wow, i agree with the chance,,, im fkn losing it... i know excatly what thread/post u are talkin about... can u belive all the clowns/kizz azz's that said she did the right thing... i hate those fools so whats up?
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wow, i agree with the chance,,, im fkn losing it... i know excatly what thread/post u are talkin about... can u belive all the clowns/kizz azz's that said she did the right thing... i hate those fools so whats up?
This is Tiffany initial post explaining her actions at the wsop:
I'd like to say THANK YOU to everyone who has taken the time to write me. I'm absolutely flattered by the love, attention, kind words and support that I've been showed.
Of course there will always be haters and I have been appalled at some of the nasty messages I've received from complete strangers who I've never had a conversation with a day in my life. They somehow feel it is their place to judge me based on four episodes of POKER television. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I truly am sorry if watching me on TV rubbed anyone the wrong way. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to weed through the editing and TV screen and see the real time and real scenarios in which my words and actions occurred. Furthermore, if you don't personally know me and you may not understand my joking and sarcastic personality at the tables where I'm just having some fun and harmless banter with the boys. Before you judge remember that you saw 7 EDITED TV hours of a tournament that I played for an entire week and close to 100 hours of time. I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.
It's obvious that by being a woman in a male dominated field/sport I will come under ten times more scrutiny than the man sitting next to me. There were so many comments and behaviors by other players that I observed in watching the WSOP coverage that make some of my comments which have received harsh criticism... laughable. It's unfair that I am being held to a different standard than my fellow male players but HEY, life isn't fair, poker sure as hell is not and as the minority in this industry I just have to accept that as status quo.
At the end of the day poker is a competition. Everyone is trying to win. There are bound to be squabbles in the midst of the game but that doesn't mean that off the felt that player isn't a kind and good person. Kobe Bryant is sure to foul someone while running the court trying to make and block a basket. Wayne Gretzky has his share of penalties and body checks. Every word and action is heightened in the midst of an intense competition where the goal is to BEAT the other player. Emotions run high and frustration can inevitably lead to arguments and moments of losing your 'cool' and sanity. Not to mention the huge psychological factor that is present specifically in the game of poker, which induces words and actions that someone would never implement in their daily life.
No, I am not a dainty little girl who is prim and proper. I never have been. I was never the kid who wanted to go play with Barbies with the other girls, you'd more readily find me racing with and playing sports with the boys. I love competition! You won't find me at a poker table batting my lashes and blowing kisses to the other players. I am a young woman with a little spice and attitude who isn't afraid to jump into a male dominated game that involves aggression, psychology, and mathematics (These very charictaristics of the game aren't usually synonomous with being 'lady-like' or a woman) and battle it out with the boys.
I had an amazing time in the WSOP Main Event. I hope that every poker player gets to experience a high in their career like THAT! I have nothing but respect and good will toward each player that I played with and got to know during that week. I feel a special bond with the players who also made it deep in the Main Event and am excited to see them around, give them a hug and hear how their game is going. I know I can't make everyone happy. Not everyone will understand my GAME and if you make a habit of judging people based on what you hear in the media and see on TV then I guess you'll spend most of your life making bad reads. I can assure you that if we ever meet in person I WILL give you the time of day, I WILL be more than happy to talk with you, I WILL bond with you over our love and frustration with the game of poker, I WILL treat you with kindness and respect... and yes, maybe even harass you a little for playing 6-7 to a raise... even if it was SUITED!!
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This is Tiffany initial post explaining her actions at the wsop:
I'd like to say THANK YOU to everyone who has taken the time to write me. I'm absolutely flattered by the love, attention, kind words and support that I've been showed.
Of course there will always be haters and I have been appalled at some of the nasty messages I've received from complete strangers who I've never had a conversation with a day in my life. They somehow feel it is their place to judge me based on four episodes of POKER television. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I truly am sorry if watching me on TV rubbed anyone the wrong way. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to weed through the editing and TV screen and see the real time and real scenarios in which my words and actions occurred. Furthermore, if you don't personally know me and you may not understand my joking and sarcastic personality at the tables where I'm just having some fun and harmless banter with the boys. Before you judge remember that you saw 7 EDITED TV hours of a tournament that I played for an entire week and close to 100 hours of time. I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.
It's obvious that by being a woman in a male dominated field/sport I will come under ten times more scrutiny than the man sitting next to me. There were so many comments and behaviors by other players that I observed in watching the WSOP coverage that make some of my comments which have received harsh criticism... laughable. It's unfair that I am being held to a different standard than my fellow male players but HEY, life isn't fair, poker sure as hell is not and as the minority in this industry I just have to accept that as status quo.
At the end of the day poker is a competition. Everyone is trying to win. There are bound to be squabbles in the midst of the game but that doesn't mean that off the felt that player isn't a kind and good person. Kobe Bryant is sure to foul someone while running the court trying to make and block a basket. Wayne Gretzky has his share of penalties and body checks. Every word and action is heightened in the midst of an intense competition where the goal is to BEAT the other player. Emotions run high and frustration can inevitably lead to arguments and moments of losing your 'cool' and sanity. Not to mention the huge psychological factor that is present specifically in the game of poker, which induces words and actions that someone would never implement in their daily life.
No, I am not a dainty little girl who is prim and proper. I never have been. I was never the kid who wanted to go play with Barbies with the other girls, you'd more readily find me racing with and playing sports with the boys. I love competition! You won't find me at a poker table batting my lashes and blowing kisses to the other players. I am a young woman with a little spice and attitude who isn't afraid to jump into a male dominated game that involves aggression, psychology, and mathematics (These very charictaristics of the game aren't usually synonomous with being 'lady-like' or a woman) and battle it out with the boys.
I had an amazing time in the WSOP Main Event. I hope that every poker player gets to experience a high in their career like THAT! I have nothing but respect and good will toward each player that I played with and got to know during that week. I feel a special bond with the players who also made it deep in the Main Event and am excited to see them around, give them a hug and hear how their game is going. I know I can't make everyone happy. Not everyone will understand my GAME and if you make a habit of judging people based on what you hear in the media and see on TV then I guess you'll spend most of your life making bad reads. I can assure you that if we ever meet in person I WILL give you the time of day, I WILL be more than happy to talk with you, I WILL bond with you over our love and frustration with the game of poker, I WILL treat you with kindness and respect... and yes, maybe even harass you a little for playing 6-7 to a raise... even if it was SUITED!!
Then after taking some heat in all the responses she was getting basically calling her out she responded :
First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.
Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.
Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
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Then after taking some heat in all the responses she was getting basically calling her out she responded :
First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.
Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.
Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
And here is the legendary response from "Craig" himself :
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
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And here is the legendary response from "Craig" himself :
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
Here is her response to Craig's response and her "goodbye" to the thread after she realized she was getting hammered:
Wow, well that's too bad. Sorry about that. It seemed to me that myself and the other players at the table were having a good laugh at it all but I guess under those circumstances people take everything too seriously.
Obviously my attempt to do clear some things up and do good didn't matter... so I'll peace outta this forum boys. Best of luck at the final table Craig, I've said nothing but good things about you in all my interviews and wish you well! xx
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Here is her response to Craig's response and her "goodbye" to the thread after she realized she was getting hammered:
Wow, well that's too bad. Sorry about that. It seemed to me that myself and the other players at the table were having a good laugh at it all but I guess under those circumstances people take everything too seriously.
Obviously my attempt to do clear some things up and do good didn't matter... so I'll peace outta this forum boys. Best of luck at the final table Craig, I've said nothing but good things about you in all my interviews and wish you well! xx
And here is the legendary response from "Craig" himself :
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
This sums the whole thing up. End of story "Tiff".
Unfortunately, she's in show business and knows how to work it. She wants to become the poker "bitch" alongside Helmuth as the "brat". It seems to be working. And we all know that the tabloid sports channel known as ESPN will eat this shit up. Sad.
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Quote Originally Posted by ChanceP:
And here is the legendary response from "Craig" himself :
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
This sums the whole thing up. End of story "Tiff".
Unfortunately, she's in show business and knows how to work it. She wants to become the poker "bitch" alongside Helmuth as the "brat". It seems to be working. And we all know that the tabloid sports channel known as ESPN will eat this shit up. Sad.
i TELL U ONE THING WHEN SHE CALLED TIME I WAS LIKE NO FUCKING WAY!! THIS IS THE WSOP! BITCH!!!!!!!A GUYS WHOLE STACK IS ON THE LINE AND U HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CALL TIME! F U!
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i TELL U ONE THING WHEN SHE CALLED TIME I WAS LIKE NO FUCKING WAY!! THIS IS THE WSOP! BITCH!!!!!!!A GUYS WHOLE STACK IS ON THE LINE AND U HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CALL TIME! F U!
i know excatly what thread/post u are talkin about... can u belive all the clowns/kizz azz's that said she did the right thing... i hate those fools so whats up?
At least this chick gave us something to talk about eh?
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