I don't think you really understand what's going on in that tweet. Trump is knowingly putting Jones in a very bad spot. There are a bunch of people that share your point of view and there are boatloads of Dallas Cowboys fans in Texas that are completely disgusted with the players kneeling for the anthem.
That tweet isn't Trump being nice to Jones. That tweet is Trump putting Jones in the national frying pan.
Trump will now start tweeting that he made the owners, make the players, stand for the anthem. He knows how the players will feel about that. This is all the genius of Donald Trump. And rightfully so... the owners and the NFL never should have allowed it from the beginning... They did, Trump is burying them.
Business as usual...
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
I don't think you really understand what's going on in that tweet. Trump is knowingly putting Jones in a very bad spot. There are a bunch of people that share your point of view and there are boatloads of Dallas Cowboys fans in Texas that are completely disgusted with the players kneeling for the anthem.
That tweet isn't Trump being nice to Jones. That tweet is Trump putting Jones in the national frying pan.
Trump will now start tweeting that he made the owners, make the players, stand for the anthem. He knows how the players will feel about that. This is all the genius of Donald Trump. And rightfully so... the owners and the NFL never should have allowed it from the beginning... They did, Trump is burying them.
That's how they roll. There are levels to libtardness and a black women that is a member of LGBQBTZ is borderline unfuckwithable and the lower libtards (executives/white males) just committed a big no-no in the libtard handbook. There will be hell to pay ---> thousands of emails from cat lady's etc.
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That's how they roll. There are levels to libtardness and a black women that is a member of LGBQBTZ is borderline unfuckwithable and the lower libtards (executives/white males) just committed a big no-no in the libtard handbook. There will be hell to pay ---> thousands of emails from cat lady's etc.
I don't think you really understand what's going on in that tweet. Trump is knowingly putting Jones in a very bad spot. There are a bunch of people that share your point of view and there are boatloads of Dallas Cowboys fans in Texas that are completely disgusted with the players kneeling for the anthem.
That tweet isn't Trump being nice to Jones. That tweet is Trump putting Jones in the national frying pan.
Trump will now start tweeting that he made the owners, make the players, stand for the anthem. He knows how the players will feel about that. This is all the genius of Donald Trump. And rightfully so... the owners and the NFL never should have allowed it from the beginning... They did, Trump is burying them.
We're going to disagree on that one. I don't see any "genius" to Trump's tactics. Niners and Colts had players kneel with Pence in the building. This just comes across as Jones levying an ultimatum to his players (I don't remember any of them kneeling during the anthem before anyways, I could be wrong on that though) and Trump praising him since it supports his side.
I could see why Trump, a guy that was born on third thinking he hit a triple in life, would want people to blindly think America is a wonderful place for everyone. I can also see why a bunch of guys, several of whom might have grown up less fortunate, might not have the same perspective about America, given how they were treated growing up.
If there is anyone Trump should "throw in the frying pan" it's Goodell. Notice how Adam Silver addressed this issue before the season even started?
I don't think Trump is that smart. I'm taking the tweet you referenced at face value: Trump saluting Jones for taking a stand against peaceful protest by his players.....but not violent crimes.
Let's be honest too, If Zeke or Dak took a knee for the anthem next time out, they might sit one play or one drive. No way Jones sits them for a game or more. Look at his history of treating players who have done worse in society.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
I don't think you really understand what's going on in that tweet. Trump is knowingly putting Jones in a very bad spot. There are a bunch of people that share your point of view and there are boatloads of Dallas Cowboys fans in Texas that are completely disgusted with the players kneeling for the anthem.
That tweet isn't Trump being nice to Jones. That tweet is Trump putting Jones in the national frying pan.
Trump will now start tweeting that he made the owners, make the players, stand for the anthem. He knows how the players will feel about that. This is all the genius of Donald Trump. And rightfully so... the owners and the NFL never should have allowed it from the beginning... They did, Trump is burying them.
We're going to disagree on that one. I don't see any "genius" to Trump's tactics. Niners and Colts had players kneel with Pence in the building. This just comes across as Jones levying an ultimatum to his players (I don't remember any of them kneeling during the anthem before anyways, I could be wrong on that though) and Trump praising him since it supports his side.
I could see why Trump, a guy that was born on third thinking he hit a triple in life, would want people to blindly think America is a wonderful place for everyone. I can also see why a bunch of guys, several of whom might have grown up less fortunate, might not have the same perspective about America, given how they were treated growing up.
If there is anyone Trump should "throw in the frying pan" it's Goodell. Notice how Adam Silver addressed this issue before the season even started?
I don't think Trump is that smart. I'm taking the tweet you referenced at face value: Trump saluting Jones for taking a stand against peaceful protest by his players.....but not violent crimes.
Let's be honest too, If Zeke or Dak took a knee for the anthem next time out, they might sit one play or one drive. No way Jones sits them for a game or more. Look at his history of treating players who have done worse in society.
The protests are happening on Jones' platform. He isn't taking a stand against peaceful protests. He's taking a stand against players using his platform for the protests.
If you owned a bar would you allow employees on the clock to participate in a protest on a divisive issue in your establishment?
Would you allow your employees to protest planned parenthood, on the clock, inside your establishment? With the controversial message being aimed at your customers?
Stopping people from protesting is illegal. Stopping people from protesting while at work, using their employers platform is completely reasonable.
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The protests are happening on Jones' platform. He isn't taking a stand against peaceful protests. He's taking a stand against players using his platform for the protests.
If you owned a bar would you allow employees on the clock to participate in a protest on a divisive issue in your establishment?
Would you allow your employees to protest planned parenthood, on the clock, inside your establishment? With the controversial message being aimed at your customers?
Stopping people from protesting is illegal. Stopping people from protesting while at work, using their employers platform is completely reasonable.
The protests are happening on Jones' platform. He isn't taking a stand against peaceful protests. He's taking a stand against players using his platform for the protests.
If you owned a bar would you allow employees on the clock to participate in a protest on a divisive issue in your establishment?
Would you allow your employees to protest planned parenthood, on the clock, inside your establishment? With the controversial message being aimed at your customers?
Stopping people from protesting is illegal. Stopping people from protesting while at work, using their employers platform is completely reasonable.
We were already in agreement on employees not being allowed to protest at work if their employer doesn't allow it. I agree, Jones can cut a player tomorrow if he feels like it. Goodell can suspend guys that protest the anthem if he wants. But they probably won't do that. That was established in other threads.
What I disagree with you on Trump saluting Jones for "taking a stand" against his employees protesting during the anthem. You say this is some "genius" tactic by Trump to put pressure on NFL owners to stand up to their players. I disagree. I don't see any "genius" to Trump's tweet. I take it at face value: Trump commending a guy that is on his side of the issue. Trump isn't some tactical genius that is three steps ahead of everyone else.
TBH, I'm not even sure what Jones would do if someone like Zeke or Dak did protest during the anthem. Bench them for a play, a series, a game, the season? We don't know. Jones saying he'll bench a guy is pretty vague imo. Especially given his history of signing players that have committed actual crimes.
We're nine months into Trump's Presidency and this is what is considered a "major victory": getting some NFL players to stand during the national anthem. It's going to be a long four years if you consider this a major victory.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
The protests are happening on Jones' platform. He isn't taking a stand against peaceful protests. He's taking a stand against players using his platform for the protests.
If you owned a bar would you allow employees on the clock to participate in a protest on a divisive issue in your establishment?
Would you allow your employees to protest planned parenthood, on the clock, inside your establishment? With the controversial message being aimed at your customers?
Stopping people from protesting is illegal. Stopping people from protesting while at work, using their employers platform is completely reasonable.
We were already in agreement on employees not being allowed to protest at work if their employer doesn't allow it. I agree, Jones can cut a player tomorrow if he feels like it. Goodell can suspend guys that protest the anthem if he wants. But they probably won't do that. That was established in other threads.
What I disagree with you on Trump saluting Jones for "taking a stand" against his employees protesting during the anthem. You say this is some "genius" tactic by Trump to put pressure on NFL owners to stand up to their players. I disagree. I don't see any "genius" to Trump's tweet. I take it at face value: Trump commending a guy that is on his side of the issue. Trump isn't some tactical genius that is three steps ahead of everyone else.
TBH, I'm not even sure what Jones would do if someone like Zeke or Dak did protest during the anthem. Bench them for a play, a series, a game, the season? We don't know. Jones saying he'll bench a guy is pretty vague imo. Especially given his history of signing players that have committed actual crimes.
We're nine months into Trump's Presidency and this is what is considered a "major victory": getting some NFL players to stand during the national anthem. It's going to be a long four years if you consider this a major victory.
Most of our social and economic problems internally always comes down to one thing and one thing only. Do you have a father? If you do you should be fine, if don't you are behind the 8 ball. Pretty simple. Racism is a weak excuse.
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Good thread Detox.
Most of our social and economic problems internally always comes down to one thing and one thing only. Do you have a father? If you do you should be fine, if don't you are behind the 8 ball. Pretty simple. Racism is a weak excuse.
It's great to see liberal Hollywood imploding as well. Those of us on the Trump Train saw this one coming from 1,000 miles away.
And just how completely stupid must Ben Affleck be ? He decides after several days he's going to condemn his old friend Harvey and talk about how these perverse acts make him sick. Then, within hours, he's exposed as a serial groper himself and has to apologize for his own disgusting behavior, all while making himself part of the story. Moronic. Just extraordinarily moronic.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
It's great to see liberal Hollywood imploding as well. Those of us on the Trump Train saw this one coming from 1,000 miles away.
And just how completely stupid must Ben Affleck be ? He decides after several days he's going to condemn his old friend Harvey and talk about how these perverse acts make him sick. Then, within hours, he's exposed as a serial groper himself and has to apologize for his own disgusting behavior, all while making himself part of the story. Moronic. Just extraordinarily moronic.
And just how completely stupid must Ben Affleck be ? He decides after several days he's going to condemn his old friend Harvey and talk about how these perverse acts make him sick. Then, within hours, he's exposed as a serial groper himself and has to apologize for his own disgusting behavior, all while making himself part of the story. Moronic. Just extraordinarily moronic.
At least he has condemned him still waiting for all you trumpettes to condemn the fraud in chief .
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Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:
And just how completely stupid must Ben Affleck be ? He decides after several days he's going to condemn his old friend Harvey and talk about how these perverse acts make him sick. Then, within hours, he's exposed as a serial groper himself and has to apologize for his own disgusting behavior, all while making himself part of the story. Moronic. Just extraordinarily moronic.
At least he has condemned him still waiting for all you trumpettes to condemn the fraud in chief .
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