Since your so interested I can create an analogy to help you understand what I am talking about.
Let's say there is a law that says if you break into someone's house you are supposed to go to jail. Now someone breaks into your house and the cops do nothing...they let him go. Then tomorrow night he breaks in...same thing happens...cops do nothing. The night after that...guy breaks in...same old story...cops do nothing. Now the fourth night the guy breaks in and and you break his legs with a baseball bat...cops come and you both go to jail. Seems like if the cops would have properly done their job and put the guy in jail the first time the law was broken that the subsequent events wouldn't have taken place....and now to boot you have an innocent guy in jail who was just sick and tired of the cops doing nothing and he was defending his house.
How bout that approach?? Is this clearer??
See post 141 in the link below for another example of what I am talking about...the people who are here to discuss sports and pick winners are sick of the place being run down by scum and nothing being done about it.
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
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Quote Originally Posted by MaddenGuru:
Since your so interested I can create an analogy to help you understand what I am talking about.
Let's say there is a law that says if you break into someone's house you are supposed to go to jail. Now someone breaks into your house and the cops do nothing...they let him go. Then tomorrow night he breaks in...same thing happens...cops do nothing. The night after that...guy breaks in...same old story...cops do nothing. Now the fourth night the guy breaks in and and you break his legs with a baseball bat...cops come and you both go to jail. Seems like if the cops would have properly done their job and put the guy in jail the first time the law was broken that the subsequent events wouldn't have taken place....and now to boot you have an innocent guy in jail who was just sick and tired of the cops doing nothing and he was defending his house.
How bout that approach?? Is this clearer??
See post 141 in the link below for another example of what I am talking about...the people who are here to discuss sports and pick winners are sick of the place being run down by scum and nothing being done about it.
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
I think that the current state of the forums and the way they are governed fall more closely in the middle of both our views/examples...I can't completely disagree with your analysis, yet I think my analogy holds a lot of water as well...that being said, lets just hope things get better and people can enjoy their time posting here and not go somewhere else.
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Quote Originally Posted by allbees:
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
I think that the current state of the forums and the way they are governed fall more closely in the middle of both our views/examples...I can't completely disagree with your analysis, yet I think my analogy holds a lot of water as well...that being said, lets just hope things get better and people can enjoy their time posting here and not go somewhere else.
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
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Quote Originally Posted by allbees:
It is clear that you want us to run a police state around here with no freedom of speech. Ban half the posters in the baseball forum, how would that make anyone feel at ease posting on our forums?
Here is an analogy. A home owner plants some flowers and receives many comments on how great his flowers look. Someone comes to your front door one day and says, I don't like the way you plant your flowers. The home owner goes in his house and comes out putting up signs saying I am going to kill so and so, others calling him every name in the book, etc. He goes to stores around town and other people's homes and says the same things. Soon it is a full blown feud spreading all over town, involving everyone and dividing the town. Just because someone didn't like the flowers, that in a nutshell is the covers forums. All could be avoided if the home owner said I will just plant my flowers and enjoy them myself and with the other people that enjoy my flowers.
I don't see the analogy of a 4 time home break in to someone on an internet forum having a difference of opinion and someone going bonkers over it. I appreciate you comments and the mod team continues to monitor this site to the best of our abilities. You are free to disagree with it.
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
You give it up?
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
This is what happens when forum members like ChaseG get involved in a thread and ruin it, it will always end in the box...And its always the mother fuckers who just joined the forum...ALWAYS... Instead of banning these dumb fucks or boxing them right away shit gets carried on until the original poster has no choice but to defend himself at all costs
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
This is what happens when forum members like ChaseG get involved in a thread and ruin it, it will always end in the box...And its always the mother fuckers who just joined the forum...ALWAYS... Instead of banning these dumb fucks or boxing them right away shit gets carried on until the original poster has no choice but to defend himself at all costs
I would imagine he is still capping on a daily basis but I can't say I blame him for not posting given the current condition of these forums. People don't get it that when someone posts they are taking time out of their day and getting nothing in return so for someone to have to put up with the garbage that GH puts up with is absurd. No one has a gun to people's heads to tail yet they feel like its GH's or someone elses fault if they lose. Unfortunately for the mature member's of this site who appreciate the quality insight that posters like GH offer, we are the ones who pay the price. Until a the forum undergoes an overhaul nothing will change and quality posters will continue to be chased away by greedy immature fools who don't have a clue what they're doing.
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Quote Originally Posted by goinggone:
You give it up?
I would imagine he is still capping on a daily basis but I can't say I blame him for not posting given the current condition of these forums. People don't get it that when someone posts they are taking time out of their day and getting nothing in return so for someone to have to put up with the garbage that GH puts up with is absurd. No one has a gun to people's heads to tail yet they feel like its GH's or someone elses fault if they lose. Unfortunately for the mature member's of this site who appreciate the quality insight that posters like GH offer, we are the ones who pay the price. Until a the forum undergoes an overhaul nothing will change and quality posters will continue to be chased away by greedy immature fools who don't have a clue what they're doing.
This is what happens when forum members like ChaseG get involved in a thread and ruin it, it will always end in the box...And its always the mother fuckers who just joined the forum...ALWAYS... Instead of banning these dumb fucks or boxing them right away shit gets carried on until the original poster has no choice but to defend himself at all costs
100% agree...but don't let the mods here you say this because they will get upset and their feelings will be hurt
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Quote Originally Posted by URISS2302:
This is what happens when forum members like ChaseG get involved in a thread and ruin it, it will always end in the box...And its always the mother fuckers who just joined the forum...ALWAYS... Instead of banning these dumb fucks or boxing them right away shit gets carried on until the original poster has no choice but to defend himself at all costs
100% agree...but don't let the mods here you say this because they will get upset and their feelings will be hurt
I would imagine he is still capping on a daily basis but I can't say I blame him for not posting given the current condition of these forums. People don't get it that when someone posts they are taking time out of their day and getting nothing in return so for someone to have to put up with the garbage that GH puts up with is absurd. No one has a gun to people's heads to tail yet they feel like its GH's or someone elses fault if they lose. Unfortunately for the mature member's of this site who appreciate the quality insight that posters like GH offer, we are the ones who pay the price. Until a the forum undergoes an overhaul nothing will change and quality posters will continue to be chased away by greedy immature fools who don't have a clue what they're doing.
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Quote Originally Posted by MaddenGuru:
I would imagine he is still capping on a daily basis but I can't say I blame him for not posting given the current condition of these forums. People don't get it that when someone posts they are taking time out of their day and getting nothing in return so for someone to have to put up with the garbage that GH puts up with is absurd. No one has a gun to people's heads to tail yet they feel like its GH's or someone elses fault if they lose. Unfortunately for the mature member's of this site who appreciate the quality insight that posters like GH offer, we are the ones who pay the price. Until a the forum undergoes an overhaul nothing will change and quality posters will continue to be chased away by greedy immature fools who don't have a clue what they're doing.
100% agree...but don't let the mods here you say this because they will get upset and their feelings will be hurt
This guy BALDHEADSLICK is a classic example... Goes into everyone's thread and bashes them. Calls their picks garbage etc... has no knowledge of the posters history in the forum, he than attracts the other 1 - 3 month members who are just here to poke fun, and the free for all starts... does everything he or she can to degrade the poster and never got boxed... Has no reputation to worry about because they never post plays or were ever involved in conversations on making a wager... In the NFL forum whenever I got bashed the person got boxed, maybe because I was getting 8,000 + views a weekend on my NFL plays
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Quote Originally Posted by MaddenGuru:
100% agree...but don't let the mods here you say this because they will get upset and their feelings will be hurt
This guy BALDHEADSLICK is a classic example... Goes into everyone's thread and bashes them. Calls their picks garbage etc... has no knowledge of the posters history in the forum, he than attracts the other 1 - 3 month members who are just here to poke fun, and the free for all starts... does everything he or she can to degrade the poster and never got boxed... Has no reputation to worry about because they never post plays or were ever involved in conversations on making a wager... In the NFL forum whenever I got bashed the person got boxed, maybe because I was getting 8,000 + views a weekend on my NFL plays
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
exactly
Keep Calm and Bet 10 Play Over Parlays
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
HEY, HEY, HEY!!!
STOP.
MAKING.
SENSE.
This is your last warning!
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Quote Originally Posted by GameHunter:
With all due respect, as suggested by others above, why would moderators move a productive and informative thread (which many have enjoyed reading) like this to the Penalty Box when the content is a great example of what this site is about (sharing information and insight) rather than deleting 1 or 2 posts out of 279 in the thread and boxing the perpetrators?
Here's a good example: One day a guy walks into a library and starts screaming ethnic and racial slurs at the top of his lungs and offends just about everyone there. The police show up and let the guy go home without recourse and shut down the library.
That's exactly what was done to this thread! I would think that a moderator would want to do everything possible to make the Covers' website the best it can be.
How does moving this thread to the PB rather than deleting one or two posts made by worthless posters make this site better? In addition, quite frankly, maybe I missed something, but I don't even see anything in this thread that is overly offensive unless I missed something.
Still doing my daily work but until I get a consistent rhythm, I don't feel the need to post and don't want to steer anyone further wrong in the main forum.
Today I'm on: SD, SF, LAA, Minn, Ari......
Looking forward to a moderator's response to post #279.
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Quote Originally Posted by goinggone:
You give it up?
Still doing my daily work but until I get a consistent rhythm, I don't feel the need to post and don't want to steer anyone further wrong in the main forum.
Today I'm on: SD, SF, LAA, Minn, Ari......
Looking forward to a moderator's response to post #279.
this is great read.....even if I disagree with some points, it still helps me get my head on straight for the season....anyone who bets MLB knows that its a marathon, not a sprint.....you might win a week here or there but to make the money you have to play each and every week.
I dont even think of betting MLB until May 1st....if I do bet in April it is just me playing around with 20-50 dollar bets.....nothing to big....come May I like to think I have a good read on the season and I have a months worth of info to go off of.....last year I was down 4k at the break only to come back and go up 1k at seasons end....you might think that is weak and it is, but the 2nd half I lowered my unit bet from the 1st half....if I would have kept my unit bet at 100-200 I would have been up a good amount...... but I faded and I paid dearly for it.....lesson learned is keep it up and use the system that works best for you and remember that you can never research to much....stats, stats stats.....you can never have to many stats to look into.
good lick everyone, I am getting excited for 2011 MLB,
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this is great read.....even if I disagree with some points, it still helps me get my head on straight for the season....anyone who bets MLB knows that its a marathon, not a sprint.....you might win a week here or there but to make the money you have to play each and every week.
I dont even think of betting MLB until May 1st....if I do bet in April it is just me playing around with 20-50 dollar bets.....nothing to big....come May I like to think I have a good read on the season and I have a months worth of info to go off of.....last year I was down 4k at the break only to come back and go up 1k at seasons end....you might think that is weak and it is, but the 2nd half I lowered my unit bet from the 1st half....if I would have kept my unit bet at 100-200 I would have been up a good amount...... but I faded and I paid dearly for it.....lesson learned is keep it up and use the system that works best for you and remember that you can never research to much....stats, stats stats.....you can never have to many stats to look into.
good lick everyone, I am getting excited for 2011 MLB,
very nice good info...1 question? they wont let me use matchbook or pinnacle anymore....any suggestions on the book to use for baseball.? thank ypu for a nice article. big poo
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very nice good info...1 question? they wont let me use matchbook or pinnacle anymore....any suggestions on the book to use for baseball.? thank ypu for a nice article. big poo
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