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    The final dagger to Dairyland Greyhound Park?

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2008 - 10:00 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...you have inspired me. I am actually investigating the possible purchase of a dog at Dairlyland, so I started my research.
     
    Wanna know why the sport is so fuked up? I went online to find out about the top kennels at Dairyland to see if I might purchase a dog from one them.
     
    Guess what? Not one of them even has a website nor does DAIRYLAND have any trainer contact info. So,  I emailed the track to see if they can put me in touch with someone from a decent kennel.
     
    Then I went o the Greyhound Racing Assoc. website and they have a section on owning dogs. According to them, you can buy a dog for anywhere from $500 to $4000 with a monthly kennel cost of $80-$120.
     
    Owners take on a purse is about 35% with the purses for most ranges totalling $100 to $300. So if my dog wins a $100 race, I get $35....almost a half-months boarding fee...at the low end.
     
    Holy Lassie! What a difference compared to owning horses.
     
    In Illinois, the cost to buy a horse that racing, even a cheap claimer, is anywhere from $4000 to ???? You can buy a cheap Illinois bred yearling for $1500 and while they are training up to their racing debut it will cost about $500-$800 per month in Illinois.
     
    After a horse starts racing, it's about $2000 per month including the vet here in Illinois. Our purses are 60% for the owner, so if you win a purse of $28,000, you will collect around $18,000. In Illinois and other states, with a state bred horse, you will collect 60% of the added purse in addition to the condition purse.
     
    Compared to horses dogs are......dogs!
     
    Actually, it might be cheaper to buy a poodle and just feed him table scraps and just let him shit in the back yard.

     

    No money in owning greyhounds unless you have a real top notch dog.   A stakes dog.

    Sure would be kind of fun for awhile though.    I have thought about buying one myself several times.    

    If Geneva Lakes was still open I might have done it.    I won't do it at Dairyland.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...you have inspired me. I am actually investigating the possible purchase of a dog at Dairlyland, so I started my research.
     
    Wanna know why the sport is so fuked up? I went online to find out about the top kennels at Dairyland to see if I might purchase a dog from one them.
     
    Guess what? Not one of them even has a website nor does DAIRYLAND have any trainer contact info. So,  I emailed the track to see if they can put me in touch with someone from a decent kennel.
     
    Then I went o the Greyhound Racing Assoc. website and they have a section on owning dogs. According to them, you can buy a dog for anywhere from $500 to $4000 with a monthly kennel cost of $80-$120.
     
    Owners take on a purse is about 35% with the purses for most ranges totalling $100 to $300. So if my dog wins a $100 race, I get $35....almost a half-months boarding fee...at the low end.
     
    Holy Lassie! What a difference compared to owning horses.
     
    In Illinois, the cost to buy a horse that racing, even a cheap claimer, is anywhere from $4000 to ???? You can buy a cheap Illinois bred yearling for $1500 and while they are training up to their racing debut it will cost about $500-$800 per month in Illinois.
     
    After a horse starts racing, it's about $2000 per month including the vet here in Illinois. Our purses are 60% for the owner, so if you win a purse of $28,000, you will collect around $18,000. In Illinois and other states, with a state bred horse, you will collect 60% of the added purse in addition to the condition purse.
     
    Compared to horses dogs are......dogs!
     
    Actually, it might be cheaper to buy a poodle and just feed him table scraps and just let him shit in the back yard.

     

    No money in owning greyhounds unless you have a real top notch dog.   A stakes dog.

    Sure would be kind of fun for awhile though.    I have thought about buying one myself several times.    

    If Geneva Lakes was still open I might have done it.    I won't do it at Dairyland.   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 9:11 AM ET #27

    It's official.   The new expanded Potawotami Casino in Milwaukee is going to have an off track betting parlor opening in August of 2008.    
     
     
    That could be it for Dairyland Greyhound Park. 
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    It's official.   The new expanded Potawotami Casino in Milwaukee is going to have an off track betting parlor opening in August of 2008.    
     
     
    That could be it for Dairyland Greyhound Park. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 10:48 AM ET #28

    HOUND...I talked with one of the better known trainers at Dairyland a few weeks ago, and he said that the slots and expanded gambling is going into Dairyland in the not too distant future.
     
    There will be a hotel complex and a bunch of other attractions included. He swears that it will become te most prominant dog track in North America.
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    HOUND...I talked with one of the better known trainers at Dairyland a few weeks ago, and he said that the slots and expanded gambling is going into Dairyland in the not too distant future.
     
    There will be a hotel complex and a bunch of other attractions included. He swears that it will become te most prominant dog track in North America.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:13 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...I talked with one of the better known trainers at Dairyland a few weeks ago, and he said that the slots and expanded gambling is going into Dairyland in the not too distant future.
     
    There will be a hotel complex and a bunch of other attractions included. He swears that it will become te most prominant dog track in North America.

     

    They have been saying that for years.  

    It's a great spot for a giant casino but I doubt it will ever happen.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...I talked with one of the better known trainers at Dairyland a few weeks ago, and he said that the slots and expanded gambling is going into Dairyland in the not too distant future.
     
    There will be a hotel complex and a bunch of other attractions included. He swears that it will become te most prominant dog track in North America.

     

    They have been saying that for years.  

    It's a great spot for a giant casino but I doubt it will ever happen.   

     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:30 AM ET #30

    there are some quality greyhounds that come from dairyland that go else where and do very well ......must be some owners that have farms in that area  too bad hope your track stays open
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    there are some quality greyhounds that come from dairyland that go else where and do very well ......must be some owners that have farms in that area  too bad hope your track stays open
     
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    Posted: Jun. 9, 2008 - 11:45 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...you have inspired me. I am actually investigating the possible purchase of a dog at Dairlyland, so I started my research.
     
    Wanna know why the sport is so fuked up? I went online to find out about the top kennels at Dairyland to see if I might purchase a dog from one them.
     
    Guess what? Not one of them even has a website nor does DAIRYLAND have any trainer contact info. So,  I emailed the track to see if they can put me in touch with someone from a decent kennel.
     
    Then I went o the Greyhound Racing Assoc. website and they have a section on owning dogs. According to them, you can buy a dog for anywhere from $500 to $4000 with a monthly kennel cost of $80-$120.
     
    Owners take on a purse is about 35% with the purses for most ranges totalling $100 to $300. So if my dog wins a $100 race, I get $35....almost a half-months boarding fee...at the low end.
     
    Holy Lassie! What a difference compared to owning horses.
     
    In Illinois, the cost to buy a horse that racing, even a cheap claimer, is anywhere from $4000 to ???? You can buy a cheap Illinois bred yearling for $1500 and while they are training up to their racing debut it will cost about $500-$800 per month in Illinois.
     
    After a horse starts racing, it's about $2000 per month including the vet here in Illinois. Our purses are 60% for the owner, so if you win a purse of $28,000, you will collect around $18,000. In Illinois and other states, with a state bred horse, you will collect 60% of the added purse in addition to the condition purse.
     
    Compared to horses dogs are......dogs!
     
    Actually, it might be cheaper to buy a poodle and just feed him table scraps and just let him shit in the back yard.

     

    i was owner and trainer of greyhounds in the 70s and 80s .... the 500.00 price is off the mother you start paying board at 2 months old .........thats where the 80 to 120 board bill comes in .........when they are 17 to 18 month old ......you lease them to a kennel...........you get 35% of the purse....... if its a stake race  you get 50% usually ..........but once the dog is off the farm at 17 months .your cost stops .....you are giving a finished product to the kennel.they pay all cost for the dog ...you receive 35% free and clear ....out of it now but if you need any info ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyp1:

    HOUND...you have inspired me. I am actually investigating the possible purchase of a dog at Dairlyland, so I started my research.
     
    Wanna know why the sport is so fuked up? I went online to find out about the top kennels at Dairyland to see if I might purchase a dog from one them.
     
    Guess what? Not one of them even has a website nor does DAIRYLAND have any trainer contact info. So,  I emailed the track to see if they can put me in touch with someone from a decent kennel.
     
    Then I went o the Greyhound Racing Assoc. website and they have a section on owning dogs. According to them, you can buy a dog for anywhere from $500 to $4000 with a monthly kennel cost of $80-$120.
     
    Owners take on a purse is about 35% with the purses for most ranges totalling $100 to $300. So if my dog wins a $100 race, I get $35....almost a half-months boarding fee...at the low end.
     
    Holy Lassie! What a difference compared to owning horses.
     
    In Illinois, the cost to buy a horse that racing, even a cheap claimer, is anywhere from $4000 to ???? You can buy a cheap Illinois bred yearling for $1500 and while they are training up to their racing debut it will cost about $500-$800 per month in Illinois.
     
    After a horse starts racing, it's about $2000 per month including the vet here in Illinois. Our purses are 60% for the owner, so if you win a purse of $28,000, you will collect around $18,000. In Illinois and other states, with a state bred horse, you will collect 60% of the added purse in addition to the condition purse.
     
    Compared to horses dogs are......dogs!
     
    Actually, it might be cheaper to buy a poodle and just feed him table scraps and just let him shit in the back yard.

     

    i was owner and trainer of greyhounds in the 70s and 80s .... the 500.00 price is off the mother you start paying board at 2 months old .........thats where the 80 to 120 board bill comes in .........when they are 17 to 18 month old ......you lease them to a kennel...........you get 35% of the purse....... if its a stake race  you get 50% usually ..........but once the dog is off the farm at 17 months .your cost stops .....you are giving a finished product to the kennel.they pay all cost for the dog ...you receive 35% free and clear ....out of it now but if you need any info ask

     
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    hey mikey if you are really interested in buying a dog forget talking to people are the track they are just care takers ...or the ones that have a kennel and raised there own dogs can get 100% why would they sell you a good dog .......the people you have to talk to are farmers that have raised dogs that compete at  major track and the most important thing in the mother of the pups ........has she produced  good dogs ........its not the stud dog since anyone can pay 1000.00  it s the female line thats all important  ..........i had some nice dogs in the 80s that ran at wonderand  and a great female line that i sold to a farmer almost 20 years ago ..he is still in the buisness and very good...hes in fla...... but if your interested you should find a farmer with a good producing bloodline and raises dogs .......that the way to go .......forget talking to the people at the track level.........good luck
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    hey mikey if you are really interested in buying a dog forget talking to people are the track they are just care takers ...or the ones that have a kennel and raised there own dogs can get 100% why would they sell you a good dog .......the people you have to talk to are farmers that have raised dogs that compete at  major track and the most important thing in the mother of the pups ........has she produced  good dogs ........its not the stud dog since anyone can pay 1000.00  it s the female line thats all important  ..........i had some nice dogs in the 80s that ran at wonderand  and a great female line that i sold to a farmer almost 20 years ago ..he is still in the buisness and very good...hes in fla...... but if your interested you should find a farmer with a good producing bloodline and raises dogs .......that the way to go .......forget talking to the people at the track level.........good luck
     
     
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    I live 1 1/2 miles away from Dairyland and used to go everyday after I graduated before I started working. I actually run by it everynight when working out.   It amazed me how the place stayed open because there was never more than a handful of people there.  They have been tring to turn it into a casino for a while now but have met some pretty strong resistance.  I looked into buying a couple dogs on a couple occasions but it sounded like a waste of money the more research I did on it.  I still go occasionally but its hard to really win much money on anything other than the off track stuff as there is generally only 1k in bets per dog race at Dairyland.  Anyway, I think it would be huge for kenosha if they could turn it into a casino and turn things around. 
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    I live 1 1/2 miles away from Dairyland and used to go everyday after I graduated before I started working. I actually run by it everynight when working out.   It amazed me how the place stayed open because there was never more than a handful of people there.  They have been tring to turn it into a casino for a while now but have met some pretty strong resistance.  I looked into buying a couple dogs on a couple occasions but it sounded like a waste of money the more research I did on it.  I still go occasionally but its hard to really win much money on anything other than the off track stuff as there is generally only 1k in bets per dog race at Dairyland.  Anyway, I think it would be huge for kenosha if they could turn it into a casino and turn things around. 
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