MLB - Wednesday 6/18

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

GH - I see now that you have birfurcated that you are betting 1st 5 inning lines - and are using pinnacle lines and must be at pinnacle because it is the only place that will take 3k on a 1st 5 inning total.

 

Im curious how you bet there as an Amercian?  I have heard several ways that people do it, Im always interested in hearing if there is an easy way that you are using that could help someone else out.

 

Thanks -

 

I am only playing $750-1000 on my first 5 inning totals.

Ask BrendanB to cut and paste his explanations on the 3 ways Americans can play at Pinny. He has explained it countless times.

While I have pretty consistently defended you (especially as the numbers of "haters" has grown to mob mentality proportions), I would be surprised if an attorney would employ one of the Pinnacle methods. In terms of facing indictment/charges, there is a very clear line between simple internet gambling and misrepresentng residential/name status, Game.....

Quote Originally Posted by uscmarshallalum:

could you shed some lights on your 'sudden' over/under plays?  I guess you spot a strong trend that is hidden from many of us?

Minny is 37-14 under the last 2 years when the line is -125 to -175 and 23-5 under at home when -125 t0 -150. Washington isn't hitting and Bergman is more than capable despite a few rough outings.

KC is 28-7 under the last 2 years on the road when +125 to +150. Bannister has been roughed up on the orad but has faced some of the best hitting teams in the majors. The Cards are banged up and still without Pujols and Looper comes in off his best outing of the year.

Sheets and Marcum are two of the hottest pitchers in baseball. In Sheets last 5 starts, he has tossed 36.7 innings and allowed 37 hits, 8 earned runs (1.96 ERA) and has a 29:5 K:BB ratio. Marcum has thrown quality starts in 12 out of his 14 starts this year. In his last 4 starts, Marcum has tossed 28.3 innings and allowed 31 hits, 5 earned runs (1.59 ERA) and has a 21:6 K:BB ratio. On the road, he has a 2.43 ERA and in his last 4 starts he has allowed just 1 run in the first 5 innings making his F5 ERA 0.45.

Rasner has been outstanding at home for the Yanks. In his 3 home starts, he has a 1.71 ERA and 14:1 K:BB ratio Peavy is one of the top pitchers in baseball and his road ERA the past 3+ seasons is 3.33.

I guess I was more curious as to which one YOU were using....

Real success is much more important than theoretical success.

Also, it would help me to know if when you bet 1k at 11am on a 1st 5 inning total how much the line changes at pinny.  I know when you bet 3k late in the day it moves about 5 cents, just curious how much it moves when you bet it.

Thanks DJ but I have not stated anything about what I am currently doing to play there and did not say I am misrepresenting anything. Remember Canada is not some far off country. Millions of people have easy access to Canada and live near Canada. Many do business in Canada. Many have offices in both the US and Canada and therefore have more than one address. Others have friends or do business with people from other countries like Canada or countries in the Bahamas. As BrendanB can confirm, many people are credit customers also at Pinny and don't wire anything. There are numerous ways.

And certainly you know that many smaller shops use Pinny as a guide in setting their lines, particularly lines with smaller markets such as First 5 inning lines. Pinny sets the five inning market. Others follow it.

I would be very shocked if a 3k bet moved a line at any of the major sports books.

Lowe has turned things around. In his last 5 starts, he has tossed 36 innings and allowed 28 hits, 8 earned runs (2.00 ERA) and has a 22:7 K:BB ratio. In 96 lifetime at bats against Lowe, CIncy hitters have just 1 HR and a .198 average. Arroyo has looked sharper of late and particularly at home. In his last 3 home starts, Arroyo has tossed 19.3 innings and allowed just 10 hits, 1 earned run (0.47 ERA) with a 15:8 K:BB ratio and in 129 lifetime at bats against Arroyo, active Dodger hitters have no home runs and just 8 RBI's. GL.

THX.

van moved a line 3 points on WNBA the other day at Pinnacle by betting $250.00

Just saying.

Coming from someone who never bet a limit 3k bet on a 1st half total.

I guarantee you - GUARANFUCKINGTEE YOU - that 3 dimes on a first half total moves the line 5 cents before 2 hours before gametime at Pinnacle.

That is because of who Van is not because of how much he bet. Im sure Pinny adjusts lines based on his wagers alone however large or small.

I admit that I have never bet 3k offshore on any game. I just can't imagine that this number would move any line.