Detox's political thread

But you lose me when you start in on abortion Detox. I see the point you’re trying to make though

Fair enough

Outlawing abortions are not going to help the Welfare State. Call me cynical but I believe abortion is a form of Darwinism 

It's not a matter of wanting to be lied to. Some things are just better left to the government in secret, like they always were. Otherwise it becomes a foreign relations nightmare. There is a thing called the geneva convention. Look it up. You say all major nations use torture, and while I agree with you, you can't definitively say they do because frankly you don't really know what the h3ll goes on behind closed doors in foreign countries. You assume. So while i'm not against torture in theory, my problem is more with our inability to keep our national secrets classified. There's always a whistle blower. Someone looking for 15 minutes of fame. There's always something. And like I said, if you're gonna torture someone, you better make sure they're atleast really guilty of a crime. You better have a smoking gun.

As far as abortion goes, don't even get me started. Dumbest argument ever. It's so weird, republicans are against stuff just because their party tells them to be. What is the issue with abortion. Half of these so called conservatives aren't even really religious. "You're killing innocent americans!" So let me get this straight. You're against all of these social sevice programs. Against welfare. Against universal healthcare, food stamps, free school lunches, ect. Some young mother makes the decision that she isn't ready to be a parent, that she's unable to... "Nope! You must keep that baby and raise it poor and malnourished!" Poor girl gets raped...by her father.... "You must keep your child/sibling and raise it without any assistance even though it'll probably have severe medical and mental issues because it fathered by a close family member!"

What possible grounds could you have to be against abortion?

Republicans are against sex education, against providing birth control but also against abortion.

So you don't believe that governments function better when they're able to do things outside of the prying eyes of even it's own citizens. What the point in even having intelligence departments? We can just start crowd sourcing military strategy. How bout posting weapons designs on facebook. Do you really think we'll stop using torture just because we say we will? If you do, than you're an idiot. And you know we're cool so i'm not trying to insult you but you post things sometimes and one if left thinkinf, "What's the point." Do you have proof of all of those countries using torture or is it just assumption. If you have proof then you essentially proof my point. I think things work better when there is a veil of secrecy but we now live in an era where everyone things it's there right to know everything. Personally, I don't care if we torture some terrorist. I'm not squemish. I'm not sensitive. I just don't want to hear about it. Not because it bothers me but because it doesn't make strategic sense. If you want to hear about this stuff, it means you get off of it and you're weird.

Oh, for sure. Agree 100%. In fact, if Hillary would've nominated her everybody would be all "girl power". Trump puts her up and everyone is acting like she's Heinrich freakin' Himmler. Trump has made some horrible appointments. It shows how heavily the deck is stacked against him when there is issues with one of his best.

Yes. And the media will say as little as possible. On the contrary, if Obama had pulled this off, well.....

as an aside, I had to laugh last night at the fake news reporting that Blankenship was gonna win yesterday in WV. 

Fake News is relentless

I hope that happens slim. No CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC or NBC in the press room. 90% of the Trump coverage is negative. I would take a day off of work to watch Sarah run the briefing without the alphabets mentioned above.

Listening to them question her is pathetic ...I guess we are supposed to make surf and turf dinners for terrorists ...

Shut up! I nevwe follow bullsh!t networks, both red nor blue, so i'm in the weeds. Are they really? What, are they complaining about fuel consumption?