
     
    At the time of this game adelaide's super coach smythe appeared to be of the opinion that they didn't have a great chance of winning games so they should try running around jacking up quick shots to entertain the crowd. Adelaide's willingness to swap imports suggests to me they believe they have a reasonable chance of making the playoffs, so I think their priority will be winning the game rather than entertaining the crowd. Given the game is at the pigpen there won't be any crowd to entertain anyway.
     
    So rather than a loosey goosey muck around, i think this could be a rather tense affair between two teams pretending to believe they can make the playoffs
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    Also stuipid enough to go against tantric's pow. Just waiting to see if the line goes any higher.
     
    My feeling is that the mindset of both teams will be different to the previous game. At the time WS thought they need to get back to a frantic tempo to be successful like thye were at the start of the season. This has not proven to be the case the only team they have been able to beat in recent weeks in singapore. it may soon dawn on the pigs that you have to play decent defence to beat teams.
     
    At the time of this game adelaide's super coach smythe appeared to be of the opinion that they didn't have a great chance of winning games so they should try running around jacking up quick shots to entertain the crowd. Adelaide's willingness to swap imports suggests to me they believe they have a reasonable chance of making the playoffs, so I think their priority will be winning the game rather than entertaining the crowd. Given the game is at the pigpen there won't be any crowd to entertain anyway.
     
    So rather than a loosey goosey muck around, i think this could be a rather tense affair between two teams pretending to believe they can make the playoffs
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2007 - 3:22 AM ET #12

    BOL binomial.....surprised you're not on the under in the Blaze game. Though I could understand the logic behind fading the the worst road team after pulling off a massive upset. Stingers starters logged 30+ minutes last night and will not have enough gas left in the tank to compete against the Blaze who can simply name the scoreline
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    BOL binomial.....surprised you're not on the under in the Blaze game. Though I could understand the logic behind fading the the worst road team after pulling off a massive upset. Stingers starters logged 30+ minutes last night and will not have enough gas left in the tank to compete against the Blaze who can simply name the scoreline
     
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    BOL to you to DPLAY.
     
    In relation to GC my theory is that early on their offence was poor. The tempo was a bit below average but it was more so that they were not putting the ball in the hole enough. I reckon they have improved continually and are now one of the best offences in the league - Brisbane ,Sydney then GC over last five games for best offence by my numbers.
     
    Also GC could try and push the tempo to try and tire Singapore out. Wouldn't be suprised if it went over 200.
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    BOL to you to DPLAY.
     
    In relation to GC my theory is that early on their offence was poor. The tempo was a bit below average but it was more so that they were not putting the ball in the hole enough. I reckon they have improved continually and are now one of the best offences in the league - Brisbane ,Sydney then GC over last five games for best offence by my numbers.
     
    Also GC could try and push the tempo to try and tire Singapore out. Wouldn't be suprised if it went over 200.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2007 - 3:31 AM ET #14

    Got:
    West Sydney v Adelaide under 211.5  $2.06  1u
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    West Sydney v Adelaide under 211.5  $2.06  1u
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2007 - 3:40 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    BOL to you to DPLAY.
     
    In relation to GC my theory is that early on their offence was poor. The tempo was a bit below average but it was more so that they were not putting the ball in the hole enough. I reckon they have improved continually and are now one of the best offences in the league - Brisbane ,Sydney then GC over last five games for best offence by my numbers.
     
    Also GC could try and push the tempo to try and tire Singapore out. Wouldn't be suprised if it went over 200.

    Agreed with your theory but with the blowout factor most likely, I just think that the number is somewhat inflated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binomial:

    BOL to you to DPLAY.
     
    In relation to GC my theory is that early on their offence was poor. The tempo was a bit below average but it was more so that they were not putting the ball in the hole enough. I reckon they have improved continually and are now one of the best offences in the league - Brisbane ,Sydney then GC over last five games for best offence by my numbers.
     
    Also GC could try and push the tempo to try and tire Singapore out. Wouldn't be suprised if it went over 200.

    Agreed with your theory but with the blowout factor most likely, I just think that the number is somewhat inflated.

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