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    What happend to pointsrator ??

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:07 PM ET #1

    I cant find him  and his  system is pretty cool
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    I cant find him  and his  system is pretty cool
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:12 PM ET #2

    I was wondering the same thing.  I think he was on to something.
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    I was wondering the same thing.  I think he was on to something.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:34 PM ET #3

    He posted this on page 7:


    "I notice everyone on here is getting NEGATIVE. Whatever Vegas comes up with or whatever you want to call them. I can find the solution. You guys think i'm worried? I'm not. 

    To the above post.

    I personally TESTED NFL WEEK 17 2014-2015 myself and and with both method. I got 11-4-0. 79%; 15 plays from 16 games.

    Yes, favorites were 5-1-0 that day. 

    6-3 (67%) with the UNDERDOG METHOD with a possible 7-3 (70%) if i added the method 3 to the (PANTHERS VS FALCONS) game.  

    I DON'T surround myself with NEGATIVE PEOPLE. I KEEP SOLUTION DRIVEN PEOPLE AROUND ME. 

    With that said, i'm going to ask Cover.com to remove the thread.

    I will add the mods needed and stay away from all this NEGATIVE energy. I asked 3 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS from the begin of this thread because i know what needs to be added. No one has answered, all promises. 

    It makes no sense, anymore.

    One love!"
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    He posted this on page 7:


    "I notice everyone on here is getting NEGATIVE. Whatever Vegas comes up with or whatever you want to call them. I can find the solution. You guys think i'm worried? I'm not. 

    To the above post.

    I personally TESTED NFL WEEK 17 2014-2015 myself and and with both method. I got 11-4-0. 79%; 15 plays from 16 games.

    Yes, favorites were 5-1-0 that day. 

    6-3 (67%) with the UNDERDOG METHOD with a possible 7-3 (70%) if i added the method 3 to the (PANTHERS VS FALCONS) game.  

    I DON'T surround myself with NEGATIVE PEOPLE. I KEEP SOLUTION DRIVEN PEOPLE AROUND ME. 

    With that said, i'm going to ask Cover.com to remove the thread.

    I will add the mods needed and stay away from all this NEGATIVE energy. I asked 3 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS from the begin of this thread because i know what needs to be added. No one has answered, all promises. 

    It makes no sense, anymore.

    One love!"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:38 PM ET #4

    He seemed very impatient and a bit immature... I told him I would try to answer his questions but it would take some time (the work to figure it out is very time consuming). I know at least a couple other people offered to help too. After only two days he posted this above and closed the thread...
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    He seemed very impatient and a bit immature... I told him I would try to answer his questions but it would take some time (the work to figure it out is very time consuming). I know at least a couple other people offered to help too. After only two days he posted this above and closed the thread...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:38 PM ET #5

    There's a search function that works fairly well.   You can find him with a tiny bit of effort.
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    There's a search function that works fairly well.   You can find him with a tiny bit of effort.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:46 PM ET #6

    I think he may have refreshed on his own thread too much
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    I think he may have refreshed on his own thread too much
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:52 PM ET #7

    I don't think anyone really understood what he was doing, it seemed very convoluted but who really knows.  He obviously quite impatient with a very short fuse and can't take any kind of criticism.  Not a good combination if you're going to be doing this type of hobby.

    If any system is truly making money, people will follow and be supportive.  If not then they won't.

    He is the one who quit.
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    I don't think anyone really understood what he was doing, it seemed very convoluted but who really knows.  He obviously quite impatient with a very short fuse and can't take any kind of criticism.  Not a good combination if you're going to be doing this type of hobby.

    If any system is truly making money, people will follow and be supportive.  If not then they won't.

    He is the one who quit.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:53 PM ET #8

    Theres still 3 days until kick off... Thats a life time to work with to back test... Even if you did it with a pen and paper... Negativity will always be present.. Especially with so many different opinions all at the same time... There were tons of solution driven people in his thread which i found rather suprising... I have no idea what he's talking about... 
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    Theres still 3 days until kick off... Thats a life time to work with to back test... Even if you did it with a pen and paper... Negativity will always be present.. Especially with so many different opinions all at the same time... There were tons of solution driven people in his thread which i found rather suprising... I have no idea what he's talking about... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 8:57 PM ET #9

    is anyone following the plays for this week?

    system looks legit thus far.

    I just can't get myself to bet on the top 7 power ranked teams week after week, they've been good through 5 weeks but what are the chances they keep it up.

    either way - I'll take a shot this weekend and let's see how it goes.

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    is anyone following the plays for this week?

    system looks legit thus far.

    I just can't get myself to bet on the top 7 power ranked teams week after week, they've been good through 5 weeks but what are the chances they keep it up.

    either way - I'll take a shot this weekend and let's see how it goes.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:08 PM ET #10

     There are 3 players that i would never bet against in most cases in these spots... These 3 in particular has the ability to lift the entire league... Better known as front runners.... The only time that i would bet against them are in certain spots or if they are going against each other... Most of you already know lol
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     There are 3 players that i would never bet against in most cases in these spots... These 3 in particular has the ability to lift the entire league... Better known as front runners.... The only time that i would bet against them are in certain spots or if they are going against each other... Most of you already know lol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:11 PM ET #11

    I think the poster : FadeorRide or FadeorDie  pissed him off last night with something like : "... you can go 1-10 this week and 1-10 next week ,eventually you will break even ..." 

    his request to remove his own thread is here: : https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=17&sub=102175815
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    I think the poster : FadeorRide or FadeorDie  pissed him off last night with something like : "... you can go 1-10 this week and 1-10 next week ,eventually you will break even ..." 

    his request to remove his own thread is here: : https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=17&sub=102175815
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:11 PM ET #12

    Dallas is a lock against the Giants.....
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    Dallas is a lock against the Giants.....
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:11 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    is anyone following the plays for this week?

    system looks legit thus far.

    I just can't get myself to bet on the top 7 power ranked teams week after week, they've been good through 5 weeks but what are the chances they keep it up.

    either way - I'll take a shot this weekend and let's see how it goes.

    Blindly betting the top 7 power ranked teams every week isn't the system so if you do, that's at your own risk.  (don't do it for your money's sake).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    is anyone following the plays for this week?

    system looks legit thus far.

    I just can't get myself to bet on the top 7 power ranked teams week after week, they've been good through 5 weeks but what are the chances they keep it up.

    either way - I'll take a shot this weekend and let's see how it goes.

    Blindly betting the top 7 power ranked teams every week isn't the system so if you do, that's at your own risk.  (don't do it for your money's sake).

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:16 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

     There are 3 players that i would never bet against in most cases in these spots... These 3 in particular has the ability to lift the entire league... Better known as front runners.... The only time that i would bet against them are in certain spots or if they are going against each other... Most of you already know lol

    We're talking Brady, Rogers and who's the 3rd? Manning? I saw your post in regards to taking the unders in their game (opposite of last year)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

     There are 3 players that i would never bet against in most cases in these spots... These 3 in particular has the ability to lift the entire league... Better known as front runners.... The only time that i would bet against them are in certain spots or if they are going against each other... Most of you already know lol

    We're talking Brady, Rogers and who's the 3rd? Manning? I saw your post in regards to taking the unders in their game (opposite of last year)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:17 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    Dallas is a lock against the Giants.....

    BC of the QB change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    Dallas is a lock against the Giants.....

    BC of the QB change?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:27 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

    Blindly betting the top 7 power ranked teams every week isn't the system so if you do, that's at your own risk.  (don't do it for your money's sake).


    But that's exactly what the system does to determine which favorites to bet. If you're following the system then you will be doing that plus betting his "UNDERDOG" selections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naesiy:

    Blindly betting the top 7 power ranked teams every week isn't the system so if you do, that's at your own risk.  (don't do it for your money's sake).


    But that's exactly what the system does to determine which favorites to bet. If you're following the system then you will be doing that plus betting his "UNDERDOG" selections.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:32 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNight:


    But that's exactly what the system does to determine which favorites to bet. If you're following the system then you will be doing that plus betting his "UNDERDOG" selections.

    Exactly. The spent a good chunk of my morning today reading Points Rator entire thread before it was deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNight:


    But that's exactly what the system does to determine which favorites to bet. If you're following the system then you will be doing that plus betting his "UNDERDOG" selections.

    Exactly. The spent a good chunk of my morning today reading Points Rator entire thread before it was deleted.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:33 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    BC of the QB change?


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    BC of the QB change?


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:36 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    Exactly. The spent a good chunk of my morning today reading Points Rator entire thread before it was deleted.


    It's still there it just doesn't show up in the list of threads on the forum anymore:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=102171398&page=8
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    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    Exactly. The spent a good chunk of my morning today reading Points Rator entire thread before it was deleted.


    It's still there it just doesn't show up in the list of threads on the forum anymore:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=102171398&page=8
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:38 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    We're talking Brady, Rogers and who's the 3rd? Manning? I saw your post in regards to taking the unders in their game (opposite of last year)


    You got it.... And make no mistake its no coincidence... If the big three always covers and the game goes over... There no incentive to book anymore,, the house would be broke... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BallingLikeNE:

    We're talking Brady, Rogers and who's the 3rd? Manning? I saw your post in regards to taking the unders in their game (opposite of last year)


    You got it.... And make no mistake its no coincidence... If the big three always covers and the game goes over... There no incentive to book anymore,, the house would be broke... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:41 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 

    714 says wasup lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 

    714 says wasup lol

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 9:46 PM ET #22

    The best times to bet the overs is if one of the big 3 loses a game and the game goes under... That's when everyone tends to bet against them.. And off they go over by themselves.. If yes its been opposite... But i think more overs will happen the second half of the year... 
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    The best times to bet the overs is if one of the big 3 loses a game and the game goes under... That's when everyone tends to bet against them.. And off they go over by themselves.. If yes its been opposite... But i think more overs will happen the second half of the year... 
     
    HoldingXYZ
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 10:03 PM ET #23

    If OP doesnt show up ever again... All i can say is its a good starting point for new comers that want to be a handicapper... It gave me some perspective... ... But without going through the work yourself.. You will never learn... Because someday,, like others have mentioned,, it can regress... theres certain spots that i see all the time with dogs as well but most importantly is being able to tweak it all the way... 

    For instance,, certain teams that backdoor covers against another team,, the following week a certain side would cover 80% of the time and the total would go way over... Then the following week it switches over to the opposite whether it be from road to home,, or home to road,, favorite or dog or dog to favorite... What OP mentioned litterally takes no time to figure out since he only needs 3 years... I go back as far as 6 years with my data... And all i can say is,, these trends are everywhere,,, ive seen as high as 100% in 6 years but also seen it break ,, perfect example this week,, TB always loses the game before a bye and they just beat Jax... 

    So yeah these trends are everywhere,, its more important to know the cycle of these trends than the trend itself...  
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    If OP doesnt show up ever again... All i can say is its a good starting point for new comers that want to be a handicapper... It gave me some perspective... ... But without going through the work yourself.. You will never learn... Because someday,, like others have mentioned,, it can regress... theres certain spots that i see all the time with dogs as well but most importantly is being able to tweak it all the way... 

    For instance,, certain teams that backdoor covers against another team,, the following week a certain side would cover 80% of the time and the total would go way over... Then the following week it switches over to the opposite whether it be from road to home,, or home to road,, favorite or dog or dog to favorite... What OP mentioned litterally takes no time to figure out since he only needs 3 years... I go back as far as 6 years with my data... And all i can say is,, these trends are everywhere,,, ive seen as high as 100% in 6 years but also seen it break ,, perfect example this week,, TB always loses the game before a bye and they just beat Jax... 

    So yeah these trends are everywhere,, its more important to know the cycle of these trends than the trend itself...  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 10:05 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 

    Week 6 is a Bye Week for Dallas, Oakland, St. Louis, Tampa Bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:


    because 

    1. Dallas will be the dog

    2. according to OP they have scored 6 home points fewer than any team for that week..

    3. Im riding this divisional road train... 

    4.. i could find more reason but how many do we need... 

    Week 6 is a Bye Week for Dallas, Oakland, St. Louis, Tampa Bay.

     
     
    Second2-Numbers
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2015 - 10:19 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNight:


    It's still there it just doesn't show up in the list of threads on the forum anymore:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=102171398&page=8

    Thanks , my friend ( for the link ) 

    So It's not only fadeordie, but Funkfreaker and Holding XYZ ...get to his ( thin ) skin !

    Now, because of this method/system ...I will become a " action junkie " in the next 3-4 wks !  betting more than 5 games on a single day ! ( Sun )  LOL...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaNight:


    It's still there it just doesn't show up in the list of threads on the forum anymore:

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=102171398&page=8

    Thanks , my friend ( for the link ) 

    So It's not only fadeordie, but Funkfreaker and Holding XYZ ...get to his ( thin ) skin !

    Now, because of this method/system ...I will become a " action junkie " in the next 3-4 wks !  betting more than 5 games on a single day ! ( Sun )  LOL...
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