We are betting against the house we are not taking your money. Making you bet. Making you even be here in the forum. Wtf man wtf is wrong with u. I tried to be cool about it and get u to shut the app down lol but u really have some serious issues u need to deal with. Anyone who has gambling problem isn’t on any of us. We aren’t taking from you or forcing you to do a damn thing. I realize now your one of those guys who are looking for someone to blame because you couldn’t control yourself and has had a bad day experience with gambling. You need to look in the mirror and say all the stuff you’re saying. And have some self accountability man. I’m not going to comment anymore because I now see exactly what this is lol. I still wish u luck on realizing how wrong you are for this thread and hopefully u get some help because u have no control. Peace
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@GriLo
We are betting against the house we are not taking your money. Making you bet. Making you even be here in the forum. Wtf man wtf is wrong with u. I tried to be cool about it and get u to shut the app down lol but u really have some serious issues u need to deal with. Anyone who has gambling problem isn’t on any of us. We aren’t taking from you or forcing you to do a damn thing. I realize now your one of those guys who are looking for someone to blame because you couldn’t control yourself and has had a bad day experience with gambling. You need to look in the mirror and say all the stuff you’re saying. And have some self accountability man. I’m not going to comment anymore because I now see exactly what this is lol. I still wish u luck on realizing how wrong you are for this thread and hopefully u get some help because u have no control. Peace
Oh wow so that’s what it’s about I should’ve know from the start. So many people love to blame others for their stupid mistakes. It’s truly sad but that’s the world we live in. They have always been around but I find even more than ever there are a lot more of them lol.
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@MudPhud3
Oh wow so that’s what it’s about I should’ve know from the start. So many people love to blame others for their stupid mistakes. It’s truly sad but that’s the world we live in. They have always been around but I find even more than ever there are a lot more of them lol.
So after saying that now it’s time for u to close the book on this chapter and move on. It’s not for you sir. But where your wrong is all the comparisons you made about those of us who have been doing it for along time.
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@GriLo
So after saying that now it’s time for u to close the book on this chapter and move on. It’s not for you sir. But where your wrong is all the comparisons you made about those of us who have been doing it for along time.
Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
Uhhhh...
Last year I won 70+ units on NFL. 7 straight years winning similar amounts.
I lost 36 units this year.
I say this because your premise is incorrect. People can and do win betting. It is not a futile effort. It is actually easy to make money sportsbetting. Most people dont want to win.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
Uhhhh...
Last year I won 70+ units on NFL. 7 straight years winning similar amounts.
I lost 36 units this year.
I say this because your premise is incorrect. People can and do win betting. It is not a futile effort. It is actually easy to make money sportsbetting. Most people dont want to win.
@MiXaoLon I am not religious, but I am old and experienced enough to know that no one prospers in life with money from gambling or theft. This money usually exacts a very high price, whether in dollars or in mental/spiritual peace, family misfortunes, etc. Just look at how 80% of lottery winners will be poor after 10 years. Money can only prosper if you create value for other people, whether through your capital or your service.
What is prospering? Never having a job and being able to spend my whole life doing what I want with my family? No misfortunes, total peace, no high price paid here. My life has been miraculous because of gambling.
Classic "I cant win so nobody can win" routine here.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
@MiXaoLon I am not religious, but I am old and experienced enough to know that no one prospers in life with money from gambling or theft. This money usually exacts a very high price, whether in dollars or in mental/spiritual peace, family misfortunes, etc. Just look at how 80% of lottery winners will be poor after 10 years. Money can only prosper if you create value for other people, whether through your capital or your service.
What is prospering? Never having a job and being able to spend my whole life doing what I want with my family? No misfortunes, total peace, no high price paid here. My life has been miraculous because of gambling.
Classic "I cant win so nobody can win" routine here.
lol i think it’s a lost cause vanzack lol. I tried to break it down before you even seen it. But someone stated he made a large wager so now I get what it’s all about. Just someone looking for someone to blame for a dumb move they made. That’s all it’s about.
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@vanzack
lol i think it’s a lost cause vanzack lol. I tried to break it down before you even seen it. But someone stated he made a large wager so now I get what it’s all about. Just someone looking for someone to blame for a dumb move they made. That’s all it’s about.
@dertydude You see, people who make money gambling "for a while" are making that money at the expense of other people's suffering. Because for every dollar you make, there's someone else on the other side who's addicted and losing. So you're like a drug dealer who's profiting from other people's addiction. Anyway, I also gamble, I post my bets here on the forum, I'm just trying to explain to you how my view on gambling works. I'm aware today that every dollar I make here isn't mine, it's money I'll be donating to charity. The losses will go into my budget as "fun money."
Utterly ridiculous.
Every dollar you make anywhere could be labelled the same thing. Have a job at a corporation? Guess what... Someone paid too much for you products and you are benefitting.
Jeesh pal. Get a clue.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
@dertydude You see, people who make money gambling "for a while" are making that money at the expense of other people's suffering. Because for every dollar you make, there's someone else on the other side who's addicted and losing. So you're like a drug dealer who's profiting from other people's addiction. Anyway, I also gamble, I post my bets here on the forum, I'm just trying to explain to you how my view on gambling works. I'm aware today that every dollar I make here isn't mine, it's money I'll be donating to charity. The losses will go into my budget as "fun money."
Utterly ridiculous.
Every dollar you make anywhere could be labelled the same thing. Have a job at a corporation? Guess what... Someone paid too much for you products and you are benefitting.
Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
For the love of God, don't gamble because.I am pretty sure HE IS AGAINST IT.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
For the love of God, don't gamble because.I am pretty sure HE IS AGAINST IT.
@vanzack lol i think it’s a lost cause vanzack lol. I tried to break it down before you even seen it. But someone stated he made a large wager so now I get what it’s all about. Just someone looking for someone to blame for a dumb move they made. That’s all it’s about.
Its such a widespread flaw in human nature.
If you dont understand something that someone else is doing successfully: 99% will criticize, poke fun, troll. But only 1% will try to learn and replicate.
I have spent my life trying to learn from people smarter than me. That is why I post here at covers. When I see someone doing something successfully I always try to figure out how they do it. I am always confused by people who simply say it isnt possible or throw shade - but I have come to learn it is the majority - and I guess I should be thankful because they willfully become the losers so that winners can exist.
Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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Quote Originally Posted by dertydude:
@vanzack lol i think it’s a lost cause vanzack lol. I tried to break it down before you even seen it. But someone stated he made a large wager so now I get what it’s all about. Just someone looking for someone to blame for a dumb move they made. That’s all it’s about.
Its such a widespread flaw in human nature.
If you dont understand something that someone else is doing successfully: 99% will criticize, poke fun, troll. But only 1% will try to learn and replicate.
I have spent my life trying to learn from people smarter than me. That is why I post here at covers. When I see someone doing something successfully I always try to figure out how they do it. I am always confused by people who simply say it isnt possible or throw shade - but I have come to learn it is the majority - and I guess I should be thankful because they willfully become the losers so that winners can exist.
Bingo. Again bro we know what it’s all about now lol. He said u won lots of years so that means he wasn’t crapping on ya. But he 100% was and it’s bs. Dude needs to delete the thread and move on with his life. We’re thief’s and feeding people dope because we post our plays you can’t make this stuff up.
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@vanzack
Bingo. Again bro we know what it’s all about now lol. He said u won lots of years so that means he wasn’t crapping on ya. But he 100% was and it’s bs. Dude needs to delete the thread and move on with his life. We’re thief’s and feeding people dope because we post our plays you can’t make this stuff up.
Exactly brother. I usually don’t even read threads like this. But I had time today. And wanted to because he mentioned a name of someone who is a staple of this platform. And a proven winner. But it’s the world we live in and your right there are so many more than we can even imagine with the glitch that allows them to say stuff like this out loud lol. But if there were nothing but winners the casinos wouldn’t be a thing so we have to have them
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@vanzack
Exactly brother. I usually don’t even read threads like this. But I had time today. And wanted to because he mentioned a name of someone who is a staple of this platform. And a proven winner. But it’s the world we live in and your right there are so many more than we can even imagine with the glitch that allows them to say stuff like this out loud lol. But if there were nothing but winners the casinos wouldn’t be a thing so we have to have them
Oh wow u have to be kidding. This sob is really placing a bet today. I thought it was he lost his butt last week like one guy said. But this guy really has a thread on a game today. U really can’t make this shhh up. Such a dbag.
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@vanzack
Oh wow u have to be kidding. This sob is really placing a bet today. I thought it was he lost his butt last week like one guy said. But this guy really has a thread on a game today. U really can’t make this shhh up. Such a dbag.
@MiXaoLon I am not religious, but I am old and experienced enough to know that no one prospers in life with money from gambling or theft. This money usually exacts a very high price, whether in dollars or in mental/spiritual peace, family misfortunes, etc. Just look at how 80% of lottery winners will be poor after 10 years. Money can only prosper if you create value for other people, whether through your capital or your service.
U don't think that the gambling/lotto industry lends itself to a certain type of person who already has problems? It's not where the $ comes from thats to blame, it's the person who acquired it.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
@MiXaoLon I am not religious, but I am old and experienced enough to know that no one prospers in life with money from gambling or theft. This money usually exacts a very high price, whether in dollars or in mental/spiritual peace, family misfortunes, etc. Just look at how 80% of lottery winners will be poor after 10 years. Money can only prosper if you create value for other people, whether through your capital or your service.
U don't think that the gambling/lotto industry lends itself to a certain type of person who already has problems? It's not where the $ comes from thats to blame, it's the person who acquired it.
And the only thing that Van proved is some Sports Investors are man enough to admit when they are in a bad streak and can ride it out to play another day.
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And the only thing that Van proved is some Sports Investors are man enough to admit when they are in a bad streak and can ride it out to play another day.
@dertydude You see, people who make money gambling "for a while" are making that money at the expense of other people's suffering. Because for every dollar you make, there's someone else on the other side who's addicted and losing. So you're like a drug dealer who's profiting from other people's addiction. Anyway, I also gamble, I post my bets here on the forum, I'm just trying to explain to you how my view on gambling works. I'm aware today that every dollar I make here isn't mine, it's money I'll be donating to charity. The losses will go into my budget as "fun money."
LMAO is this a troll post? It’s working.
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Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:
@dertydude You see, people who make money gambling "for a while" are making that money at the expense of other people's suffering. Because for every dollar you make, there's someone else on the other side who's addicted and losing. So you're like a drug dealer who's profiting from other people's addiction. Anyway, I also gamble, I post my bets here on the forum, I'm just trying to explain to you how my view on gambling works. I'm aware today that every dollar I make here isn't mine, it's money I'll be donating to charity. The losses will go into my budget as "fun money."
@GriLo You make some solid points for sure. Am certain that lives have been destroyed over involvement with sports' betting. When humans gamble endorphins are released in our brains and these pleasurable feelings are addictive. Now that the NFL has partnered with the gambling industry the promotion of football wagering is at fever pitch. The fear of it creating and causing harm is real and legit IMO.
I guarantee alcohol has destroyed more lives than anything else in modern society. Are purveyors of alcohol in the same boat as thieves and gamblers?! Wild people would even post this nonsense on a gambling forum let alone call out vanzak.
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Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobob89074:
@GriLo You make some solid points for sure. Am certain that lives have been destroyed over involvement with sports' betting. When humans gamble endorphins are released in our brains and these pleasurable feelings are addictive. Now that the NFL has partnered with the gambling industry the promotion of football wagering is at fever pitch. The fear of it creating and causing harm is real and legit IMO.
I guarantee alcohol has destroyed more lives than anything else in modern society. Are purveyors of alcohol in the same boat as thieves and gamblers?! Wild people would even post this nonsense on a gambling forum let alone call out vanzak.
Agree Completely. If you are going to be successful betting you need to put a lot of work in - break things down, have a reason why A team beats B team etc. Just looking at lines, trying to figure out what the public is doing, etc. doesn't often give you the results CONSISTENTLY that you are looking for. It takes a lot of time and effort
@GriLo
I don't have a problem with a few things you said but I do have an issue with "In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work"
Either way bol to you
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@7272
Agree Completely. If you are going to be successful betting you need to put a lot of work in - break things down, have a reason why A team beats B team etc. Just looking at lines, trying to figure out what the public is doing, etc. doesn't often give you the results CONSISTENTLY that you are looking for. It takes a lot of time and effort
@GriLo
I don't have a problem with a few things you said but I do have an issue with "In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work"
Vanzack, you can cite numerous examples of criminals who live happy and healthy lives in their mansions, thanks to drug trafficking or theft. I really don't understand this, because this is what we see from the outside, we don't know the real reality.
I believe you are one of those guys who has possibly succeeded in this industry, 1 in a million, and yet you have returned a good part of it this year.
Anyway, if my 30 years of experience in gambling were not enough to convince you, listen to what the Mormons have to say. They have been studying the "evil of gambling" in society for 200 years and have the same vision as me. They have everything documented about what happens to people who try to make easy money without working/generating value for other human beings.
Everyone is addicted to gambling. But I try to be a controlled addict.
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@vanzack
Vanzack, you can cite numerous examples of criminals who live happy and healthy lives in their mansions, thanks to drug trafficking or theft. I really don't understand this, because this is what we see from the outside, we don't know the real reality.
I believe you are one of those guys who has possibly succeeded in this industry, 1 in a million, and yet you have returned a good part of it this year.
Anyway, if my 30 years of experience in gambling were not enough to convince you, listen to what the Mormons have to say. They have been studying the "evil of gambling" in society for 200 years and have the same vision as me. They have everything documented about what happens to people who try to make easy money without working/generating value for other human beings.
You are completely wrong. The greatest investor of all time, Warren Buffet, has already answered this question.
Stock investing pours trillions of dollars into companies in the American economy that will prosper, generate jobs and value for other human beings. Countries that do not have a sophisticated stock market like Africa cannot get investment to build anything or improve people's lives.
Now, if you say that “trading” in the stock market is like gambling, you are correct. That is why the number of winners in long-term trading is as small as the number of bets.
Everyone is addicted to gambling. But I try to be a controlled addict.
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@KeyMaster
You are completely wrong. The greatest investor of all time, Warren Buffet, has already answered this question.
Stock investing pours trillions of dollars into companies in the American economy that will prosper, generate jobs and value for other human beings. Countries that do not have a sophisticated stock market like Africa cannot get investment to build anything or improve people's lives.
Now, if you say that “trading” in the stock market is like gambling, you are correct. That is why the number of winners in long-term trading is as small as the number of bets.
we are not taking your money. Making you bet. Making you even be here in the forum. Wtf man wtf is wrong with u. I tried to be cool about it and get u to shut the app down lol but u really have some serious issues u need to deal with. Anyone who has gambling problem isn’t on any of us. We aren’t taking from you or forcing you to do a damn thing. I realize now your one of those guys who are looking for someone to blame because you couldn’t control yourself and has had a bad day experience with gambling. You need to look in the mirror and say all the stuff you’re saying. And have some self accountability man. I’m not going to comment anymore because I now see exactly what this is lol. I still wish u luck on realizing how wrong you are for this thread and hopefully u get some help because u have no control. Peace 
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