the fact that you and rostos agree makes me think I am 100% correct So its a womans fault if the guy doesn't wear a condom? Got it Guys everywhere are celebrating. Back where I am from they are partying in the prisons tonight. All responsibility absolved.
If your sister gets pregnant and the bloke walks away and denies everything, and she is left all alone in the situation I'll lay any price you want that you won't blame her and you would want to cut the guys balls off
It's 2010 where I am. Look me up when you and rostos jump in the time machine and arrive here from the 1960's
If this was your daughter or sister your viewpoints would turn 180 degrees. But the 2 people on here more blinded by media opinion then any others are the 2 that have bought the AFL/St Kilda/Herald Sun PR spin hook, line and sinker. What was I saying about brainwashed Victorians?
this
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Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
the fact that you and rostos agree makes me think I am 100% correct So its a womans fault if the guy doesn't wear a condom? Got it Guys everywhere are celebrating. Back where I am from they are partying in the prisons tonight. All responsibility absolved.
If your sister gets pregnant and the bloke walks away and denies everything, and she is left all alone in the situation I'll lay any price you want that you won't blame her and you would want to cut the guys balls off
It's 2010 where I am. Look me up when you and rostos jump in the time machine and arrive here from the 1960's
If this was your daughter or sister your viewpoints would turn 180 degrees. But the 2 people on here more blinded by media opinion then any others are the 2 that have bought the AFL/St Kilda/Herald Sun PR spin hook, line and sinker. What was I saying about brainwashed Victorians?
I'm saying that the girl is as much guilty as the AFL players are.
She wanted group sex. She got group sex. She didn't tell them to wear a condom. They didn't wear a condom. They blew in her. They buggered off. They wanted nothing to do with her as they got what they wanted. She got pregnant. They still wanted nothing to do with her. She gave birth to a stillborn. They didn't show her attention. She released pictures to get revenge on them.
Pretty black and white situation right there. Both parties are guilty and I can't believe people think she's innocent in this. She's as much to blame as anyone.
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We're not saying the footballer is innocent.
I'm saying that the girl is as much guilty as the AFL players are.
She wanted group sex. She got group sex. She didn't tell them to wear a condom. They didn't wear a condom. They blew in her. They buggered off. They wanted nothing to do with her as they got what they wanted. She got pregnant. They still wanted nothing to do with her. She gave birth to a stillborn. They didn't show her attention. She released pictures to get revenge on them.
Pretty black and white situation right there. Both parties are guilty and I can't believe people think she's innocent in this. She's as much to blame as anyone.
So its a womans fault if the guy doesn't wear a condom? Got it
Half/half. She is to blame as they are. She knew the risks. She learnt about sex ed in primary school and high school. She was probably sexually active at 11 like half the girls in the world are.
Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
If your sister gets pregnant and the bloke walks away and denies everything, and she is left all alone in the situation I'll lay any price you want that you won't blame her and you would want to cut the guys balls off
No, not at all. I always look at both sides of the story. Not one.
Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
If this was your daughter or sister your viewpoints would turn 180 degrees. But the 2 people on here more blinded by media opinion then any others are the 2 that have bought the AFL/St Kilda/Herald Sun PR spin hook, line and sinker. What was I saying about brainwashed Victorians?
Wrong.
Again you're using me as a Victorian to try and win an argument. You my friend are a loser. I don't like you. You don't like me. Simple.
There are two sides to the story here. I'm seeing both. People who are defending her - the child welfare people etc only see her side of the story. She's a manipulator and the evidence points to that.
Anyone who doesn't think she is as much to blame as the Saints players are have a warped perspective on life. Anyone who thinks she is totally innocent and the Saints players is the only guilty party in this situation are loopy.
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Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
So its a womans fault if the guy doesn't wear a condom? Got it
Half/half. She is to blame as they are. She knew the risks. She learnt about sex ed in primary school and high school. She was probably sexually active at 11 like half the girls in the world are.
Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
If your sister gets pregnant and the bloke walks away and denies everything, and she is left all alone in the situation I'll lay any price you want that you won't blame her and you would want to cut the guys balls off
No, not at all. I always look at both sides of the story. Not one.
Quote Originally Posted by Hirschfelder:
If this was your daughter or sister your viewpoints would turn 180 degrees. But the 2 people on here more blinded by media opinion then any others are the 2 that have bought the AFL/St Kilda/Herald Sun PR spin hook, line and sinker. What was I saying about brainwashed Victorians?
Wrong.
Again you're using me as a Victorian to try and win an argument. You my friend are a loser. I don't like you. You don't like me. Simple.
There are two sides to the story here. I'm seeing both. People who are defending her - the child welfare people etc only see her side of the story. She's a manipulator and the evidence points to that.
Anyone who doesn't think she is as much to blame as the Saints players are have a warped perspective on life. Anyone who thinks she is totally innocent and the Saints players is the only guilty party in this situation are loopy.
Hirschfelder, get it through your head........she had consensual sex with the footballers, she did NOT get raped........SHE ACCEPTED.....
She is RESPONSIBLE if the guys didnt put a dom on........if SHE WANTED them to put a dom on and they refused, then it is her responsibility to walk / move away from it.......if she tried to and they forced her, then that is rape, but no, we are not talking about rape here........the fact is, she loved it, she loved it badly......
She is 17 and she KNOWS what could happen if a guy blows in her, she damn well knows........but no, the urge was to strong and at the time didnt care...well guess what, she got pregnant......(very very unfortunate regarding the baby and may god bless the childs soul)........
Yes, the players should show some COMPASSION, i would if that was me, but that is me.........there is no LEGAL requirement to show compassion........
If i had to sum up the girl........
Typical Gen Y girl that doesnt want to take responsibility for her action.....its as simple as that.........
If u dont want to get pregnant, then dont go around F###ing everything u see and not practicing safe sex......
Again, actions speak louder than words......take responsibility for your actions people........
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I am sorry, but i agree with Bolar 100%......
Hirschfelder, get it through your head........she had consensual sex with the footballers, she did NOT get raped........SHE ACCEPTED.....
She is RESPONSIBLE if the guys didnt put a dom on........if SHE WANTED them to put a dom on and they refused, then it is her responsibility to walk / move away from it.......if she tried to and they forced her, then that is rape, but no, we are not talking about rape here........the fact is, she loved it, she loved it badly......
She is 17 and she KNOWS what could happen if a guy blows in her, she damn well knows........but no, the urge was to strong and at the time didnt care...well guess what, she got pregnant......(very very unfortunate regarding the baby and may god bless the childs soul)........
Yes, the players should show some COMPASSION, i would if that was me, but that is me.........there is no LEGAL requirement to show compassion........
If i had to sum up the girl........
Typical Gen Y girl that doesnt want to take responsibility for her action.....its as simple as that.........
If u dont want to get pregnant, then dont go around F###ing everything u see and not practicing safe sex......
Again, actions speak louder than words......take responsibility for your actions people........
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