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    ROULETTE UPDATE--- DEALERS were SENT HOME LAST NIGHT

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    LostBall
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 10:38 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW - that show is completely 100% fiction horseshit.

    I saw one on the "dominator", a guy that vegas feared, and it was so funny I couldnt take it.

    Sammy probably writes for that show.

     

    Yeah, I saw that one too.  You may be able to toss the dice without them rolling over in the air, but when they bounce and hit the back wall, randomness enters into the equation.  The box man is not going to allow too many rolls that do not hit the back wall.

    Craps is my favorite casino game, and I have read the threads on here concerning craps strategies.  Good reads.  As the threads states, I agree the odds behind the pass line is absolutely the best bet you are going to get in a casino.  When people ask me what I like about it, I tell them you can't control the dice, but you can understand all the bets and the casino advantage attached to each bet, and control the way you bet.  I would rather not even shoot the dice, but concentrate on my wagering.  I just can't believe the number of people that play the slots...

    You may be correct, Sammy may write for them.  He does have plenty of material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW - that show is completely 100% fiction horseshit.

    I saw one on the "dominator", a guy that vegas feared, and it was so funny I couldnt take it.

    Sammy probably writes for that show.

     

    Yeah, I saw that one too.  You may be able to toss the dice without them rolling over in the air, but when they bounce and hit the back wall, randomness enters into the equation.  The box man is not going to allow too many rolls that do not hit the back wall.

    Craps is my favorite casino game, and I have read the threads on here concerning craps strategies.  Good reads.  As the threads states, I agree the odds behind the pass line is absolutely the best bet you are going to get in a casino.  When people ask me what I like about it, I tell them you can't control the dice, but you can understand all the bets and the casino advantage attached to each bet, and control the way you bet.  I would rather not even shoot the dice, but concentrate on my wagering.  I just can't believe the number of people that play the slots...

    You may be correct, Sammy may write for them.  He does have plenty of material.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 10:38 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW - that show is completely 100% fiction horseshit.

    I saw one on the "dominator", a guy that vegas feared, and it was so funny I couldnt take it.

    Sammy probably writes for that show.

    3 times now I was supposed to meet someone in AC that was going to show me dice setting that claimed to win most of the time. and every damn time there was an excuse not to meet.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    BTW - that show is completely 100% fiction horseshit.

    I saw one on the "dominator", a guy that vegas feared, and it was so funny I couldnt take it.

    Sammy probably writes for that show.

    3 times now I was supposed to meet someone in AC that was going to show me dice setting that claimed to win most of the time. and every damn time there was an excuse not to meet.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 10:52 AM ET #28

    Of course, in classic tout fashion - "the dominator" makes money by selling his "secrets" of dice setting and "craps strategies" (I feel dumb for even typing that sentence).

    Poor guy.  He has been banned everywhere but is now willing to teach you how to win at craps for 2 grand.

    The TV show is a 1 hour infomercial for the guys tout service.

     

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    Of course, in classic tout fashion - "the dominator" makes money by selling his "secrets" of dice setting and "craps strategies" (I feel dumb for even typing that sentence).

    Poor guy.  He has been banned everywhere but is now willing to teach you how to win at craps for 2 grand.

    The TV show is a 1 hour infomercial for the guys tout service.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 10:59 AM ET #29

    You would think that with all of these successful "dice setters" out there that craps will eventually be yanked out of every casino.

    Afterall, craps has some razor thin house edges, and because of the nature of the game in that everyone at a table wins when you have one hot shooter - you would think with all of the dice setters being pumped out of the dominators academy would be shutting down craps tables everywhere.

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    You would think that with all of these successful "dice setters" out there that craps will eventually be yanked out of every casino.

    Afterall, craps has some razor thin house edges, and because of the nature of the game in that everyone at a table wins when you have one hot shooter - you would think with all of the dice setters being pumped out of the dominators academy would be shutting down craps tables everywhere.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 11:06 AM ET #30

    Sammy has posted before about catching a liar, and the tactics that liars use, how to identify a false story, etc.


    As "Aldo the Apache" would say - you know how ya get to Carnegie Hall don'tcha?  Practice.
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    Sammy has posted before about catching a liar, and the tactics that liars use, how to identify a false story, etc.


    As "Aldo the Apache" would say - you know how ya get to Carnegie Hall don'tcha?  Practice.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 11:07 AM ET #31

    I remember when I was a child, my mother used to tell me that whenever someone has to stop a story & then re-start it, they're lying through their teeth
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    I remember when I was a child, my mother used to tell me that whenever someone has to stop a story & then re-start it, they're lying through their teeth
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 11:08 AM ET #32

    I wonder if Sammy realizes that everyone thinks he's a joke
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    I wonder if Sammy realizes that everyone thinks he's a joke
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 11:11 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You would think that with all of these successful "dice setters" out there that craps will eventually be yanked out of every casino.

    Afterall, craps has some razor thin house edges, and because of the nature of the game in that everyone at a table wins when you have one hot shooter - you would think with all of the dice setters being pumped out of the dominators academy would be shutting down craps tables everywhere.



    There is fear in those words..you WANT to believe it is possible, you want to buy the program, you want to attend his seminar.

    Believe in the system......


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    You would think that with all of these successful "dice setters" out there that craps will eventually be yanked out of every casino.

    Afterall, craps has some razor thin house edges, and because of the nature of the game in that everyone at a table wins when you have one hot shooter - you would think with all of the dice setters being pumped out of the dominators academy would be shutting down craps tables everywhere.



    There is fear in those words..you WANT to believe it is possible, you want to buy the program, you want to attend his seminar.

    Believe in the system......


     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 11:16 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    There is fear in those words..you WANT to believe it is possible, you want to buy the program, you want to attend his seminar.

    Believe in the system......


    I will be watching this system closely.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    There is fear in those words..you WANT to believe it is possible, you want to buy the program, you want to attend his seminar.

    Believe in the system......


    I will be watching this system closely.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 12:02 PM ET #35

    "No one can possibly win at rolette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking." — Albert Einstein

     

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    "No one can possibly win at rolette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn't looking." — Albert Einstein

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 12:13 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    (*cough cough BULLSHIT)

     

    What, Sammy make up a story

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    (*cough cough BULLSHIT)

     

    What, Sammy make up a story

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:30 PM ET #37


    I do realize GUYS that LUCK has a big part in IT--

    What LOST posted above was EXACTLY waht everyone was DOING--

    Betting the 8 Numbers around the SPIN HEAVY and then HEDGING other NUMBERS to break even--


    The ball kept HITTING the 8 numbers in the Area that we are all betting heavier--

    I will continue the STORY of the Morning SHIFT--

    I stayed all NIGHT and throughout the following morning because I was winning--
    New Dealers came on in the Morning, there was just a few people left in the casino at 7am---
    So now I had 2 new Dealers throwing the ball,

    One Asian lady throwing DID the exact OPPOSITE of what the dealers did last night She would throw the BALL at one end of the TABLE, and then the next SPIN would be the Exact opposite side of the wheel-
    She was COMPLETELY RANDOM-
    I thought fuck she is TRICKY, she did not THROW the ball near the last number-
    I noticed her doing this with PRECISION, so what i did was BET the numbers on the opposite side of the wheel and I HIT SOME numbers that way--

    Then an OLDER ASIAN Dealer, nice guy was DEALING and he would do the same thing as the Dealers last night- He was so PREDICTABLE--- His throws would be approximately 4 or 5 numbers away from the last NUMBER in the same section--

    I picked up on this and started hitting those numbers and winning more there-

    The ONLY ELEMENT I believe that is CONTROLLABLE is the HUMAN element of the DEALER throwing--

    Does anyone have any ideas why the dealers seem to land the ball closer to the last number at a higher CLIP than going opposite-

    Anyone heard of the REPEATING NUMBER system--

    THE REVERSE LABOUCHERIE SYSTEM is one that I will try now- Been researching it, its a VERY GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM in which you can HAVE 50% WINS and still make MONEY with this system--

    I cannot say anything is certain in ROULETTE, but the only EDGE we have is DEALERS SIGNATURE--

    If you throw the same PITCHES  over and OVER the HITTERS will hit HOME RUNS OFF YOU--

    If you throw the ROULETTE BALL the same SPEED and the BALL seems to land in the same SPOT, players will take advantage by betting on those numbers--

    Also I thought PERHAPS the wheel is CROOKED or not 100% straight----

    I wondered if there is a VALID REASON why certain numbers seem to come up more?
    I mean the Number is PAINTED On the wheel, so it is basically a POSITION on the wheel--

    There is a STUDY OF NUMEROLOGY, which attempts to say there are LUCKY numbers and so forth-
    BUt Numerology could be nothing more than Selection BIAS CONFIRMATION-
    WHere you believe something is LUCKY OR TRUE then you acccept any EVIDENCE of that fact--

    Ex- You believe #3 is LUCKY and while driving you see a guy wearing a JEREy with # 3 on it--
    Then you believe #3 is LUCKy.

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    I do realize GUYS that LUCK has a big part in IT--

    What LOST posted above was EXACTLY waht everyone was DOING--

    Betting the 8 Numbers around the SPIN HEAVY and then HEDGING other NUMBERS to break even--


    The ball kept HITTING the 8 numbers in the Area that we are all betting heavier--

    I will continue the STORY of the Morning SHIFT--

    I stayed all NIGHT and throughout the following morning because I was winning--
    New Dealers came on in the Morning, there was just a few people left in the casino at 7am---
    So now I had 2 new Dealers throwing the ball,

    One Asian lady throwing DID the exact OPPOSITE of what the dealers did last night She would throw the BALL at one end of the TABLE, and then the next SPIN would be the Exact opposite side of the wheel-
    She was COMPLETELY RANDOM-
    I thought fuck she is TRICKY, she did not THROW the ball near the last number-
    I noticed her doing this with PRECISION, so what i did was BET the numbers on the opposite side of the wheel and I HIT SOME numbers that way--

    Then an OLDER ASIAN Dealer, nice guy was DEALING and he would do the same thing as the Dealers last night- He was so PREDICTABLE--- His throws would be approximately 4 or 5 numbers away from the last NUMBER in the same section--

    I picked up on this and started hitting those numbers and winning more there-

    The ONLY ELEMENT I believe that is CONTROLLABLE is the HUMAN element of the DEALER throwing--

    Does anyone have any ideas why the dealers seem to land the ball closer to the last number at a higher CLIP than going opposite-

    Anyone heard of the REPEATING NUMBER system--

    THE REVERSE LABOUCHERIE SYSTEM is one that I will try now- Been researching it, its a VERY GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM in which you can HAVE 50% WINS and still make MONEY with this system--

    I cannot say anything is certain in ROULETTE, but the only EDGE we have is DEALERS SIGNATURE--

    If you throw the same PITCHES  over and OVER the HITTERS will hit HOME RUNS OFF YOU--

    If you throw the ROULETTE BALL the same SPEED and the BALL seems to land in the same SPOT, players will take advantage by betting on those numbers--

    Also I thought PERHAPS the wheel is CROOKED or not 100% straight----

    I wondered if there is a VALID REASON why certain numbers seem to come up more?
    I mean the Number is PAINTED On the wheel, so it is basically a POSITION on the wheel--

    There is a STUDY OF NUMEROLOGY, which attempts to say there are LUCKY numbers and so forth-
    BUt Numerology could be nothing more than Selection BIAS CONFIRMATION-
    WHere you believe something is LUCKY OR TRUE then you acccept any EVIDENCE of that fact--

    Ex- You believe #3 is LUCKY and while driving you see a guy wearing a JEREy with # 3 on it--
    Then you believe #3 is LUCKy.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:32 PM ET #38

    BULLSHIT
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:34 PM ET #39


    My advice to ANYONE is when they have TIME is to go to the CASINO and JUST WATCH-- DONT EVEN BET--

    I can TELL YOU that on the SCREEN that shows the last 25 Numbers that you WILL See likely 2 numbers that CAME UP TWICE--

    Also look at the NUMBERS and look at the POSITION on the wheel, if you NOTICE they are all near each other the DEALER is predictable--

    Roulette IMO would be truly Random if a RANDOM generator was USEd or a MACHINE was throwing the BALL--

    If humans can PERFECT other games of SKILL and be good at throwing objects like footballs, baseballs, frisbeys with good accuracy do you think they could not do the same in roulette--

    I require a LEGIT explanation on why it happens?

    Is it 100% LUCK-- Is the wheel CROOKED? Is it just COINCIDENCE?
    OR is it something MORE?


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    My advice to ANYONE is when they have TIME is to go to the CASINO and JUST WATCH-- DONT EVEN BET--

    I can TELL YOU that on the SCREEN that shows the last 25 Numbers that you WILL See likely 2 numbers that CAME UP TWICE--

    Also look at the NUMBERS and look at the POSITION on the wheel, if you NOTICE they are all near each other the DEALER is predictable--

    Roulette IMO would be truly Random if a RANDOM generator was USEd or a MACHINE was throwing the BALL--

    If humans can PERFECT other games of SKILL and be good at throwing objects like footballs, baseballs, frisbeys with good accuracy do you think they could not do the same in roulette--

    I require a LEGIT explanation on why it happens?

    Is it 100% LUCK-- Is the wheel CROOKED? Is it just COINCIDENCE?
    OR is it something MORE?


     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:34 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:



    The Bosses came in and were SPINNING the ball really FAST and tHEN REALLY SLOW--

    It seemed to change up the table and the HIGH ROLLERS left at that POINT up huge money--

    I left also at that point as the Bosses brought bad karma and a bad attitude to the table--

    All together I cashed out $2300 on the NIGHT--

    It was amazing, but waht I learned was THIS--

    gambling is STREAKY-- NEVER EVER BET vs a STREAK--

    GO WITH THE STREAKS, if something is WORKING DONT CHANGE IT--


    I will admit that I have never played Roulette but the odds are 35 to 1?  You start with $100 where most of the night you are winning  and you cashed out $2300?  You didnt think about betting more after this hot streak started?

    Other then that this story seems very believable.

    Don’t tell me the law. Tell me the judge.
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    The Bosses came in and were SPINNING the ball really FAST and tHEN REALLY SLOW--

    It seemed to change up the table and the HIGH ROLLERS left at that POINT up huge money--

    I left also at that point as the Bosses brought bad karma and a bad attitude to the table--

    All together I cashed out $2300 on the NIGHT--

    It was amazing, but waht I learned was THIS--

    gambling is STREAKY-- NEVER EVER BET vs a STREAK--

    GO WITH THE STREAKS, if something is WORKING DONT CHANGE IT--


    I will admit that I have never played Roulette but the odds are 35 to 1?  You start with $100 where most of the night you are winning  and you cashed out $2300?  You didnt think about betting more after this hot streak started?

    Other then that this story seems very believable.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:35 PM ET #41

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    BULLSHIT



    Can you help us out My FRIEND, we could use some EXPERTISE on the matter?

    DO you have anything productive to contribute?
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    BULLSHIT



    Can you help us out My FRIEND, we could use some EXPERTISE on the matter?

    DO you have anything productive to contribute?
     
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    BULLSHIT
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    BEN HOGAN i cashed out $20 of CHIPS on initial BUY IN-

    I didnt win every single SPIN my friend,

    I also didnt think the winning would go on for hours and hours--

    I was thinking okay I won a bit, but it will even out and the dealers will start throwing out bad numbers--

    I think winning 120 TIMES your money on $20 BUY in is pretty good?

    I have not went back because I was there for 15 hours straight and was tired last night-
    Also I am a smart gambler and know its not the place where you want to go every day--

    I will go AGAIN, but you cant RUSH these things and go back right away-
    The casino will not run away--
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    BEN HOGAN i cashed out $20 of CHIPS on initial BUY IN-

    I didnt win every single SPIN my friend,

    I also didnt think the winning would go on for hours and hours--

    I was thinking okay I won a bit, but it will even out and the dealers will start throwing out bad numbers--

    I think winning 120 TIMES your money on $20 BUY in is pretty good?

    I have not went back because I was there for 15 hours straight and was tired last night-
    Also I am a smart gambler and know its not the place where you want to go every day--

    I will go AGAIN, but you cant RUSH these things and go back right away-
    The casino will not run away--
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:




    Can you help us out My FRIEND, we could use some EXPERTISE on the matter?

    DO you have anything productive to contribute?

    Do you?

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    Can you help us out My FRIEND, we could use some EXPERTISE on the matter?

    DO you have anything productive to contribute?

    Do you?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2010 - 7:43 PM ET #45


    Casino Gambling seems to be to me VERY STREAKY and very ONE SIDED--

    You see people DOWN a lot or UP-- Usually they are DOWN more because people CHASE and when People WIN they dont DOUBLE Up-----

    The REVERSE LABOUCHERIE SYSTEM for EX is a system to MAXIMIZE WINS and LOSE A SET AMOUNT--

    It was a system that Norman Used to CLEAN out European casinos and was deported out of the COuntry-- I cannot confirm this because I was not there--

    I am going to try this SYSTEM and see for myself if I WALK out with ANY MONEY out of the casino--

    the HIGH ROLLERS know the players like batters know pitchers-
    One HIGH ROLLER was DEMANDING a certain DEALER SPIN THE BALL, and was yelling like a COACH getting a TECHNICAL FOUL-
    He was flipping out to call TONY to DEAL--

    Everyone should just CHECK this out for themselves, just WATCH and report back and see if you GET what i am talking about.
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    Casino Gambling seems to be to me VERY STREAKY and very ONE SIDED--

    You see people DOWN a lot or UP-- Usually they are DOWN more because people CHASE and when People WIN they dont DOUBLE Up-----

    The REVERSE LABOUCHERIE SYSTEM for EX is a system to MAXIMIZE WINS and LOSE A SET AMOUNT--

    It was a system that Norman Used to CLEAN out European casinos and was deported out of the COuntry-- I cannot confirm this because I was not there--

    I am going to try this SYSTEM and see for myself if I WALK out with ANY MONEY out of the casino--

    the HIGH ROLLERS know the players like batters know pitchers-
    One HIGH ROLLER was DEMANDING a certain DEALER SPIN THE BALL, and was yelling like a COACH getting a TECHNICAL FOUL-
    He was flipping out to call TONY to DEAL--

    Everyone should just CHECK this out for themselves, just WATCH and report back and see if you GET what i am talking about.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by revengeissweet1:

    Do you?




    YES I DO, i am trying to ENCOURAGE people who MIGHT PLAY ROULETTE or know about CASINO BETTING to see if they ALSO see this--

    End of day trying to GET better and help each other make MONEY-

    Unlike coming in and wasting space in peoples threads--
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    YES I DO, i am trying to ENCOURAGE people who MIGHT PLAY ROULETTE or know about CASINO BETTING to see if they ALSO see this--

    End of day trying to GET better and help each other make MONEY-

    Unlike coming in and wasting space in peoples threads--
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Meatballs:




    YES I DO, i am trying to ENCOURAGE people who MIGHT PLAY ROULETTE or know about CASINO BETTING to see if they ALSO see this--

    End of day trying to GET better and help each other make MONEY-

    Unlike coming in and wasting space in peoples threads--

    If you're looking for help, you're going about the wrong way - People are mocking you.  80% of the thread is.  Your stories ar elaughable, if you need help, a story is not needed

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    YES I DO, i am trying to ENCOURAGE people who MIGHT PLAY ROULETTE or know about CASINO BETTING to see if they ALSO see this--

    End of day trying to GET better and help each other make MONEY-

    Unlike coming in and wasting space in peoples threads--

    If you're looking for help, you're going about the wrong way - People are mocking you.  80% of the thread is.  Your stories ar elaughable, if you need help, a story is not needed

     
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    BTW I don't care what ANYONE says because I agree 95% of people lose in the CASINOS--

    But with some PATIENCE and MONEY MANAGEMENT and SKILLS I want to be one of the 5% who WINS some MONEY--

    listening to all the NAYSAYERS and HATERS who say you cant WIN will take you NOWHERE FAST--


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    BTW I don't care what ANYONE says because I agree 95% of people lose in the CASINOS--

    But with some PATIENCE and MONEY MANAGEMENT and SKILLS I want to be one of the 5% who WINS some MONEY--

    listening to all the NAYSAYERS and HATERS who say you cant WIN will take you NOWHERE FAST--


     
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    good story 
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    I wish I had those 10 mins of my life back. 
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